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demo dutch Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-21-08 10:03 AM
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McCain most fundraising success in CA & FL. Guranteed McCain will take FL if DNC doesn't do
something about the primary situtation! Something I have been saying all along!
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meow mix Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-21-08 10:07 AM
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1. OH/FL can be left out of obama's win, if they choose to.. Dean/Obama strategy
doesnt need these as lynchpins.
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BzaDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-21-08 10:18 AM
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7. DELUSIONAL!
Edited on Mon Apr-21-08 10:18 AM by zlt234
"Hi, I'm an Obama supporter, and I think that it is easier for Obama to win not just one, but SEVERAL solid-republican states with no room for error, than it is to win one swing state."

That's exactly what you are saying.

I bet you, on election night, when all is determined except Idaho and Wyoming, will say, "ah, well with Dean's 50 state strategy, we surely will have won both."

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oviedodem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-21-08 10:07 AM
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2. I live in FL and I can tell you that it is next to impossible for a Dem to win and if
McCain chooses Crist (WHO IS AN ETERNAL ASSHOLE), it will be a landslide here in Nov.

The mindless drones in this state amazingly follow anything the republican's throw at them. Just last week, Crist rejected a plan to raise the cigarette tax. Why is this important well the State of Florida is in financial trouble.

No dem is winning this state point blank period.
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Dr.Phool Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-21-08 10:15 AM
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3. I beg to differ. Republicans are getting fed up also.
A close friend of mine is running for the State Senate in a heavily Republican district. She qualified by petition, meaning she had to get thousands of signatures from registered voters to get on the ballot.

The normal strategy would be taking a voter file, and hitting mainly Democratic or Independent houses. She decided to hit them all, and she's talked to thousands of Republicans over the last several months, and that they're leaning heavily towards Obama in November. And my firend leans toward Clinton.
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islandmkl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-21-08 10:16 AM
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5. i live in Fla., too....and you are correct....
half these people will vote for mccain because he is as old as they are...

the rest will go for the 'war hero'....
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GoldieAZ49 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-21-08 10:26 AM
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10. I saw Crist traveling extensively with McCain
He is young and popular there, but does he bring other states in besides Florida?


You think Florida will go McCain without Crist as VP?


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demo dutch Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-21-08 11:03 AM
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13. Not necessarily... See my post 11
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demo dutch Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-21-08 10:29 AM
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11. Actually Bill Clinton won FL in 1996. That said, highly unlikely that Crist be will be McCain's
running mate. I think, as a moderate he will pick a more conversative running mate in order to blance the ticket. The large jewish population will probably stay with the Dem nominee. What's more problamatic is the Hispanics who have turned more and more Dem recently, have a big problem with Obama's comments on Chaves and even possibly sitting down with Cuba. As far as whites, there are always big pockets in FL that will never vote Dem however the economy and getting worse here, so they may just vote Dem because of their pocket boo. We'll have wait & see.

But if the DNC continues to ignore FL, FL will be lost for sure!!!!
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speedoo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-21-08 10:16 AM
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4. Except that McCain has now limited himself to public financing.
Which means that Obama could outspend him on advertising in Florida. And anywhere else he chooses.
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Bensthename Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-21-08 10:17 AM
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6. You think FL dems will just hand it over to a 3rd Bush term? What ever..
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Zachstar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-21-08 10:19 AM
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8. McCain is going to take FL. That is not going to Change
McCain is a war hero and is popular in FL. No democrat is going to unseat his support there.

Let me say it again. Even if the FL primary was fine and they were seated. McCain will still win.
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book_worm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-21-08 10:20 AM
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9. The GOP is likely to win FL anyway.
Our best chance to pick up states are in the west: New Mexico, Colorado, Nevada, maybe Montana and also in the farm belt with Iowa and maybe North Dakota and potentially a couple of southern states like Virginia and North Carolina. Plus Ohio and Missouri.
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demo dutch Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-21-08 10:30 AM
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12. See my post #11
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flvegan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-21-08 11:06 AM
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14. I've seen exactly 2 McCain bumper stickers.
And I live on the I4 beltway.

I know exactly one person that's voting McCain. I have a couple fundie-esque colleagues, and they're both all about Obama. The economy here is in trouble, and I think minds are changing what with our R Pres, R Gov and R Congress here.
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madfloridian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-21-08 11:06 AM
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15. FL dems have done such a great propaganda job....
that no Democrat could win here anyway in November.
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Tommy_Carcetti Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-21-08 11:09 AM
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16. Of course. Common sense.
But, you know, that's not good for some people. So disenfranchisement is the word!
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