I'm confused. Is the MSM trying to "CONVINCE" PA to be upset or ...

[quantass]

From channel to channel I get the impression the MSM is trying to provoke a reaction from PA citzens. Almost as if they're trying to brainwash "sheep" into some predictable outcome. WTF. I've seen some PA posters here and videos of their citizens and have yet to hear an individual upset by Obama's bitter statement. I've only heard praise for his truth and insight. But from the media i hear "how is he going to get out of this", "worst than wright", "huge blunder". 2*WTF. He spoke the truth! Am i going insane or in deep REM sleep?!?

We'll see which is mightier, personal intelligence or media brainwash.

[blm]

1. They are forcefeeding outrage - as they did with the swiftlies and the dropped pronoun.

They are likely being encouraged by both GOP and Dem powerplayers to blow it up into a huge controversy. They really believe the American people can still be fooled.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dk1k0nUWEQg

[ShortnFiery]

10. Exactly! They are TWISTING the hard truths to focus "false outrage" at Obama.

Joe Scarborough is so livid it's almost comical. :crazy:

[Mezzo]

13. Or there are some people who were really offended. nt

[blm]

16. Really offended at WHAT? What his words were SPUN into? Got a purple band-aid?

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[RUMMYisFROSTED]

2. Scarbrow used the word "crisis" this morning.

:rofl:

[Tom Rinaldo]

3. Yes they force feed outrage

They did it over "snipergate" also. They do it over any controversy that ensnares a Democrat. Sometimes it sticks better than other times, for various reasons.

[BeyondGeography]

14. They dropped SniperGate after three days

and we're already on Day 4 of WhateverGate. It's certain to last the entire week. PastorGate lasted two weeks.

Hillary's supporters like to claim she gets a tougher deal from the media; we are again being reminded that this isn't true.

[BumRushDaShow]

18. Right. They didn't even let Columbiagate go 2 days before they picked up Bittergate. n/t

[Tom Rinaldo]

25. The theme of "Clinton fatigue" is an endless media loop.

The hash of 15 years of Right wing attacks on both Clintons has been boiled down to a toxic essence and fed us as a constant morphine drip. Bookbaggate, something like that isn't even possible to raise with a straight face against anyone other than a Clinton. It makes it harder for anything new to carry the shock level needed to give it legs beyond three days. But they always push it as far as they can. Good old Keith is always on the lookout for fresh outrage.

[Life Long Dem]

22. You don't know what the hell your talking about.

They tried to sweep snipergate under the carpet with a shop vac. They put away the fuzz buster and pulled out the shop vac on that one.

[Tom Rinaldo]

26. Are you honestly making the argument that the media has shown a pro-Clinton bias?

Since January 2007, comparing Obama and Clinton's coverage, the main stream media has shilled for Hill? Seriously, is that your position?

[knixphan]

39. they have a pro-horserace bias.

[npincus]

4. they seem to be playing to the FAUX crowd.

Damn them!

[JerseygirlCT]

5. Sure, they thrive on conflict, and will create it themselves if

they deem it necessary to do so.

[Apollo11]

6. Was Obama really speaking "The Truth"?

Or was he trying to generalize and over-simplify a complex situation by falling back on old stereotypes?

"You go into some of these small towns in Pennsylvania, and like a lot of small towns in the Midwest, the jobs have been gone now for 25 years and nothing's replaced them. And they fell through the Clinton administration, and the Bush administration, and each successive administration has said that somehow these communities are gonna regenerate and they have not. So it's not surprising then that they get bitter, they cling to guns or religion or antipathy to people who aren't like them or anti-immigrant sentiment or anti-trade sentiment as a way to explain their frustrations."

www.huffingtonpost.com/mayhill-fowler/obama-no-surprise-that-ha_b_96188.html

Notice how Obama did not say that "some get bitter". He said "they get bitter". He mis-spoke. Admit it!

