BEST GAWD DAYUM DEBATE EVER

[boston bean]

O doesn't seek ayres advice often.

[BootinUp]

1. Hope not, lol.

[smiley_glad_hands]

2. Doesn't change the dynamic, Obama is still leading, just as he will be after Pa. eom

[JoFerret]

12. Probably .... but the truth is she won this debate

and Kerry beat Bush in 2004 too.

[smiley_glad_hands]

22. I can agree on the second part of your statement. eom

[quakerboy]

29. As far as I can tell

Hannity won this debate. Certainly, it wasn't the Democratic nominee that won.

[JoFerret]

40. Conspiratorial paranoia

This was a great work-out for the fall.

[ihelpu2see]

34. That was not a debate. Does not even get close to what a debate should be

Sen. Clinton supporters should not be proud of what just happened and nor should Sen. Obama's . What just happened, save the discussion on Social Security, was lets see who has lice or warts or maybe knew somebody once who had a STD and that is not a debate. That is likening the democratic primary to picking a prom queen or king its the popularity contest thing with horrible Charlie with right wing questions for all.

just sad and sadder that someone would think that anyone wins that kind of fiasco.

[JoFerret]

41. At least it was not an endless set of questions

on the meaning of the word "bitter".

[livingmadness]

39. Careful, your naivete is showing

You don't have a winner straight after the debate - sheesh, this is not a boxing match, this is politics!! The winner is found in the days following the debate and is dependent on public reaction (e.g. poll reaction); and media coverage (which of course in turn, influences poll reactions). I think you are about to be severely disappointed ... much of the coverage is on controversy surrounding the way the debate was conducted (potentially likely to garner Obama some sympathy) and that Hillary said Obama can beat McCain in the GE, as evidenced by the far reaching Associated Press:

http://ap.google.com/article/ALeqM5g8-DEMtAE9q4i4ySQ0eV_qZefmRQD903DNAO1

Now this is not to declare it a win for Obama, as I said, the coming days and ultimately the coming primaries will be the judge of that.

[JoFerret]

43. No need to patronize

Kerry was the clear "winner" in the debates in 2004.
Gore was the clear "winner" in 2000
Bush was a bumbling half-wit.
Made little or no difference.
Clinton came across in this debate as the person in command etc.
Obama did fine. Both are great candidates.

So what? the world being as it is it will probably make little difference.

[rurallib]

3. Channeling Hannity?

[youknowmenotdlc]

4. Thats because Clinton pardoned Ayres buddies.

nm

[boston bean]

5. He was still friends after 911. Sorry no go!

[chascarrillo]

13. Grammar. Use it.

[stillcool]

36. Friends?...

ABC News
Clinton Camp Pushes O-Bomber Links: Ignores Her Own Radical Ties
Clinton, Obama Spar on Ties to Radicals
By JUSTIN ROOD

Feb. 22, 2008—

The Hillary Clinton campaign pushed to reporters today stories about Barack Obama and his ties to former members of a radical domestic terrorist group -- but did not note that as president, Clinton's husband pardoned more than a dozen convicted violent radicals, including a member of the same group mentioned in the Obama stories.

"Wonder what the Republicans will do with this issue," mused Clinton spokesman Phil Singer in one e-mail to the media, containing a New York Sun article reporting a $200 contribution from William Ayers, a founding member of the Weather Underground, to Obama in 2001. (Obama's ties to the radical group first surfaced last week in a Bloomberg News article.)

In a separate e-mail, Singer forwarded an article from Politico.com reporting on a 1995 event at a private home that brought Obama together with Ayers and Bernardine Dohrn, another former member of the radical group.

Opting to leave any attacks on the issue to the GOP may be wise, as attacks from Clinton could backfire. In his final day in office, President Clinton pardoned another one-time member of the Weather Underground, Susan L. Rosenberg, after she had served 16 years in prison on federal charges.

Rosenberg had been arrested in 1984 while unloading 740 pounds of dynamite, a submachine gun and other weapons from the back of a car.

