I see O supporters have entered stage 3 of: "Pennsylvania? We have a problem."

[Clintonista2]

Stage one was to deny there was a problem. This stage began with the belief that it would all just "blow over," as the previous media honeymoon with Obama has usually resulted in a refusal to report on Obama gaffes. This stage can be perfectly represented on DU, through threads with titles such as "Obama is a genius... the bitter comment is brilliant," which were common at the onset of this fiasco.

Stage two was deflection en masse, induced by panic, and began soon after Obama gave his disingenuous apology. How could Obama supporters reconcile their previous denial, with their leaders' open confession of wrong-doing? Due to extreme panic, Obama supporters began to incoherently attempt to deflect the issue, typically by bringing up either Bosnia or Clinton's 5 year old IWR vote. A simple search of the word "Bosnia" in the GDP forum brings 132 hits in the past two days. "Sniper" gets 223 hits in the past two days.

Stage three (it is currently unclear whether or not this is the final stage), is extreme, uncontrollable anger. This can be characterized through the generic "Why didn't the (insert sexist slur here) just drop out? Now we're going to lose to Mccain!" threads. In the minds of most Obama supporters, it is Clinton who is responsible for Obama's latest gaffe. This results in a "how dare this woman stand against the inevitable?" mentality, as anger is misdirected away from the "gaffe-creator" (Obama)toward the traditional, "common enemy" (Clinton).

[GarbagemanLB]

1. Nothing to see here, just another Hillbot lashing out in frustration their candidate has lost...

[NDambi]

7. Yep. It's the pain that propels them...lol..they know Hilda is done..

[JoFerret]

54. Keep repeating those r/w slurs

...they are a credit to your imagination, common sense and allegiance.

[JoFerret]

55. I should say

it cut a bit near to your bone.

[marmar]

2. Repetez en anglais, s'il vous plait.....

:wtf:

[Hepburn]

8. So you think it would spell better in French???

:rofl:

[Clintonista2]

38. To quote one of your fellow Obama supporters down below...

If a spelling error is all you've got, then you're in trouble ;D

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=132&topic_id=5501284&mesg_id=5501610

[Warren DeMontague]

60. Right, and he was responding to someone grousing about how Obama's NAMES are "objectionable".

So let's clarify- it's not just spelling errors, it's bullshit, obviously manufactured phony outrage, some shit the guy's PREACHER said, that he once wore a turban but not a flag pin, that hateful prius-driving latte drinkers support him, and that he has... wait for it!... "objectionable names"...

...this, it seems, is all that's left of whatever Camp Hillary was basing their once "inevitable" drive towards the nomination on.

In other words, y'all are running on fumes, and the little gas tank light is on.

How long? Not long.

[islandmkl]

3. yeah...I am all distressed that Barack DARED to TELL the TRUTH...

i personally wouldn't want that characteristic in my President...

[leftofcool]

4. Stage 4.........

Obama people are making calls to see how this is playing out with voters. Just saw this in another thread.

[Hepburn]

5. Spell check is your friend.

Learn to use it...:eyes:

It's Pennsylvania, OK? It comes from a combination of William Penn's last name and the Latin word for forest.

[Clintonista2]

10. Thanks! Done.

[Faygo Kid]

12. Exactly. Of course, Jack Daniels is your friend, too.

Which I suspect is more the case here.

[Clintonista2]

48. Heartburn needs some hard liquor to wash down the taste of bullshit

that flows from her mouth.

[RUMMYisFROSTED]

73. Crown Royal is your friend.

Panderliscious!

[Texas Hill Country]

6. k&r

[Lucinda]

9. Yup.

Sounds about right.

[Symarip]

11. What's your guys' theme song?

"I smoke two joints in the morning, I smoke two joints at night...."

[rox63]

13. I've never actually expected Obama to win PA

But I still think he'll win the nomination.

[LSparkle]

14. Why did she choose to go after HIM, instead of agreeing?

If there IS no bitterness out there, then why don't we just turn the White House
keys over to Bomb Bomb McSame?

She had the opportunity to agree with Obama and reinforce the idea that the economic
policies of the past 8 years have bankrupted the middle class, have caused disparities
between rich and poor -- this is RED MEAT FOR THE DEMOCRATIC BASE! Yet she parrots
"elitist and out-of-touch" as if reading from a Limpballs script ... Makes me wonder
if she's really a Democrat anymore ... What's next, the "America for Clinton" Party???

[Hoof Hearted]

59. Because it was a MONUMENTALY STUPID THING TO SAY. Don't you get that yet?

Seriously? Even Skinner gets it.

[comradebillyboy]

77. becaues she running against him

duh, not everybody is an Obama cheerleader.

