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Blue State Bandit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-19-08 11:54 AM
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I Concede, Hillary Must Go! This political suicide pact must end!
Edited on Sat Apr-19-08 12:16 PM by ingin
Not just for her reputation. Not just for the party. Not just for the country. But for the world as we know it.

I have been a supporter of Barack Obama since December, but I never felt it was right to say that she should pull out, or be forced out until now. She is now committing political suicide in an attempt to take Barack with her. This can no longer stand.

This feeling has been accumulating for a few weeks now, but the last straw was the Weather Underground attacks now being leveled at Barack Obama by the Hillary camp and Hillary herself. Her all out negative attack policy has driven up her negatives to the point that she is no longer electable, yet she persists to write the playbook for the Republican plan of attack against her "fellow" Democratic candidate.

She blames everybody but herself or her husband for the problems with her campaign. She blames the press, the voters, the Democratic base, even a major net-roots organization formed to defend her husband from impeachment for everything from the loss of the past two Presidential races, to her own campaign's mismanagement.

It has become abundantly obvious that she will sacrifice the entire party, everything we have built in the past 4 years, to guarantee that she represents the Democratic Party as our nominee. Though she no longer has a chance to win in the GE (since her tactics will drive most of our newly minted Democratic registries out of politics) she continues to assail Barack Obama with a Rovian fervor that is most detested within the Democratic party.

There was a time, not too long ago, when I had high hopes that Hillary would be thoughtful of how she ran her campaign; that she would hold the party's survival above her own. That she would not sacrifice our country's future for her own vanity. I was wrong.

I used to say that if a Republican wins in '08, that I would pack my bags. But Hillary looks to me to be capable of sending me packing even if she is the President. She is running her campaign like a Republican. And in light of her distain for the vast majority of the activated party foot-soldiers, and her campaign's tactics, I fear that her Republican tendencies will continue were she to become President. But ultimately, I highly doubt that she even has a chance in hell to win a GE contest against McSame. She will unite the Republican base behind McSame, while fracturing our own. This is nothing less than mass political suicide, and we will all suffer the fall out.

Please, end this now! Before we all pay the price for her hubris!

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BlooInBloo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-19-08 11:55 AM
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1. True, but it only matters to those who want a better Democratic party, and for Democrats to win....
... For the rest of DUers, what you say is meaningless.
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marylanddem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-19-08 11:57 AM
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2. I absolutely concur.

I think Howard Dean's yesterday urging all superdelegates to put their cards on the table RIGHT NOW is because of this bullshit.
He now needs to help show her the door.
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Fluffdaddy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-19-08 12:00 PM
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3. She feels The Big O will implode. She will not Concede until she has no options
Edited on Sat Apr-19-08 12:00 PM by Fluffdaddy
And I agree with her.
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PatGund Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-19-08 12:07 PM
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5. Nahhh.....
Roger the Negotiator's pretty good about making sure The Big O saves the day.....

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Big_O

As for Sen. Obama, he hasn't imploded yet and shows no signs of such. Sen. Clinton's done some meltdowns though.
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Blue State Bandit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-19-08 12:09 PM
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6. But her last option seems to be....
to explode and take down the entire party with her. With every attack, she only seems to stem her campaign's hemorrhaging. She has not shown any significant gains. The only numbers moving much are her negatives, and of course, her falling national numbers.

Meanwhile, McSame and the Republicans are just sitting back taking notes.
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superkia Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-19-08 02:09 PM
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7. I would go with, her elite boss' running the show hidden away...
wanted and expected her to be their girl and every since the votes actually started being cast and people are waking up they need her to destroy Obamas chances so they can get their number two guy, McCain. If she were running a decent campaign I would give her the benefit of the doubt and say you are right but she is running a campaign as nasty if not worse than everyones hated republicans and she still has some supporters behind what she is doing? She knows that unless the super delegates sell out America (which is highly likely considering what our government has done to us in the past and present) she is done, so she will stay in until the end to destroy the democrats chances to appease her boss' and their agenda.

The only way I see her stepping down, is if the elite come up with a way to take out or deal with Obama stirring up Americans and getting them involved in their country for 4 years so they can make sure to give it to her next time or they come up with another false flag so bush can cancel the elections and become dictator...you know like saddam.

