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aaroh (460 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-18-08 11:02 PM Original message |
Poll question: Is the Moveon-Gate going to hurt Hillary? |
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FrenchieCat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-18-08 11:02 PM Original message |
Where's the "We Don't Give A Shit" choice? |
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RBInMaine (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-18-08 11:04 PM Response to Original message |
4. She IS relevant. There is a long way to go. Work for Obama, She screwed up with this issue ! |
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jackson_dem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-18-08 11:12 PM Response to Reply #4 |
11. I agree. I beg FrenchCat to keep working for Obama. Canvass for him if possible, call for him |
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goldcanyonaz (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-18-08 11:31 PM Response to Reply #11 |
23. Oh please, you're hope is that she comes off as a crazed lunatic.... |
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jackson_dem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-18-08 11:44 PM Response to Reply #23 |
28. French? What would be the odds of that happening with her |
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grantcart (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-18-08 11:07 PM Response to Original message |
7. like a wounded animal she is actually more dangerous now |
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undeterred (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-18-08 11:17 PM Response to Reply #7 |
16. maybe she'll gnaw her whole body off if we're lucky |
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goldcanyonaz (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-18-08 11:29 PM Response to Original message |
22. How can you have so much hate for another woman? |
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cliffordu (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-18-08 11:40 PM Response to Reply #22 |
25. Here's the thing- I don't hate her. I hate the way she acts. |
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anonymous171 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-18-08 11:02 PM Response to Original message |
1. It might not hurt her with Voters, but it will hurt her with the SDs. |
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doublethink (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-18-08 11:03 PM Response to Reply #1 |
3. Bingo. n.t. |
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RBInMaine (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-18-08 11:05 PM Response to Reply #1 |
5. It WILL hurt her with some primary voters and it bolsters her crediblity problem. |
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saltpoint (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-18-08 11:03 PM Response to Original message |
2. Don't know for sure what impact it will have, but it does appear to |
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boppers (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-18-08 11:07 PM Response to Original message |
6. It's risking her Senate seat. |
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countmyvote4real (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-18-08 11:23 PM Response to Reply #6 |
19. She did not get my vote for a second term in 2006. |
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PM7nj (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-18-08 11:10 PM Response to Original message |
8. Short term, no. Long term, YES. |
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la la (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-18-08 11:36 PM Response to Reply #8 |
24. exactly so--- |
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jackson_dem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-18-08 11:11 PM Response to Original message |
9. No. The "netroots" have hated her for years. This changes nothing |
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anonymous171 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-18-08 11:15 PM Response to Reply #9 |
13. Yes. That's why they hounded ABC for airing that P.O.S "documentary", right? |
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JeffR (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-18-08 11:15 PM Response to Reply #9 |
14. I think you're right n/t |
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Quixote1818 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-18-08 11:18 PM Response to Reply #9 |
18. I agree, the only thing that hurts her is saying two different things. nt |
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zulchzulu (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-18-08 11:12 PM Response to Original message |
10. It doesn't actually matter in the full scheme of things...it just shows how poisonous she is... |
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Emit (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-18-08 11:13 PM Response to Original message |
12. ONLY if the media repeats it ad nauseum 24-7 like they did Wright |
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Cosmocat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Apr-19-08 05:32 AM Response to Reply #12 |
42. Which means, not a lot ... |
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ericgtr (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-18-08 11:16 PM Response to Original message |
15. Not unless the MSM runs with it |
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Bluebear (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-18-08 11:17 PM Response to Original message |
17. Oh good, we needed another "gate" |
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rucky (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-18-08 11:25 PM Response to Original message |
20. Naw. The feeling's mutual. n/t |
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GoldieAZ49 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-18-08 11:28 PM Response to Original message |
21. Disassociating with Moveon is the best thing |
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anonymous171 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-18-08 11:42 PM Response to Reply #21 |
26. MoveOn was founded to help end Bill's impeachment. |
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GoldieAZ49 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-18-08 11:46 PM Response to Reply #26 |
29. So? |
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krawhitham (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-18-08 11:47 PM Response to Reply #29 |
31. Was he removed from office? |
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PBS Poll-435 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Apr-19-08 02:48 AM Response to Reply #31 |
40. So..MoveOn acquitted Bill Clinton in the Senate? |
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jillan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-18-08 11:42 PM Response to Original message |
27. In the Primary - yes. In the GE - NO! |
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krawhitham (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-18-08 11:46 PM Response to Reply #27 |
30. She does not need to worry about the GE |
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jillan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Apr-19-08 12:47 AM Response to Reply #30 |
35. Pleased to meet you -----> |
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americanstranger (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-18-08 11:47 PM Response to Original message |
32. It already has. |
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Yukari Yakumo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Apr-19-08 12:05 AM Response to Original message |
33. Not as much as it could (and should) since it's Friday {nt} |
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malik flavors (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Apr-19-08 12:07 AM Response to Original message |
34. If it gets media play leading up to the primary and she looks like a double talker, it will. |
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TragedyandHope (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Apr-19-08 12:58 AM Response to Original message |
36. Why would anyone think otherwise? |
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k8conant (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Apr-19-08 01:05 AM Response to Original message |
37. Everything hurts Hillary |
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oldgrowth (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Apr-19-08 02:43 AM Response to Original message |
38. And she had to lie about moveon on top of it !!!!!!!!!nt |
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PBS Poll-435 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Apr-19-08 02:44 AM Response to Original message |
39. Nope. |
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Zachstar (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Apr-19-08 05:24 AM Response to Original message |
41. It may not hurt as much in PA. But in terms of SDs and activist voters in other states it dooms |
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workinclasszero (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Apr-19-08 05:41 AM Response to Original message |
43. I hope Hillary loses her Senate seat |
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ORDem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Apr-19-08 11:26 AM Response to Original message |
44. At this point she has shot off both feet, hands, and is about to slit her own |
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rug (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Apr-19-08 11:27 AM Response to Original message |
45. With who? Moveon's been against her for months. |
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GarbagemanLB (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Apr-19-08 11:32 AM Response to Reply #45 |
47. The SDs. You don't piss off one of the strongest Democratic activist groups in the party if you |
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Bullet1987 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Apr-19-08 11:30 AM Response to Original message |
46. You can't slam the entire Dem netroots and Dem activists and think it's |
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ruggerson (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Apr-19-08 11:33 AM Response to Original message |
48. rofl |
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mod mom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Apr-19-08 11:36 AM Response to Original message |
49. Yes because she lied (again) about Move-On's position about Afghanistan and flip-flopped |
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davsand (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Apr-19-08 11:42 AM Response to Original message |
50. Seems like a bad idea to piss off the people who actually DO stuff. |
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