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futureliveshere Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-14-08 10:07 AM
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Why we look with BITTERNESS at the Hillary Clinton campaign!!!
This is a great article that talks about why we as democrats should look at Hillary Clinton's campaign with considerable contempt. The emphasis below is mine, but I think in that one bold line the author captures the essence of the difference between the two candidates and the campaigns. Read on.

I have always been a supporter of Barack's, but not always a detractor of Hillary's. There was a time when I said, "she would be a very good candidate, and I would be happy to support her in her campaign for the Presidency". As the primary season began, that soon changed, from a general dislike to, yes, a pure bitterness about her candidacy in general.

I've spent months trying to figure out exactly why she has made me so bitter about her campaign. Yes, I could so easily point to her sense of entitlement, or to her outright lying concerning NAFTA and Bosnia. Yes, I could so easily argue the fact that she is clearly losing, and has been for a long time, but seems unwilling to back down for the good of the party. Yes, I could so easily talk about how she's a generally divisive figure, or about how she constantly moves the goal posts, or even about her praising her Republican rival over her Democratic one, saying McCain, unlike Obama, has passed the "Commander-in-Chief threshold", whatever that may be, and whatever that may truly signify. But none of that gets to, what I believe, is the heart of why I have become such a true detractor of hers. It does not pinpoint why I have absolutely become disenchanted with her campaign, though every thing I mentioned (and more) is a piece of it.

Truly, what I have seen, is that Hillary's campaign has been run, almost completely, on the basis of "Barack Obama is worse than I am, thus, I should be President", rather than "I am better than Barack, thus, I should be President". Please take a moment to think about this distinction, because I think it is a crucial one. I have realized that, instead of playing into her own merits, and why they are better than her rival, she has played into his shortcomings, and why they make him worse. This is a fatal issue, I believe, because Barack Obama has done the exact opposite. He has almost entirely, and very consistently, focused on what makes him better than her.

This entire issue over the word "bitter" has, for me, brought this into the open. Whereas Hillary could have left his statement for what it is, and left it after Barack explained what he meant, she instead decided to focus on why such a word is detrimental to him. Why, I ask, is it not possible for Hillary to win on her own merits? Why is it that she must clutch at straws in order to win? Why doesn't her own personality, her own policies and abilities, speak for themselves?

There have been numerous times in which Barack could have jumped on Clinton for mistakes she made. He did not. Not nearly to the extent to which she has against him. He did not draw out Hillary's lying concerning the sniper fire. He did not immediately, and has not continued to rail on her for not only ever having Mark Penn in her campaign, but for keeping him there despite his obvious issues. He could have. He could have easily played into her game and turned the focus from why he's better than she, to why she's worse than he. But he didn't.

The integrity involved in such a thing speaks worlds to me about why Obama is the right choice. I have read and heard myriad explanations as to why people support him. I am by no means saying my explanation is perfect, but it is something I have noticed, and I can only hope I'm not the only one who has.


The link to the article is here: http://tpmcafe.talkingpointsmemo.com/talk/2008/04/hillary-clinton-bitterness-tow.php

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0007 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-14-08 10:10 AM
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1. Very good! bttft and reconmemed.
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PVnRT Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-14-08 10:12 AM
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2. K&R
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papau Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-14-08 10:12 AM
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3. Some see Obama's campaign as playing race card to "consolidate base" plus smears and saying
one thing in speeches and another in private.

And see Hillary as the one that will bring real change while Obama is a con job that will do as he has promised in those revealed "private" statements - namly very little compared to Hillary.

View Obama's "campaign with considerable contempt" perhaps, but it is more that the Hillary folks want change we can trust.
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futureliveshere Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-14-08 10:16 AM
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8. Here's a letter from a 'bitter' person who attended the fund-raiser
This is what you will find about the private and public parts:

http://tpmcafe.talkingpointsmemo.com/talk/2008/04/bitter-email-from-an-attendee.php

Lets also not forget which campaign unofficially contacted the Canadian mission and spun the NAFTA doublespeak.
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Deep13 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-14-08 10:12 AM
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4. H did not lie about NAFTA and at worst was mistaken about...
...the arrival at Bosnia. That was not the main point of her remarks on that anyway. Obama's whole campaign is a lie. He's a typical, centrist, pro-corporate candidate who is promising revolutionary change with no way to deliver it.
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Hepburn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-14-08 10:16 AM
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7. "....at worst mistaken about Bosnia..."
If that was a mistake, then she is IMO in the early stages of Alzheimer's.

:eyes:
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futureliveshere Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-14-08 10:19 AM
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9. Can you support your ridiculous claims or shall i just ignore you?
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NJmaverick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-14-08 10:14 AM
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5. That is a pretty good take on things
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futureliveshere Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-14-08 10:34 AM
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12. Its the second fundamental difference to me. That and competence.
Edited on Mon Apr-14-08 10:34 AM by futureliveshere
The worst part is she is not even good at slinging mud.
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MethuenProgressive Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-14-08 10:14 AM
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6. From link: "I have always been a supporter of Barack's, "
Another elitist standing with BO above the peasantry.
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futureliveshere Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-14-08 10:20 AM
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10. I was wondering when you would arrive MP. Welcome!!!
:hi:
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MethuenProgressive Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-14-08 10:39 AM
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13. I installed DU's BullChitDetector 2.0. Lead me right here!
:hi:
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futureliveshere Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-14-08 10:50 AM
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14. Oops I think like Hillary's campaign that detector too has stopped working..
Its starting to confuse friends from foes. Please install the latest version which should be fine. If not I can troubleshoot it for you. What say MP?
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meow mix Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-14-08 10:20 AM
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11. K&R
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