[ProSense]

15. Um

pathetic

[BeyondGeography]

16. What stage are you in regarding The End of Hillary?

[NeedleCast]

17. Meanwhile, Hillary Supporters Are Stuck in the Denial Stage

It's still over, regardless of what Camp Hillary wants to believe.

[bowens43]

18. A win in Pa for Obama was never expected nor is it needed.

Won't won't happen is a win by 30% for hillary. That's what she needs to go on to the next primary.
It's over for hillary

[MoonRiver]

19. At what stage does this happen to Obamaton heads?

[Major Hogwash]

20. What is Hillary's campaign motto these days? "Hoping for a gaffe by the other guy"?

Man, that's pure genius.

Of course, it helps that the MSM wants to prolong the Dem race as long as they can.
Which is why they don't say much about Clinton's Bosnia fantasy.

[girl gone mad]

21. Isn't this most recent "outrage" lacking something?

Say... people who are actually outraged by it? And I don't mean the Hillary supporters feigning their disgust all over the intertubes.

[Hepburn]

22. Seems like they left the word "gate" off the end of this one.

Maybe they turned a corner?? :shrug:

[jackson_dem]

23. Lirwin

:thumbsup:

[Road Scholar]

24. Lirwin2, you have a hell of an imagination. Have you ever thought

of writing for Hollywood. What you wrote here is pure Bullshit.

[Clintonista2]

28. Well then maybe I could work as an Obama speechwriter.

[Hepburn]

Better go with Hillary....

...that is where the bullshit is.

[smalll]

25. You have it. It's said to see DU this way though --

Back at the end of last year, DU was NOT Obama City. If I remember correctly, Edwards and Kucinich generally had the bulk of the supporters here. Obama and Hillary were also represented, but so was everyone else -- we had our Bidenites and Richardians, even Doddies.

I guess most of the people here eventually migrated over to Obama, which is their right. But at this point, shouldn't these people be able to see that their SECOND CHOICE -- Barack -- has made himself unelectable?

So they don't like Hillary. OK. I myself will admit wholeheartedly that Snipergate was BAD.

But there IS A THIRD OPTION: vote Hillary to even this thing out. Go to the Convention. GET TO A SECOND BALLOT. PICK SOMEONE ELSE. Gore. Biden. (Webb? Bayh? Who else? The options are almost limitless...)

[smiley_glad_hands]

29. Barrack is unelectable?

You sound like a loyal repub.

[smalll]

32. Yes he his. (Funny how even a supporter has trouble spelling the least objectionable of his names.)

I think it's supposed to be "Barack." (It IS a tough one to spell though.)

[smiley_glad_hands]

35. If spelling is the best you got your in trouble. eom

[nebula]

40. Wrong.

Hillary does worse against McCain in National polling.

Which makes her unelectable.


www.pollster.com

[smalll]

42. Maybe, just maybe, they're BOTH unelectable.

Maybe we need an open convention. Maybe we need Al Gore, or Joe Biden (Or Webb, or anyone else you might name.)

DISCLAIMER: I am not renouncing Hillary in this post. I am just trying to make the point to Obama supporters that they do not have to jettison their low opinions of her to be able to accept their own candidate's severe (if not fatal) flaws.

[smiley_glad_hands]

44. He's got more votes. Thats what counts not your feeble opinion.

Mind you, I would love it if Gore had ran again.

[cali]

46. Pathetically, hopelessly, stunningly stupid post.

A brokered and deadlocked convention resulting in party insiders throwing out millions of vctes and installing a white male, is the surest way to President McCain. And neither Hillary or Barack is unelectable. And if it did happen, I'll be one of the milions protesting and I fucking well won't vote. Way to unite Hill and Obama supporters.

Oh, and no way on earth will it happen. Nor was snipergate all that awful.

[JoFerret]

57. Really?

There are so many to choose from. Why this one?

[Clintonista2]

58. Own a mirror hun?

[nebula]

26. She has done Obama a favor!

The graph shows a downtrend in recent days in Hillary's standing in PA.
it also shows Obama's numbers are still going up as of 04/13/08.

It shows Hillary's latest attacks have backfired on her, but had no effect on Obama.

[Clintonista2]

30. Looks like someone is stuck in stage one

The fact that it's you, of all people, doesn't surprise me in the slightest.

[nebula]

39. Hillary has only succeeded in swiftboating herself

The fact is,

her latest attacks have backfired in a big way.

[smiley_glad_hands]

27. Hill was suppose to win Pa all along. Another attempt to move the goalposts by hill supporters. eom

[azmouse]

31. Did Frasier Crane die and leave you his practice?

:eyes:

[Bensthename]

33. Ummm, Obama has overcome a 26 point lead by Billary. Try again.

[AllentownJake]

34. I'm not worried

There are two Clintons with cameras on them constantly. Its only a small matter of time before one of them makes up a story so crazy that it makes this look silly.