If Americans get a president that actually gets them involved and paying attention, it will be a huge obstacle for the elite to overcome so they can continue their agenda.
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doublethink Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-19-08 12:02 PM
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4. Feel free to copy and paste my little 'Surrender Hillary' .....
Oz signature line. K&R and Peace.
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Rageneau Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-19-08 03:09 PM
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8. You concede for whom? For me? For Hillary. Or just for the 'world as we know it.'?
Whichever, we'll remove your name from the ballot.
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ClericJohnPreston Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-19-08 03:13 PM
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9. Tsk,tsk
:thumbsup:

These Obamatons never met hyperbole,and drama they didn't like.

The only thing they are uncomfortable with is sanity, reason and logic. Then again, the former is associated with cult hysteria, while the latter is the reasoning of wise men and women, you know, non-Obama supporters.
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WyLoochka Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-20-08 08:29 AM
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16. "sanity, reason and logic"
These are three of the top characteristics, with which Obama is superiorly endowed, that convinced me to support him.

And "drama" - it's the "drama" baggage that both Clintons haul with them everywhere they go that I find so repulsive.
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Blue State Bandit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-20-08 03:02 PM
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21. Again, with the cult crap.....
Is insult all you have?
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roseBudd Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-20-08 03:08 PM
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22. That's weird because Hillary's base is the lesser educated, does this mean education makes us STUPID
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RiverStone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-19-08 03:26 PM
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10. Yes and I dearly wish other people could see her tactics for what they are
Edited on Sat Apr-19-08 03:27 PM by RiverStone
They are so transparently Rove-like in intent and strategy - yet power is so seductive. Hillary and Bill want more! Even after living in the White House for 8 years - they want more!!!

She will destroy any chance she has of ever rising to prominence again in the party if she keeps it up. But it seems she is too myopic to care, or worse - knows exactly what she is doing.
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NoPasaran Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-19-08 03:28 PM
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11. No, it's time for Obama to withdraw
And save the Superdelegates from having to do what is sure to be a disagreeable task, saving the Democratic Party from itself. A task sure to cause huge amounts of bandwidth to go up in flames on DU, Kos, HuffPo, and other places frequented by the Obamapaths.
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dana_b Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-19-08 03:41 PM
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12. He's ahead by over 150 delegates and HE should withdraw??
:wtf:
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crankychatter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-19-08 03:57 PM
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13. Grow or go
period... those are the options of the Democratic Party

there will be no in between
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ORDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-19-08 11:24 PM
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14. K
:kick:
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dano81818 Donating Member (185 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-19-08 11:28 PM
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15. yep, and her muckrakers point the finger at karl rove
and say it's his fault they are conducting themselves so dishonorably. i am tired of them justifying ever smear attack by saying rove would just do it to obama in the general so it's fair game for hillary to exploit in the primaries... pure hypocracyyy.. meanwhile, the opposite is true since they are in fact writing the script for the republicans! how hillary supporters deny this amazes me.
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TragedyandHope Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-20-08 09:25 AM
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17. Well, she's going to hit the brick wall of inevitability soon enough
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IsItJustMe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-20-08 09:49 AM
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18. Most captains of a ship, when it is going down, tries to save as many people as possible. Not
Hillary, she wants to take as many people as she can down with her.
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stillcool Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-20-08 11:14 AM
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19. I don't think she should drop out...
I agree with Obama's sentiment that she should stay in as long as she wants. I have learned a lot from this Primary Season about who these candidates are. They have shown themselves in a light I would never have seen. It is very much a precursor to the GE, and for people who are taking an interest it is very revealing.
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Bensthename Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-20-08 11:33 AM
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20. She lacks the courage of Edwards, Biden, Richardson, etc..
They also new they mathematically could not win and dropped for the good of the party. And then on the other side you had the one remaining candidate = Huckabee. He also decided to stay in but never tried to make McCain unelectable just for his one sake.

I'm right there with you man.. I can't even watch a clip of Hillary with out wanting to put my foot through the TV or computer..

Oh, well, this race isnt about dems, rePubes, HC, war, etc.. It is all about Hillary so we better get used to it for the sake of our sanity. Let's just give the GOP the red meat they are waiting for..
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