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Nitrogenica Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-23-08 09:03 AM
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Hillary 54.3% Barack 45.7% Pennsylvania State Returns Page
http://www.electionreturns.state.pa.us/

8.6% win, not "double digits" as I've heard on CNN, Bill Press, and NBC so far this morning.

Why can't the media keep this real?
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NC_Nurse Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-23-08 09:03 AM
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1. Haven't you heard? They suck.
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ElsewheresDaughter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-23-08 09:04 AM
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2. cry baby
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TwilightGardener Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-23-08 09:05 AM
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3. She didn't get the margin she needed. WAHHH!!!!!
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Buzz Clik Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-23-08 09:12 AM
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Check out the tally. Obama still leads BIG.
Cue Elton John. Time to sing "Candle in the Wind" for Hillary.
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RememberWellstone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-23-08 09:06 AM
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4. Hillary won last night.
The sooner you put it behind you the better. She won by 8.0909524974227%, good for her! It makes even better when PPP said it would be much closer.
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guyanakoolaid Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-23-08 09:07 AM
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9. But even worse considering she lead recently by 20+ percent
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Texas Hill Country Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-23-08 09:09 AM
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15. too bad he has to spend 3 times what she did to do that... and lost 75-25 to people that WILL vote
for McCain in the GE if Obama is the nominee... (reagan dems)
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Nitrogenica Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-23-08 09:12 AM
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16. Nationwide?, or just in PA?
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guyanakoolaid Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-23-08 09:13 AM
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18. Those people aren't Dems to begin with.
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TLM Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-23-08 10:23 AM
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29. So you admit Hillary is being proped up by right wingers...


Or did you mean Hilldems admit there's little difference between mcsame and hillary.... so little they'd be OK voting for either one?
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RaleighNCDUer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-23-08 10:24 AM
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30. She would have spent as much as he
if she paid her bills.
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RaleighNCDUer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-23-08 10:20 AM
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28. Reminiscent of her fantastic comeback in NH
where she DROPPED 17 points to win by 3.
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Changenow Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-23-08 09:08 AM
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10. Would it matter to you if the lie
about the margin favored Obama? Or do you think fabrications should only be tolerated when they benefit Hillary.

Don't bother to answer.
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godai Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-23-08 09:08 AM
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12. Yes, and if this were a sporting event that might mean something.
She needs delegates (those are the Democratic rules) and she still trails by about 140. NC will cancel out PA and, if Obama wins Indiana, brace yourself....it's over.
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Buzz Clik Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-23-08 09:13 AM
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17. Try to grasp this: she didn't need a win. She needed a massive blowout.
It didn't happen.

She cannot win the nomination.
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krispos42 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-23-08 02:33 PM
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33. She didn't win enough
She gained, what, 12 pledged delegates when she's about 150 behind?

:shrug:

She's losing by a tiny bit less with 81.6% of the delegates allocated already.


In order to win the primaries, her personal victory percentage in the remaining states has to be well over 60%.
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Changenow Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-23-08 09:06 AM
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5. What if Clinton and the media had to tell the truth?
She would have been gone long ago.

This lie give her cover to pretend she has a chance, it's pathetic.
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City Lights Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-23-08 09:06 AM
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6. They never let facts get in the way of the "news" they report.
Why start now? They're still pretending that Hill won Texas. Hillary owes the media, big time. They've been keep her candidacy afloat for awhile now.
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MadBadger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-23-08 09:07 AM
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7. She didnt win by double digits, but she those numbers also are not correct
They overreported from Lancaster County. The real results with 99% in is 54.7-45.3
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Laura PourMeADrink Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-23-08 09:07 AM
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8. don't forget Provisional Ballots aren't in that, I don't think. nt
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NJmaverick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-23-08 09:08 AM
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11. This is the propaganda wing of the RNC and they want Hillary to keep going
They know she is doing more damage that even Rove could cause.
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mystieus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-23-08 09:08 AM
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13. 8.5%, which they'll round to 9%
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goclark Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-23-08 09:17 AM
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19. Where are the remaining votes coming from?
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Nitrogenica Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-23-08 09:09 AM
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14. Wow I seem to be attracting people I've ignored with this reality based post.
HA!!!

Hey, go cry to Joe Scarborough or Pat Robertson, they're on your side, iggies.

No cake for you!

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zulchzulu Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-23-08 09:19 AM
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20. 8.6 is now the new 10...it's the new math...
:crazy:

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GoldenOldie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-23-08 09:59 AM
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21. Those citing the 3 to 1 campaign costs of Obama
ignore the fact that the monies spent within each State ie., Pennsylvania, are the $5, 10, 20, dollars collected from individual Obama supporters with the full understanding that it will be used to support his campaign. Monies going to individual business's/workers and town treasuries within Pennsylvania....monies well spent, giving business to our fellow Americans. Obama's campaign pays their bills while Clinton campaign stops, promise jobs, education, etc., and leave town and those that provided services for their campaign in debt.....much like Georgie's war.

If Hillary Clinton and her advisor's with their years of "experience," and name/face recognition are incapable of managing and budgeting for a
campaign, what makes anyone think they are capable or even willing to clean up Georgie's mess???

Obama's supporters, many who personally sacrifice, just to send his campaign a $1.00 or $2.00, make this sacrifice because they believe "We the People," sacrifice for the good of all and our Nation. Those women who support Hillary simply because they "want to see a woman as POTUS before they die," are willing to sacrifice their children and grandchildren future and the future of our democracy......how ignoble and selfish of them. As a woman and an activist, I would love to see a woman as POTUS and I know that America has hundreds of women who are fully capable........Hillary in her campaign performances has proven she is not the woman.
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beachmom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-23-08 10:02 AM
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22. I think there is an error on that site. Lancaster Co. is not accurate.
The margin I think is 9.3 or 9.4% for Clinton.

I can't believe we have to fight decimal points today, but we do.
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4themind Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-23-08 10:04 AM
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23. Please edit
The return page has 54.6/ 45.4 now
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mystieus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-23-08 10:07 AM
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24. I notice.. odd when Obama is winning that last county.
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my3boyz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-23-08 10:08 AM
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25. Gov. Rendell probably made "the call". nt
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mod mom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-23-08 10:09 AM
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26. so 9.2 W/O Provisional ballots included.
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slinkerwink Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-23-08 10:11 AM
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27. latest totals show a 9.2 win
Edited on Wed Apr-23-08 10:11 AM by slinkerwink
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d.amber Donating Member (126 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-23-08 10:27 AM
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31. Some of the outstanding includes Philidelphia
Numbers are still coming in from Obama strongholds that are not reporting at 100% yet and so there maybe yet be a drop..no 10% win.
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Khaotic Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-23-08 02:19 PM
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32. Now at 54.6% to 45.4% ... no "D-O-U-B-L-E D-I-G-I-T" win!!!!
Still 52 districts yet to report.

If those Districts lean heavily Obama then her win will definately not be "DOUBLE DIGITS" even with rounding up for her number and down for Obama's number.

If it ends with Hillary=54.4% and Obama=45.6%, then I wonder if the MSM will acknowledge that Hillary DIDN'T achieve her HUGE double digit win.

For those Hillary supporters who think it doesn't matter ... I'll remind you that it's YOU'RE candidate who is underscoring the "double digit" win.

The MSM, in turn, followed that and is incestently hammering the double digit lie.

Since Hillary wants to focus on the double digit thing, we'll be here to do so.

Only biding by Hillary's wishes.
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