Dont read this

[quakerboy]

I told you not to.


According to the CNN exit polling, 13% percent of all voters were White voters who said race mattered to them in this election. Of those 75% went for Hillary.

Doing the math, adding all the votes for each candidate(from the state website) there are 2.1 million votes cast(at 93% reporting) with Hillary aproximately 203k votes ahead

So 13% of those voters say race matters. That would be about 275k voters.

Of those 75% went for Clinton. 25% for Obama, Netting Hillary 138k votes.

9% were blacks who said race mattered to them. 91% for obama, 9% for Hillary. Gain for Obama 157k

Based on that, race overall gained Obama 19k voters.

Hillary is winning by 203k voters.

6% of all voters were men who said that gender mattered. they went for hillary 58/42. That would be a net to Hillary of 20k voters.
14% of all voters were women who said gender mattered. They went to Hillary 77/23. That would be a net gain to Hillary of 159k voters.

Based on that Gender gained Hillary 179k Votes.

So, if all those numbers were factual rather than mere exit polls, Barack lost a lot more due to sexism than he gained due to racism. However, Not enough to change the winner of the election.

Discuss if you want.

[cui bono]

1. Jesus fucking christ.

Just because one gender got more votes doesn't make it about sexism! IF a male and a female are running in opposition then clearly one of them is going to get more votes!

People come on!!!

If you keep analyzing in terms of that the sexism that really does exist will never go away.

[quakerboy]

2. Notice I left out

all the voters who said that they didn't make their choice based on race or gender. Just the ones who said it was important to them in their choice.

[MADem]

3. I do not dispute your assertions, but a link always helps. NT

[quakerboy]

4. here you are

My raw vote numbers were taken from the state website

http://www.electionreturns.state.pa.us/ElectionsInformation.aspx?FunctionID=13&ElectionID=27&OfficeID=1

My exit polling was taken from CNN

http://www.cnn.com/ELECTION/2008/primaries/results/epolls/#PADEM

Race is important number taken from the top of page 5, Gender important info taken from mid/bottom of page 2.


Just realized I could have simplified my calculations, but O well. More specific info is better, right?

[MADem]

6. Thank you for the links! nt

[quakerboy]

8. No prob

Stats are interesting. I enjoy playing with my nerdsheet and looking at all the numbers on this election.

[mmonk]

5. It's not racism or sexism, it's identification.

Sure there were people of both racist and sexist views, but many are voting the historic significance that amounts to identication politics.

[truthisfreedom]

7. Barak Obama is a white man.

Calling a half-black man black is no more the truth than calling a half-white man white.

When I look at Barak I identify with him as a white man. I am a white man, and I see another white man.

I think that's part of the magic of Barak Obama.

[blogslut]

10. Silly me

I think of him as a human being.

[quakerboy]

9. I just realised I made a mistake

I stated that 9% were blacks said they chose based on race. That was the number for blacks who said race was Not important. The real number was 4%.

That changes that side of things a lot.

The revision, among all voters for whom Race was an issue, Hillary won 59/41. That means that she benefitted in 78K votes based on Race.

If you add that to the 179k Voters where she benefitted based on gender, and you have significantly more votes than the margin of victory.

Granted, some of those voters undoubtedly overlap. Preferring to vote for a Women does not exclude you from not wanting to vote for a multiracial man.

Explain to me how Finding a persons gender to be important in your decision is not sexist, or how finding a persons race important in your vote is not Racism?

Does it make a difference whether it is positive (I like people like me) or negative (I dislike people not like me)?

[DerekJ]

11. Interesting, very interesting. Bookmarking.

[Aloha Spirit]

12. Haha I'm happy somebody else had their calculator out too. I like the part about the 5%

of Democratic voters who, in November, will not vote for the person they chose today.
Of those 5%, Hillary has a 2 to 1 advantage. So basically, she won
-the operation chaos vote,
-or, if you prefer, the "I don't know how to use a ballot" vote
-or possibly just the "I don't understand these exit poll questions" vote.

[quakerboy]

13. Ive got the whole nerd spreadsheet going.

Calculators are so last century.

There is always the question of what the exit polls are really worth. How is it that US exit polls are crap, but across the world we use them regularly to judge whether the elections of others are legitimate.

[Aloha Spirit]

14. (metaphorical calculator)

[quakerboy]

15. metaphors are elitist.