Obama was given a flag pin by disabled Veteran Philip Fiumara, Jr.

[Swamp Rat]

Video here:
http://www.disaboom.com/Blogs/disabled_politico/archive/2008/04/16/barack-obama-given-flag-pin-by-disabled-veteran-with-video.aspx

Hillary supporters who are posting slams against Obama over wearing this flag pin need to stop right now. It is very disrespectful to all veterans and those who are still serving.

[Cant trust em]

1. I like how he wasn't even wearing it tonight

Just a total rejection of the ridiculousness of the idea that wearing a flag pin defines his patriotism.

[flpoljunkie]

42. One of the things I admire about Obama, he does not pander!

[VenusRising]

2. Thank you, Swamp Rat!

K&R, baby!

:hi:

[grasswire]

3. I don't think people are critical of him wearing the pin.

They are critical of him saying tonight that he never said he wouldn't wear a pin, when he has said precisely that.

[FrenchieCat]

5. He can change his fucking mind.

Because someone gave him one that had something to back it up of substance.


Grow the fuck up.

This ain't the Nuremberg Trials, and we don't live in Nazi Germany!

[grasswire]

17. you've sure got a dirty mouth

It doesn't reflect well on your hero.

[Political Heretic]

20. lol, wut?

I'm sorry... did I just step into Puritanical Underground?

[cliffordu]

23. ROFLMAO !!!!!

:rofl: :rofl:

[DarienComp]

7. What, he took a solemn vow to never wear a flag pin again?

When was this?

[chascarrillo]

8. You need to brush up on your verbs. "Do not" does not equate to "will not".

[johnnydrama]

9. note to you

you're part of the problem

[TheDoorbellRang]

10. Saying that you choose not to wear a pin is not the same as saying

you would never wear one. Good grief. Nuance is a lost art in our new soundbite society.

[MidwestTransplant]

19. That's not even nuance, it's a clear distinction. People hear what they want.

[Swamp Rat]

11. "when he has said precisely that...." So what if he did? Was he supposed to shit on a veteran?

I'd change my mind too, if I had made such a vow about not wearing flag lapel pins, if confronted by a situation where a disabled veteran asked me to wear one.

Obama is obviously a progressive thinker, and not bound to convictions founded on trivial matters such as wearing flag lapel pins.

He cared more for disabled veteran Philip Fiumara, Jr. than he did for his own, inconsequential rule, which makes me respect Obama more now than ever before.

[Usrename]

16. That would be fine, except he never said that.

:eyes:

[Political Heretic]

18. Actually they're not critical of him over anything having to do with a pin whatsoever.

This is a completely manufactured issue that no one actually cares about outside of punditry and political couch commanders.

[ShortnFiery]

32. He said AT THE TIME, right after 911, that he DON'T wear one, he did not say he'd NEVER wear one.

GEE, why is that so hard to understand IMO, anyone with the maturity above that of a Junior High Clique? Note: My apologies to JH student cliques. ;)

[yardwork]

43. And that's the most important issue facing the country, after all.

I mean, if Obama changed his mind about never wearing lapel jewelry, then obviously he can't be president, right?

[Justitia]

4. I cannot believe some people think Obama should have embarrassed a disabled vet on television.

The disabled vet gave a very sincere gift to Obama and apparently, some among us think he should have ungraciously refused and embarrassed the man on the national stage.

What the hell is wrong with you people?

And as to the "lie" allegation....ridiculous.

Obama said he didn't want to currently wear one in some kind of nationalistic fervor.

I cannot believe we are having this freaking discussion over FLAG PINS!!!!

This election has really gone into the crapper.

[Swamp Rat]

6. Thank you! n/t

[cliffordu]

12. That's right, Swampy -

I'm a genuine fucking Vietnam Veteran.

LEAVE OBAMA ALONE ABOUT THE GODDAMNED FLAG PIN.

