99% in and the lead is 8% and under under 195,000

[MattP]

http://www.electionreturns.state.pa.us/

[ruby slippers]

1. sad thing is......

if you click on some of the counties.....try McKean, Elk, Cameron, Potter, and Warren....where most of the deer-hunting, beer drinking people live (I know, I used to live in one of these counties) they voted OVERWHELMINGLY for John McCain anyway, so Hillary won't win these either......this is RED country, for sure!

http://www.electionreturns.state.pa.us/

[JackBeck]

2. It's closer to 8%, yet totally below 10%

But just wait for the spin tomorrow

[sandnsea]

3. Nightline called it a blow out

And had a 10 point spread. I turned it off.

[depakid]

10. It pretty much was a blowout

worse than I thought it would be.

Arguing about the spread doesn't change what happened in some several constituencies that went 75% to 25% or so.

That's not good if we're interested in winning in November. Plus: the opponent was Hillary Clinton!

And this was a primary.

[sandnsea]

12. The voters we actually NEED

Minorities, went 92-8 AGAINST Clinton. Why do a bunch of hicks matter to you more than our base?

[aquart]

22. What "minorities" are you talking about?

Or do you just mean ONE minority?

[Raine]

15. Publically they can spin it all they want

but Hillary KNOWS she didn't crack 10% so in private I bet she is not happy and is having fits.

[quantass]

4. sadly the MSM will not pick up on this...10% makes for more drama than the real value of 8%

[O.M.B.inOhio]

5. Inetersting: showings for Paul and Huckabee amazing for 1-candidate Rep. race.

http://www.electionreturns.state.pa.us/

[bluetrain]

8. The Freepers are in the same position we are this go round as far as having their candidate chosen

for them.

[stevenleser]

27. Ugh. Did you have to put it like THAT. LOL

Freepers...same ... as us...

:puke:

:rofl:

[ClayZ]

6. K and R

[NewHampshireDem]

7. I said it before and I'll say it again

1,000,000 votes for Barack Obama! Abso-fucking-lutely AMAZING! :toast:

[SunsetDreams]

24. yup :)

[TTUBatfan2008]

9. Philly still stuck on 97%...

been that way for hours. They must have called it a night earlier and stopped counting until later today.

[goclark]

25. Wow! That is good news

My cousin lives in Philly and he said the voter turn out was amazing and the dirty Rendell/Clinton tricks were in the mud.

[DerekJ]

11. *******ATTENTION**********

The discrepancy comes form Lancaster county.

Acording to the county website the count is:


Candidate Votes
Barack Obama 27126
Hillary Clinton 22710
Write-In 0
by District 49836

http://66.216.166.82/PubICE/default.asp?Category=VotesLC&Service=Totals&O=0845&Prty=Dem&Cat=F%20%20%20%20&ret=menu&rcat=F


Also :

Category=VotesLC&Service=result&offc=0845&bkg=USA_Flag&ele=P&Prty=Dem&LOP=D&da=Dem&cat=F&ret=menu&rcat=F

BUT..

The state website has it:

Candidate Votes Percent
OBAMA, BARACK (DEM)
40,628 64.1%
CLINTON, HILLARY (DEM)
22,710 35.9%


There is a discrepancy of 13K votes.

Unfortunately the country website looks more accurate :(

So it's probably 54.7H , 45.3 O

[4themind]

13. 54.62, according to my calculations,

[sandnsea]

14. I don't understand

The county has it 27126 for Obama. Why do you say the county has Hillary winning?

[DerekJ]

16. It doesn't say H is winning. IT does say O is winning. The problem is by how much?!

Did O win 27K votes or 40K votes?!

[sandnsea]

17. So it's probably 54.7H , 45.3 O

This. I don't get this.

[DerekJ]

18. Oh!! The difference in Lancaster county.

If the state count is right then O: is 45.7, H: 54.3 (Nationally across PA. Which means after rounding, H :54, O: 46 an 8 point lead not a 10 point one.

But if it's wrong, and the county website is right, then it stays as CNN is reporting it. H: 54.7 ( rounded to 55) , and O: 45.3 (rounded to 45%), Again Nationally across PA.

So, State website right, County website wrong, Hillary wins by 8 points (8.6% to be exact).
State website wrong, county website right, Hillary wins by 10 (9.4% to be exact.

It's most likely that the state website is wrong.

[sandnsea]

19. Ooooh, the state numbers, got it n/t

[4themind]

20. Also keep in mind, there's still some more left in philly, almost 1% of the precints

In a relatively well populated area, he may make up that difference

[PetraPooh]

21. It's 4am ET and two Philly areas are still at 97% on cnn, not 99%.

So there are even more than you have noted. Leaving more room for a change. But like in Texas, the MSM is likely going to keep repeating their totals without regard for any updated information, or even mentioning that there are votes yet counted.

[SunsetDreams]

23. kick

[goclark]

26. I still see 8.5

http://www.electionreturns.state.pa.us/ it is