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Dbdmjs1022 Donating Member (369 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-20-08 01:01 AM
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Here's what I don't get...
Hilary supporters:

Defend their candidate's proven lies
React violently to anyone who criticizes their candidate/supports the other candidate
Calls Obama's supporters such wonderful things as "the pigs wallowing in their slime"
Approve of Hillary's "kitchen sink" Repub-smear strategy
Carry out such attacks even when they are PROVEN incorrect (example: "fingergate")
Say that polls which show Hillary doing well are infallible, while those that show Obama doing well can't be trusted and are worthless
CALL THEIR CANDIDATE THE "GODDESS OF PEACE"



...

And OBAMA has the cult following?

Now I'll be the first to admit that some Obama supporters can get a little crazy, hell I'm one of them. But when you're calling your candidate a "goddess" you're in no position to call anyone else a cultist.


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parasim Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-20-08 02:16 AM
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1. All political campaigns are cults. You didn't know that?
I mean, people get all wrapped up in their candidate that they don't think straight. It happens every election.
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gateley Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-20-08 03:15 AM
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7. Yeah - both sides have selective vision. It's to be expected. nt
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Shae Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-20-08 08:50 AM
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10. I don't remember there ever being
so much hatred one side for the other. Of course, primaries don't usually drag on this long.
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LTR Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-20-08 02:19 AM
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2. They also plot DU attacks on other boards
And put up "I am not bitter" avatars as a group.

And they call Obama supporters 'cultists.'

:eyes:
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davidpdx Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-20-08 02:23 AM
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4. Taylor Marsh and Hillaryis44 sites most likely
On second though, I don't want to know.
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Name removed Donating Member (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-20-08 02:25 AM
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davidpdx Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-20-08 02:21 AM
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3. The problem is you are trying to understand them...
Edited on Sun Apr-20-08 02:21 AM by davidpdx
as rational thinking creatures. None of them will admit her campaign tactics are hurting her. Yet, they use the words Obamaites and Obama-whatever (add your favorite ending) to describe us and call us cultists. That sounds pretty irrational to me.
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FrenchieCat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-20-08 02:29 AM
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6. There is no rationality when being in love.....
The ardent Hillary supporters love her or Bill, or whichever one will do.

It will take time for them to heal, and fall out of love.

Some might never get over it.
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BigBearJohn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-20-08 05:29 AM
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8. Stealing my idea huh? Isn't that what I just said about Obama's followers a few days ago.
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davidpdx Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-20-08 05:31 AM
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9. Stalk much?
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justgamma Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-20-08 09:06 AM
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11. This is the first time in a long time
that people aren't voting against someone. People actually are enthusiastic about their candidate. We just don't recognize this because it doesn't happen very often.
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Liberal Gramma Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-20-08 10:50 AM
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12. Good point
People on both sides are enthusiastic. My hope is that once we have a candidate, that will translate to unprecedented support.
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LWolf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-20-08 11:05 AM
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13. Let me explain:
From my pov, anyway.

Both of the opposing camps have "cultish" elements.

Why?

Personally, I think it's because issues stopped mattering a long time ago. Only winning matters, whether there's any substance to either of the candidates or not.

That, and I believe Democratic voters have been sold down the river. If you look at both these candidates, you find more in common than not. They are both centrist/corporatist/3rd way/"new" dems; one bears the DLC label and one doesn't, but their platforms say "corporatist" to me.

So why are we caught up in such an embroglio with these two?

With the same basic platform, guaranteeing that we won't see the change we say we want to see, why all the animosity? Perhaps because democrats have been forced to choose between two long-held dreams: electing a woman, or electing a person of color. That's an emotion-triggering scenario that leaves issues in the dust, and forces democrats to choose sides. In reality, it shouldn't be an issue at all. The fact that democrats are willing to vote for women and for people of color should be something to take pride in, but it shouldn't divide us over gender and race.

As a matter of fact, the current civil war serves the opposition well. It keeps us divided, giving them more room to enact their agenda, and it guarantees that, no matter who wins in November, while Democrats are nursing their wounds or joyfully celebrating the election of a woman or a person of color, the corporate agenda goes on unhindered.

I'm sure most supporters of either candidate will disagree. As a supporter of neither, I'm speaking what I see, from my perspective. It can't be about issues, because they are not that far apart. If it's not about issues, what's left to whip up the party into such an emotional frenzy?
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ORDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-20-08 11:06 AM
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14. Hillary = Republican (aka DINO). See? Simple. nt
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