Thanks for your concern though

[nichomachus]

36. Where is your degree from?

The Bill First School of Quack Diagnosis?

[2rth2pwr]

37. Excellent observation.

[kwenu]

41. I can't wait for stage four: Obama becomes the Democratic Nominee.

[Jersey Devil]

43. Deflection? Bill Clinton was the one who brought Bosnia up again

He started talking about it late last week when he basically explained that Hillary was a forgetful old woman.

[Seabiscuit]

75. No one anywhere cares about that any more, thanks to Obama's progressive hoof-in-mouth disease.

[cooolandrew]

45. If Obama as our nominee is a problem I'll take that.=)

[Zodiak]

47. Argument by search engine is not acceptable evidence

That's something Ann Coulter does.

I find it tremendously ironic that Obama makes mention of the bitterness in rural America because their jobs have gone overseas and their communities have eroded, and the proponent of NAFTA leads the charge defending the common man from Obama's "insults". We all know who the populist is between the two, and it is NOT the person who heads up a leadership position in the DLC and belongs to a "prayer" group whose basis seems to be the divine right of kings.

This whole issue smacks of bullshit, and if it does any damage, it was completely contrived. It is not something new in politics, but the fact that it is a Democrat doing it to another Democrat (it was her supporter who filmed it and pressed the issue) is disgusting.

It is the DLC that has been telling us for years to just vote for the D....not matter how odious. They destroyed Howard Dean over a friggin 5 second sound-byte of a "yell". Then they and their ilk shit all over Ned Lamont's campaign because he's too "liberal"....and now they are going after Obama saying he is an "elitist" and a "snob".

I hope that my fellow DUers finally see how destructive this group is....these DLCers.

[Bensthename]

49. Nah, polls and momentum is back in Obama's favor. So it's cool. Thanks though.

[merbex]

50. Stage 3 could also be called a form of "projection" because when unable to express

anger at the ( what most would call) appropriate target they project their anger onto a "safer" target.

[Bonobo]

51. What does fighting on DU have to do with Obama having a problem?

Your just another person who confuses these things.

Obama is doing great in Pennsylvania.

If there are angry posters on DU, it matters not one bit.

You're umm, weeeeird.

[Clintonista2]

52. Reading comprehension

"O SUPPORTERS". Read the title over again, and then click the link in my sig. Good luck.

[Bonobo]

53. As I thought, "virtual BBS battles" are WAAAY more important to you than the outside world. Buh-bye.

[smiley_glad_hands]

56. Are you trying to move the goalpoasts again? Is that you Mark? eom

[SeaLyons]

61. K&R

Great post. The obvious pattern of the Obama supporters.

[PoliticalAmazon]

62. Are you kidding? Only 20 of Hillary's "100 Mayor" event showed up. Houston, YOU have a problem. n/t

[GoldieAZ49]

63. Well the Obama supporters readily admit they are bitter

left no doubt about that

so much for the 'uniter'

The great divide in the party was not enough, he had to insult all of middle America


nothing like getting the voters you are trying to sway to dig in their heels against you. Very eloquent.

Maybe he can give a speech on Guns, God, Bigotry, Immigration and Bitterness.

[Cameron27]

64. Brilliant!

:thumbsup:

[dchill]

65. depressed? amorYn can help...

[golddigger]

66. Excellent...

:thumbsup:

[AtomicKitten]

67. Obama's delegate lead is insurmountable and you are officially spinning your wheels.

[comradebillyboy]

76. It will be insurmountable when he has a majority

of the delegates. Hillary won't lay down and die like Gore and Kerry, she's a fighter not a quitter. If Big O can't beat a girl, McCrazy will hand him his ass. Obama just can't close the deal. He's just another smooth talking snake oil salesman who peddles hope like Benny Hinn peddles salivation. And the MSM loves McCain a lot more than Obama. When they are done trashing Hillary the corporate media will turn on saint Barak in a heartbeat.

[Terran]

68. Good lord, project much? n/t

[Seabiscuit]

69. Right on the money ...

Your link at the bottom of your post made me :rofl:

[CreekDog]

70. first you feed and clothe yourself and now you have mastered typing

:applause:

[indimuse]

71. k&R!

..

[Orsino]

72. I think I'm eagerly awaiting the results...

...and I suspect I'm not the one with the problem.

[AllentownJake]

74. I've reached stage 4

Putting you on my ignore list :-)

Have a nice life

[mcctatas]

78. Ya know...

I'm in stage 3.5, I feel empathy for the clinton supporters, I know how awful I would feel if my candidate kept borrowing hannity's talking points and still managing to lose support, it must be hard, I will send peaceful hope beams in your direction...

[TheDonkey]

79. Total unmitigated bullshit

but if that is what it takes for you to sleep at night. Cheers.

[rodeodance]

80. yup--that describes your post to the T!!