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robbedvoter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-19-04 09:23 AM
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"Lieberman - sensational VP choice in August, underwhelming in October"
Edited on Sat Jun-19-04 09:23 AM by robbedvoter
That was an assessment made about Joementum AT THE TIME OF HIS SELECTION. And to me it stands as further evidence, that impressing the media should NOT be a consideration.
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JI7 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-19-04 09:26 AM
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1. he was the first Jewish person on a national major party ticket
which was a big thing. there was a certain "broken barriers" thing to it. and it appealed not only to jews but almost all minorities except for arabs and muslims who voted for bush.

but gore's pick had more to do with lieberman's status as a "moral leader" since he was trying to get away from clinton.
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wjsander Donating Member (262 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-19-04 09:30 AM
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2. This is a new age...
A lot more people are "connected" than 4 years ago. A lot more people care than 4 years ago.

Public opinion and momentum actually DO mean something now and are fragile things. Best not to fudge with it.
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malatesta1137 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-19-04 09:34 AM
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3. He was a bad choice, it turned out
He bought Gore no votes, being from a solid blue state. Plus the guy is a Republican sell-out.
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JI7 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-19-04 10:35 AM
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7. i think he helped Gore in Florida
remember, gore lost the cuban american votes by a huge amount but he still won florida. the only thing that hurt was the fraud and things like the butterfly ballots. but the exit polls were correct when it said gore had won florida.

how many people who aren't lying would say those jewish senior citizens did want to vote for buchanan?
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malatesta1137 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-19-04 08:24 PM
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10. I can't see how Lieberman
helped Gore in Florida. But you are right about him definitely winning it, the exit polls were correct.
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wjsander Donating Member (262 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-19-04 08:31 PM
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12. Ha, Yeah!
Even Buchanan said they weren't for him.
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2Design Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-19-04 10:27 AM
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4. he was a mistake and I thought so right away.....not a good choice
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pansypoo53219 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-19-04 10:28 AM
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5. he was the WRONG jew.
Gore would have won easdy with Feingold on the ticket. and russ is way cuter.
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SlingBlade Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-19-04 10:28 AM
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6. FUCKING LIeberman Liberals
Cheney made this guy look like a Jack Ass, But that’s not what really bothered me, What bothered me is the fact that he didn't care if Cheney made him look like a Jack Ass.


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bushwakker Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-19-04 11:45 AM
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9. He loved being the Evil One's Boy Toy
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bushwakker Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-19-04 11:44 AM
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8. Gore would be prez today if he had picked
say Bradley, Gephardt or Richardson.
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Skwmom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-19-04 08:29 PM
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11. I hope in this case, history will not repeat itself. e/o/m
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dolstein Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-19-04 11:31 PM
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13. Wishful revisionist thinking from the usual Lieberman bashing suspects
Edited on Sat Jun-19-04 11:31 PM by dolstein
The Gore campaign was on life support when he tapped Lieberman to be his running mate. As Gore himself has admitted, choosing Lieberman was the best decision he made during the campaign. It brought about the only period of sustained positive media coverage Gore received.

As for October, it's hard to imagine Gore being as competitive in Florida as he was without Lieberman. People around here assume that Gore would have carried some other state if he hadn't bothered with Florida. But the fact is that Gore turned to Florida after his own polls showed states like West Virginia and Tennessee slipping away.
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zulchzulu Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-19-04 11:35 PM
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14. "sensational", my ass
Edited on Sat Jun-19-04 11:39 PM by zulchzulu
I knew Lieberman was going to be a drag on the ticket. He's ugly, he's a Repug in disguise and his nauseating whiney voice and "holier than thou" 'tude made it embarrassing to defend Gore. It was hard enough defending Al, but man...Lieberman...WTF.

He really sucked in the debates with Cheney too.

Oh, and his damn name was too long on the bumper sticker. Let's keep VP names to 7 letters or less.
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robbedvoter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-20-04 12:32 PM
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15. For those who missed the obvious: Joe gave away the debate to Cheney
Edited on Sun Jun-20-04 12:33 PM by robbedvoter
Joe gave away the election when declaring that phony military votes were OK
Joe attacked Gore - worst of all saying: He LOST because he was a populist.
Most of these actions revealed that Joe's personal ambition was supreme.
I find it extremely revealing that Edwards supporters embrace Joe.
Frankly I expected you guys to rebutt me: "That's nothing like our guy".
Thanks for opening my eyes as to who is propping Edwards on DU. (except for Dolstein, everyone surprised me)
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chimpymustgo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-20-04 12:36 PM
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16. Edwards supporters embrace Joe??? WTF. You better show some ID.
This is moving from the ridiculous to the absurd.
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