lol. I just remembered, PA was a closed primary.

[anonymous171]

Goodnight DU.

[FrenchieCat]

1. And I believe the margin will be 8 pts after all.

Good Night!

[gort6]

3. 99% reporting. Clinton 55% Obama 45%

[scheming daemons]

4. Nope.... check the official PA state web site.... not CNN..... under 9% now....

...

[gateley]

9. Check the number of votes on the PA site

against the number of votes on the CNN site.

Hillary: 1,248,699
Obama: 1,034,383

I think the CNN site is updating more quickly.

http://www.cnn.com/ELECTION/2008/primaries/results/state/#PA

(I don't have the link to the PA sit anymore)

[Innocent Smith]

27. Yeah that is kind of weird

Both CNN and Fox have Hillary with more votes and Obama with less votes than is currently showing on the PA web site. CNN and Fox have the same numbers as each other - wonder where they are getting them?

[Yossariant]

11. Ya mean this "Official" site that says "UNofficial Returns"?

http://www.electionreturns.state.pa.us/ElectionsInformation.aspx?FunctionID=13&ElectionID=27&OfficeID=1

:crazy:

[ClassWarrior]

5. Do you trust your Corporate Media Overlords?

NGU.

[ingac70]

6. The state of Penn. has the actual results...

Not CNN LIES.

http://www.electionreturns.state.pa.us/

[gateley]

13. Actually the CNN site is more current --

compare the number of votes between the two sites


http://www.cnn.com/ELECTION/2008/primaries/results/state/#PA

[ingac70]

18. So CNN knows more than the state of PA?

I call bullshit. The numbers haven't matched all night long... and she has never broke more than %8.6 on the PA site all night.

[gateley]

24. Okay -- my error was pointed out to me. Sorry. nt

[msallied]

8. Why do people treat CNN like gospel.

Trust the people actually counting the fucking votes. Jesus.

[gateley]

14. SELF DELETE -- I was WRONG! Sorry.

EDITING OUT MY SNARKY REMARK WITH APOLOGIES --

[PermanentRevolution]

21. It's not more current - just... different...

CNN:

Obama:1,034,686
Clinton:1,249,577

PA Election Site:

Obama:1,038,480
Clinton:1,232,042

If CNN was more current, it would have larger vote totals for both candidates than the PA site, as more votes came in. As it is, they're just different numbers completely.

[gateley]

22. Okay - I'm wrong. Time to apologize for my snarky remarks to a couple

of folks.

Thanks!

[scheming daemons]

12. Wow.... that was a quick tombstone

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=user_profiles&u_id=219401

[TwilightGardener]

15. Wow. What happened there?

[gateley]

16. What happened?

Why was s/he tombstoned -- any idea?

That post upthread was benign. :shrug:

[msallied]

19. The person referred to Obama as "Hussein O." n/t

[TwilightGardener]

23. Oh. Yeah, that's the mark of an asshole.

[gateley]

25. Oh -- missed that. Glad that didn't take long, then! :-) nt

[JackORoses]

31. CyberPieHole?

[TheDoorbellRang]

32. Someone must have messed up: "klatu narada nictu"

:spray:

[Zachstar]

2. Goodnight!

[ClericJohnPreston]

7. I could have saved you all the rhetoric

Born and raised in Pennsylvania.

No way Obama wins there.

Result? Obama doesn't win win there. Spin to yourt hearts content, OBAMA LOSES.

[ClericJohnPreston]

10. Gee, other than his home State

just how many important BIG States has Obama won?


California, NO; Pennsylvania, NO; Ohio, NO; Massachusetts, NO; New York, NO; Florida, NO.

Glad he is the choice of RED STate voters, who will go McCain in the GE. He can't win a closed Primary. He can't win a general.

[frazzled]

20. Pssst: the adjectival form for Democrat is DemocratIC

Winning (or losing) a state in a 2-way intra-party primary has nothing to do with winning (or losing) a state in a general election.
And winning a closed Democratic primary certainly says nothing about being able to win in a general election, where Independents and Republicans vote.

Perhaps you need to adjust your cleric's cap for more precise thinking. All the spin seems to have dislodged it.

[ClericJohnPreston]

26. Really...

Like being unable to win in the rust belt isn't an indicator for the GE? Really? Not winning a major State is not an indicator for the GE? Really?

Whay flavor of Kool-Aid are you drinking?

[QC]

28. Obama doesn't need places like Pennsylvania and Ohio.

He will make up for them by winning Utah, South Dakota, Wyoming, etc.

[knight_of_the_star]

29. Places no Dem is likely to win

McSame would have to be caught with a dead choir boy and a live five year old girl for the GOP to lost places like that.

[QC]

30. Hey, I'm just repeating what some of the more, um, enthusiastic Obama votaries

around here have said.

[johnnydrama]

34. you forget about

Washington, Iowa, Wisconsin, Colorado. All Obama wins in the GE and Hillary losses.

Oh yah, and probably Oregon.

[ClericJohnPreston]

33. Wow

I remember you before you drank the kool-aid.

I am so impressed he can win in States with more horses than people....NOT!

[TwilightGardener]

17. I was born and raised in PA too. I knew he wouldn't win. But he did reasonably well--

that's good enough to keep the Supers reassured.