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OneDemsConscience Donating Member (47 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-23-08 12:12 PM
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Obama Is Not Associated With Ayers
And it's very frustrating to see the MSM spin the issue as if he was. Apparently the best they can do is point out that Obama visited the man's home in 1995.

The Wright issue is more legitimate because Obama is obviously associated with Wright, even though it remians a stretch to assume that this association somehow colors Obama's politics. But with Ayers, there is no association--the issue is plain bullshit. It's almost as if it was manufactured to insight righteous Americans into defending Ayers (and clearly he is not the bogeyman the Right makes him out to be)...but ultimately this can only hurt the progressive cause as it gives the Rethugs more opportunities to use the "T" word. I do a lot of driving for my job, so I tune into Hewitt and other Rethugs from time to time....and believe me they are distorting the Ayers thing as much as they can.

I realize what I'm saying is nothing new in these forums, but we have to do a better job of calling the media on their bullshit. Just today I read the normally excellent journalist John Judis making this claim (that such an association exists) in an article today....

http://www.tnr.com/politics/story.html?id=ec466d61-a900-414c-8daf-16ff27ccf85c

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patrice Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-23-08 12:15 PM
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1. Obama was invited to his home with a bunch of other community leaders.
That's something else the media is twisting; they're making it sound as though it was this personal event at Ayers's house.
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OneDemsConscience Donating Member (47 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-23-08 12:25 PM
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2. Cass Sunstein Explains It Succinctly
http://blogs.tnr.com/tnr/blogs/open_university/archive/2008/04/17/silly-season-ayers-obama-and-hyde-park.aspx

Silly Season: Ayers, Obama, and Hyde Park

Of the many ludicrous political discussions of the last six months, the most ludicrous may well be the discussion of the alleged association between Barack Obama and Bill Ayers, former member of the Weather Underground.

Bill Ayers and his wife, Bernadine Dohrn, have lived in the Hyde Park area in Chicago. So has Barack Obama. (So have I.) If you lived in Hyde Park for (say) a decade, there was a good chance that you'd run across Ayers, and maybe even be at a social occasion with him. And if you were a social person, or someone who was running for political office, you would meet a lot of people, and it's pretty likely that you would run across Ayers, or be at some social occasion with him.

Ayers is one of numerous people, in the Chicago area, whom Barack Obama has run across. Obama has much closer relationships with numerous conservatives on the University of Chicago faculty, many of whom have given money to Obama's campaign, and many of whom have talked to him at length and been at social occasions with him.

I know for a fact that Obama has actually played basketball with Richard Epstein, a libertarian on the law school faculty who has written some pretty controversial things on property rights and government regulation. I also know that Obama has had a number of conversations with former law school dean Daniel Fischel, a Reagan Republican who has written some pretty controversial things on corporations and government regulation.

True, Ayers apparently had a small party for Obama back in 1995; true, Ayers gave some small sum of money to one of Obama's campaigns; and true, Ayers and Obama simultaneously served, for a time, on a board of a local organization, the Woods Fund, which helps disadvantaged children. But there was nothing even vaguely like a close relationship between them; and it would be easy to identify countless people, since 1995, with whom Obama has had much closer associations.

Of course many legitimate questions can be raised about any candidate for public office. But it is a gross understatement to say that the alleged Ayers-Obama association is not one of them.

--Cass Sunstein
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