AS LONG AS SCUMSUCKING WAR CRIMINALS LIKE BUSH AND CHENEY WEAR THEM

WHILE TORTURING MEN IN SECRET PRISONS, THAT FLAG PIN ON YOUR LAPEL IS THE MARK OF A TRAITOR.

OBAMA is one of the finest patriots I have ever heard speak.

I'd want him watching my back in harms way.


More than any of the cowards dressed up as 'flag pin rangers' on THIS fucking board.

[Swamp Rat]

13. Thanks

Please rec this and keep it kicked to counter the rw propaganda.

[cliffordu]

15. K AND R!!!

:kick:

[WillYourVoteBCounted]

22. "flag pin rangers" - cool

well said.

And I too will feel alot better when Obama is in the White House
and our military can be treated better.

[Cha]

14. That's right..Obama accepted a "flag pin" from a veteran who

asked him to wear it..which was really poignant since Obama had the good judgement and common sense to know we shouldn't have bombed Iraq in the first place.

<conclusion snip>

"The consequences of war are dire, the sacrifices immeasurable. We may have occasion in our lifetime to once again rise up in defense of our freedom, and pay the wages of war. But we ought not -- we will not -- travel down that hellish path blindly. Nor should we allow those who would march off and pay the ultimate sacrifice, who would prove the full measure of devotion with their blood, to make such an awful sacrifice in

http://www.barackobama.com/2002/10/02/remarks_of_illinois_state_sen.php

Thanks for the video, Swampie!

[Swamp Rat]

31. Kick for all the idiotic 'flag pin' threads that keep popping up like mushrooms.

[Swamp Rat]

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[WillYourVoteBCounted]

21. hillary doesn't wear a flag pin, in fact seemed like none of them were

but I love the reason that Obama wore it.

Thank you Swamp Rat!

[ClayZ]

24. Thanks, Swamp Rat

I heard about that. I am glad you posted the video.


GOBAMA

edit: K and R

[Swamp Rat]

36. kick

[ClayZ]

40. And another * kick *

:kick:

[Swamp Rat]

41. More goddamn 'flag pin' threads

:kick:

[Swamp Rat]

44. and more

:kick:

[Swamp Rat]

45. flag pins flag pins flag pins flag pins flag pins flag pins flag pins flag pins flag pins flag pins

[SunsetDreams]

25. k&r

I'm beginning to wonder if some of these people are even Democrats around here.

They sure don't act like it.

[Swamp Rat]

27. kick

[aaronbees]

26. A great moment

Thank you for posting that, Swamp Rat. A touching moment.

The nerve of Stephanopoulos and Gibson to question this man's patriotism - good God almighty, what a frickin' joke.

[sonias]

28. Thanks for the link Swamp Rat

"I think I'll go ahead and put that on" "It means a lot coming from you"
-Obama

:applause::applause::applause:

Sonia

[Ichingcarpenter]

29. kick nominated

I think some really don't care for the truth

[Swamp Rat]

30. thanks

[bigbrother05]

34. Thanks Swamp Rat

[Swamp Rat]

35. kick

[cliffordu]

37. Kickereeno!!

:kick:

[Swamp Rat]

38. Thanks

I have been kicking this thread every time I see one of those bull shit "flag pin" threads.

[cliffordu]

39. Yeah and now we got those motherfucking trolls and 'fingergate'

:banghead:

[Swamp Rat]

46. Bushler prepares to create more veterans while foolish people argue over meaningless, trivial things

[AtomicKitten]

47. No disabled veteran goes untrampled in Hillary's push for the White House.

[Swamp Rat]

48. dupe-gate

[Swamp Rat]

49. Meanwhile, the term '-gate' has been co-opted to minimize it's original usage regarding REAL CRIMES

The Roves, Penns and other propagandists are likely enjoying their new success.

What a bunch of fools we are... "a foo' cayn't git foo'ed agayne!"

[AtomicKitten]

50. When we start coapting their tactics a la the Clinton campaign

we are officially no better than those we have despised all these years. The Clintons have earned their pariah status in the party.