Rosenberg admitted the materials were to supply others for politically-motivated attacks. Authorities had been searching for Rosenberg since 1981, for what they believed was her role in the robbery of a Brinks truck in Rockland County, N.Y. The attack, for which Rosenberg was thought to have aided with surveillance and getaway driving, left two police officers and a guard dead.

Rosenberg has denied playing a role in the Brinks heist. In arguing for a pardon in 2001, she noted that she had been a model prisoner.

And in 1999, President Clinton also pardoned 16 violent Puerto Rican nationalists responsible for more than 100 bombings of U.S. political and military installations, after they promised to renounce violence. The attacks reportedly killed six people and wounded dozens more. In justifying the pardons, President Clinton noted none of the men had been convicted of crimes that resulted in death or injuries.

http://abcnews.go.com/print?id=4330128

[JoFerret]

47. For most voters

that is an arcane irrelevancy. At least right now. The GOP will hammer on in the fall.
It will have a second life if Obama is the nominee.
So it is helpful to him to start thinking through how he wants to deal with it.

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[Hepburn]

7. Surprised you thought it to be good at all since Hillary did so poorly.

Are you feeling OK?

[rodeodance]

44. You must get a lot of sand in you nose with your head in the sand all the time.

[Mags]

45. funny joke.

[NDambi]

8. Mass..where is thy rock? lol

[JoFerret]

9. All hype aside - she is a better dissembler

and evader than he is. Important qualities (in a politician).

[LSK]

10. did you read Assault on Reason?

:shrug:

[spanone]

11. dumbest fucking debate ever

[Nitrogenica]

14. MABEL!!! GET ME MAH INTERNETS I GOTS ME THE VAPORS

[Torgo Johnson]

15. The fact that you think Ayres is the key issue in Pennsylvania..

says a whole fucking lot about you and it ain't good.

P.S. Do you seriously think Bill Clinton never had involvment with controversial figures from the 60's?


God, I can't wait for the ignore list to come back.

[ExtraGriz]

16. you forgot bush

he wants his advice too

[Autumn]

33. I missed it but my Daughter

said That Senator Obama would get advice from bush on foreign affairs, He said the elder not the idiot right?

[Colobo]

17. Clinton won't be the nominee. Deal with it.

[Catchawave]

19. She should be, she owned the night n/t

[AtomicKitten]

25. Is "owned the night" the new metric to promote Hillary for a nomination she has already lost?

[rodeodance]

46. She sure did

[jackson_dem]

35. Why can't Obama realize this? Why is he still campaigning against someone who has lost?

What does he know that the "netroots" does not know?

[parasim]

18. Sure it was, if you just loooove the media and it's effin' idiocy.

Hey, to each his (or her's) own, I guess...

[grassfed]

20. Bill Clinton Pardoned William Ayres Coconspiritors.

[merh]

21. and Bill Clinton pardoned some of ayers buds

you do just listen to what you want to hear, don't ya.

[SoxFan]

23. Oh, MassDemm

[L0oniX]

24. Another worthless post ...pffft

[JoFerret]

30. But thank you for kicking it to my attention

.

[BeatleBoot]

26. Great Post MassDem

I didn't see the debate, but based on all of the posts here, I take it Mr. God didn't do well.

Did they expose the anti-Semite views of Pastor Wright and Louis Farrakhan?

Mr. Obama's campaign was over before it started. All of the young ones here weren't around when that crew made history.

[thewiseguy]

27. The guy has not seen the debate yet he is commenting on it!

[Poll_Blind]

32. Typical Clinton supporter, really, isn't it? n/t

PB

[anonymous171]

28. I knew YOU would like it. I bet you didn't like his response though.

[Autumn]

31. I was busy and didn't watch it

but my daughter said that Senator Obama would get foreign policy advice from bush? The elder or the idiot?

[Moochy]

37. YOU TYPED IN THE BIG BOX THATS GOOD! DAMNIT LURLENE! YOU MADE ME POST ALL IN THE LITTLE BOX

[Bonobo]

38. Hey, I'll be having a Schadenfreude part Tuesday night. Wanna come?

On second thought, you might depress the others with your copious weeping.

Maybe you'd better stay at home after all...

[rodeodance]

42. REC