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warrior1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-22-08 07:32 AM
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Question for you guys
If Obama had been trailing Clinton in delegates would he all ready gotten out of the race? If he had stayed in like the current situation, what would the pundits be saying about him? What would Hillary say or Bill?

And now back to your regular schedule programing.

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Maddy McCall Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-22-08 07:33 AM
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1. Of course he wouldn't. And people wouldn't be telling him to bow out.
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ericgtr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-22-08 08:45 AM
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12. I don't know why it's taken me this long to ignore you
every single post of yours is slander. Click.
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lisa58 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-22-08 07:38 AM
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2. If Hillary won 11 states in a row...
...Obama would have been pressured to get out - whether he would have or not would be something that only the campaign would decide as they have far more information than we do.
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babylonsister Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-22-08 07:44 AM
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3. If the roles were reversed, people would have 'expected' Obama
to get out. I'm entirely certain of that. That magic (?) name Clinton bought her some time.
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warrior1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-22-08 07:45 AM
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4. Say he was also in the red
in donation and bill paying. I just don't think as a democrat and what they represent would say in the race.


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SheilaT Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-22-08 07:59 AM
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5. I'm of the opinion that he would have
gotten out months ago had he been where Hillary has been, if their delegate numbers had been reversed. I believe he would have seen a good two months ago that he could not possibly win and would have bowed out so the party could unite behind the nominee. Her continued insistence that she can win the nomination and the presidency is beyond absurd. It may well lose Democrats the presidency.

Her idea that the delegates aren't really pledged is outrageously false and shows she has no clue as to exactly how the delegates are selected. I am so frustrated that so many people, including many who post here on DU, have no clue about the entire process, who have never done anything within the system besides vote. Become a Precinct Committee Chair. Run for office. Find out how the delegates to the National Convention are chosen and at least try to become one. I've done all three, and I can assure you that the idea that the delegates will just change their minds about who they support isn't grounded in reality. The idea that the party elders will control how the delegates vote at the national convention is beyond laughable.
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graycem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-22-08 08:14 AM
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6. They might not "force" him..
but he would certainly be mocked for it. Of course some are doing the same right now to Hillary. At any rate I think it is good that so many states are involved this early. People that usually don't get the opportunity until the GE to be really involved are enthusiastically supporting one or the other candidate, both in volunteering and in dollars. I think that makes them much more likely to actually participate in the GE, having become personally invested this early on, especially if their candidate is the nominee. I just don't get how anyone can say that is bad for our party.

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Orsino Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-22-08 08:18 AM
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7. If he had never been the leader in the race, and the presumptive nominee?
He might have given up long since.
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graycem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-22-08 08:19 AM
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8. * deleted a duplicate post
Edited on Tue Apr-22-08 08:20 AM by graycem
stupid corrupt cookies :p
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lojasmo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-22-08 08:29 AM
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9. Out after super tuesday. EOM
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nxylas Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-22-08 08:47 AM
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13. I think out after "mini-Tuesday"
Or at least after officially losing Texas.
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NJmaverick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-22-08 08:32 AM
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10. Obama would have bowed out, if the tables were turned
He would have put the welfare of the party above his self interest. Which is one of the reasons he is the better choice.
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NorthCarolina Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-22-08 08:43 AM
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11. Obama and Clinton have run very different campaigns
Obama has campaigned pretty much on the up-and-up and refrained from Republican-esque attack politics, whereas Clinton has pretty much gone by the Republican playbook (out of a sense of desperation no doubt) for the bulk of her campaign. Since Obama has stuck to the high-road in his campaign I can only assume that he would have done the right thing by now were the results of the voting to date reversed. Remember, Obama is honored to be where he is in contrast with Clinton who operates from the selfish assumption that it is "her turn".
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