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MoonRiver Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-23-04 06:44 PM
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Any new battleground polls?
I hunger for them! :9
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patriotvoice Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-23-04 06:44 PM
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1. Rasmussen indicates Kerry has a narrow lead.
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NMDemDist2 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-23-04 06:45 PM
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2. bookmark this site, he updates daily
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MoonRiver Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-23-04 06:55 PM
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5. Thanks, I just bookmarked!
It looks like a good one!
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wjsander Donating Member (262 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-23-04 06:46 PM
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3. Here's an article on recent NJ and NC polls
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eaprez Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-23-04 06:54 PM
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4. Bush up in Ohio
Similarly, independent pollster John Zogby said that his battleground polls conducted between June 1 and 6, "reflect a slight improvement for the president." Two key states, Ohio and Missouri, have "both switched from the Kerry to the Bush column," he reported last week.


http://washingtontimes.com/national/20040619-121055-1344r.htm
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MoonRiver Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-23-04 07:00 PM
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6. They're calling it a slight Reagan bounce.
Nothing to worry about. * is probably already down again.
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lancdem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-23-04 07:03 PM
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7. A more recent poll in Ohio done by the L.A. Times
has Kerry up by 3.
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MoonRiver Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-23-04 07:05 PM
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8. Bye, bye bouncie bush*ie.
Time to start packing for Crawford.
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eaprez Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-23-04 07:20 PM
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9. I'm not Pro Bush by any stretch
...but you can bet your last dollar on Zogby.
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MoonRiver Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-23-04 07:54 PM
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10. Zogby was probably correct, but the numbers represented a Reagan bounce,
imo. LA Times is also an excellent pollster and it's results may reflect the post bounce reality. Hopefully.
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yellowcanine Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-23-04 08:57 PM
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11. Well Reagan can only die once so I guess * will have to pin his
hopes on snagging Osama ten days before the election. Of course with his credibility half the voters would think he had been keeping Osama "on ice" if he did that so it might backfire. Poor George.
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MoonRiver Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-24-04 07:43 AM
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14. Yeah, how obviously convenient would that be, lol!
Osama bin Missing until * magically pulls him out of a hat just before the November elections.
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TheStateChief Donating Member (232 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-23-04 10:16 PM
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12. Actually Zogby's is more recent
Has Bush up in Ohio (poll taken between June 15 and 20).
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Bombtrack Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-23-04 10:50 PM
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13. North Carolina: Bush 47%, Kerry 42% (Research 2000)
http://www.newsobserver.com/news/story/1358875p-7482121c.html

And yes, Kerry could win it with Edwards as vp.
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MallRat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-24-04 10:27 AM
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17. If Bush is leading by 5 in NC, he's in trouble.
We're seeing a pattern developing, folks.

Arkansas, Virginia, North Carolina, Nevada... a lot of red states are turning pink (and in the case of Nevada, pale blue).

If Bush has to burn money and time shoring up these states, he's going to be in trouble in real battleground states like Missouri, the Southwest, and the industrial Midwest.

Keep this going...

-MR
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Eurobabe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-24-04 08:48 AM
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15. Ohio: Kerry 49, Bu$h 43, Nader 2
American Research Group, Dick Bennett:
http://americanresearchgroup.com/ohg/

So much for the Raygun bounce!
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Beetwasher Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-24-04 09:56 AM
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16. Now THAT Poll is Terrific News!!!!
Thanks!!!
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MoonRiver Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-24-04 06:08 PM
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18. That's just awesome!
It keeps getting better and better. Just imagine after the convention when Kerry announces his VP!

Woo hoo!! :bounce:
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Nicholas_J Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-24-04 07:27 PM
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19. Depends
State polls are diretly contradicting each other, where in places like Ohio, Fox News has Bush ahead of Kerry 45% to 41%


But ARG has Kerry head of Bush in that same state , 49% to 43%

for the same dates.

Same thing In Pennsylvia, wher Fox has Bush ahead 46 % to 41%

but again, Quinnipiac has Kerry ahead 44% to 43%

Fox again, Bush ahead in Florida, 48% to 38%

But another poll in Florida, ARG, has Kerry head 47% to 46%

The most recent Fox poll for Michigan does it again, Bush ahead of Kerry, 42% to 40%, but there no one has done a recent poll during this latest time period in that state which reverses this data, and this is the state that I expect Kerry will do far better in.

This is in keeping with my theory thatconservaitive supporting media or organizations are trying to effect public opinion in states where Kerry isa ahead of Bush, by running polls that are slanted in such a way that they get the results they want, that is Bush in the lead. I suspect that the nect polls done in Michigan by someone other than Fox will show Kerry in the lead in that state.

http://www.realclearpolitics.com/bush_vs_kerry_sbys.html

Fox was very active in trying to create the image that Bush was going to win in 2000, and it is thought that this was responsible for a number of late democratic voters deciding that it was not worth their while to go out and vote, as the deal was done. I think they are trying to build up for a similar attempt in November, but I do not think that Democratic voters will be quite as gullible this time around.

This latest round of polling in the states dows indicate that Reagans dealth may have given Bush a boost, but not enough to put him ahead of Kerry. Right now breaking down electoral votes in states where Kerry leads, Kerry has 246 electoral votes in 17 states, Bush has 162 electoral votes in 18 states, 9 states too close to tell with 100 EV, and 8 states in which no polls have been done which have 30 EV.

Kewrry is still ahead in Florida accoring to the site that tracks these EV's, He is ahead in New Hampshire, and Iowa. For an additional 38 electoral votes giving Kerry the win in the elctoral college with 284 electoral votes.

Goes doen good in my book. Kerry has consistantly been keeping enough of a lead in electoral votes that only require him to win two or 3 states to win the electoral college even if Bush takes 14 of the 17 states that are too close to call or for which no data exists.

Kerry is likely to take Hawaii, for which there is no data, another 4 EV. Demoending on who Kerry selets as running mate, Missouri. one of the too close to tell states, could go to Kerry, Where Bush has 48.6 percent in tracking polls, Kerry has 47.9 percent. Gephardt could certainly make the differnce in his home state. And a number of polls indicate that Gephardt could firm up Kerry's leads in Ohio, Michigan, and Wisonsin. Bush is ahead in North Carolina 47% to 42% for Kerry, a longer stretch for Edwards to work on, but not inconceivable. The only southern states left where Bush is only ahead by single digits include Louisiana (Bush 48% Kerry 42%),West Virginia (Bush 49.1% Kerry 43.1%. Florida is 2 percent in Kerry's favor, and Kerry is 2 percent ahead in Arkansas right now) Edwards has a bit of a stretch in the states that Bush has 5 or 6 point leads in, and he might do it in his home state, but unlikely outside of his own state, as his inability to beat Kerry in southern states other than his home state was a string indication that Edwards may not have what it takes to sway his own region. Lookin strategically, Gephardt would have less problems bringing his own states electoral votes to Kerry, and less of a problem boosting Kerry's lead in a ferw other midwestern states, particularly those with a heavy union make up, like Michigan. Gephart is the king of the hill with the United Auto Workers, and like the Teamsters, Gephardt, is the running mate that the U.A.W. is stringly suggesting that Kerry select. A recent Ohio poll shows that Gephardt boosts Kerry's lead in that state more than another running mate, boosting Kerry's polls in that state by one percentage point. Enough to firm the state for Kerry. I think a good deal is riding on the running mate, particualrly in the area of firming up a nuber of states. Strategically Gepahrdt will have an easier job of it than Edwards.
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fujiyama Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-24-04 11:37 PM
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20. Hmmm
Edited on Thu Jun-24-04 11:39 PM by fujiyama
Fox Polls...I really wouldn't put much stock in them.

That ARG poll seems more trustworthy...as does the Quinnipiac. The latter is actually often friendly to Bush. They usually have states like NY and NJ much closer than they usually are...

As for MI, Bush can forget about it. I've seen only two polls with a Bush lead - this FOX poll and another in the Detroit News (another right wing rag).

As for FL, I doubt Bush is up by ten, but then again another poll had Bush with a decent lead. It seems as though Bush has opened a slight lead in this state. Of course, there's also that fraud/Jeb/Diebold factor...

I'd say things are looking pretty good for Kerry. Another very encouraging piece of data is Bush's numbers in states he MUST win, like VA, NC, and AR. One poll had Kerry up by two points in AR. Polls have Kerry trailing by only five in NC, and tied with Edwards as VP. One poll had Kerry down by only two in VA. Bush may be forced to spend money in those states, which allows money to be spent in states like OH, and those states Gore barely won like OR, WI, and IA.




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DenaliDemocrat Donating Member (536 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-25-04 02:29 AM
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21. Fox Polls
I am no professional pollster, but I am a professional scientist and I use statistics every day to prove/disprove my research. Anyway, I am always very cognizant about how data is presented i.e. is it random, dependent, etc.

I like to read Fox New's questions, and they almost all certianly have a slant. Fox is a bunch of liars who twise and corrupt. They would not know empirical data if was written on their face.


Trust Zogby, Quinnipiac, Gallup, and LA Times polls.
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Andromeda Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-25-04 03:34 AM
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22. Thanks, appreciate the input.
By the way, welcome to DU!:hi:
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