[ShortnFiery]

12. Oh, he left out "some" is that it?!? Yet HRC outright *makes up shit* and we give her a pass?

How convenient for Hill and Bill that it is only "a double standard" when the focus is on their MIS-STATEMENTS? :eyes:

[quantass]

46. Thank you for saying this

[AlinPA]

7. You got it. Here in PA my sense is that Obama's "Annie Oakley & Hillary in the duck blind"

speech is a home run. Hell, even people in my Sportsmen's Club are laughing their ass off at her and and didn't take any of his comments negatively. Some said "damn right we're bitter about sending jobs over seas".

edit for spelling

[HereSince1628]

8. The media is in the business of selling ad time. Sizzles sells.

Coverage (Promotion) of clashes within any party is what brings viewers.

If it wasn't petty BS between HC and BO they'd be pushing tornado season,the threat of the REALLY BIG ONE coming off the Oregon coast, or the return of death asteroids.

BTW...did you notice national coverage of mother who commited murder/suicide by drowning?

[crankychatter]

9. Yo, Canada... ever considered unilaterally invading and liberating?

just a thought

you could start by commandeering the fucking networks for me?

Put Amy Goodman up there.... lol.

[baldguy]

23. Welcome Canadian Overlords!

God save the Queen!

[CTyankee]

11. The MSM are in their ivory towers with blinders on.

They are willfully ignoring what is going on in this country. On GMA today, George S. seemed AMAZED that the two Dem candidates could talk with ease about religion! He said Dems have had problems talking about religion in their own lives in the past, as if there was something "wrong" with Dems as opposed to "regular" Americans! What stupid garbage!

[dailykoff]

15. Prelude to a heist.

They do this every time -- find a phony peg to hang a stolen election on. In NH it was the tears, in 2004 it was values voters, etc.

[BumRushDaShow]

17. Yes. The media loves Clinton

and needs for her to win so McCain will blow her away in November. They must support this nonsensical "he said, she said" manufactured outrage to get the election back to their pre-planned strategy.

[Symarip]

19. Sometimes we think that the MSM is on one side or the other

in any given contest, but the MSM is on their own side: the side the strives on ratings (sans Fox News. Who knows what the fuck they're up to). If this contest ends, there's nothing to replace it. No more debates to tune into, no more bullshit commentary to dish, no more soundbites for us to digest. Every time one candidate is down, they tear down the other in hopes of keeping this thing going.

With regards to Clinton, they never actually mention the math. They just say, it's tough for her or her chances are slim. Tough for her? It's nearly impossible for her to win. But they never actually pull up the numbers and say, look she'd have to blow away the next contests by 20 points to even be viable. Statistically speaking, this contest is over and as I've mentioned before, even as a Barrak supporter I'd still pull the lever for Clinton. I don't hate her, I'm just looking at the numbers at the 2 minute warning and no time outs left. Of course, it's not just Senator Clinton they favor at the moment. Think about how many non-story 'stories' these guys shotgun down your throat. Here's a short list:

Was Clinton really crying?
Is Obama really Black?
What's with those pantsuits?
John Edwards, what's with that guy?
How close is Reverend Wright to Obama?
Chelsea Clinton answered a Monica Lewinsky question!!!! (OMFG STOP THE PRESSES)
Are they going to run a unity ticket????? (This is the biggest bullshit story of all)

They never talk about McLame because he's about as exciting as an insurance seminar.

So it is not in their best interest that this contest is over. In the end, everyone loses and they win regardless of who our nominee will be, and ultimately who takes the Oval Office.

[high density]

20. Obviously

This offended by proxy stuff that the media is running with is outrageous. The same crap went on in 2004 and obviously it's just getting worse now. It's like everybody on TV news is becoming a Howard Beal, except they are outraged about the silliest non-issues while the nation crumbles around them.

[Life Long Dem]

21. All over the internet the answer is there to the meaning of what Obama said.

But similar to the Kerry joke, MSM and Clinton camp ignore the truth and continue to say Obama called "them" bitter. They won't even look at where the bitterness is coming from. And it is for sure not coming from Obama.

[southern_belle]

24. It sure sounds like it.

:shrug:

[FightingIrish]

27. It's called "outrage on demand"

Hillary's people decide what to be outraged about and the MSM complies.

[Skidmore]

28. The media is treating this primary like another reality show.

I'm surprised they don't have phone lines set aside for people to vote on a weekly basis. Like a bad rendition of "Brasil."

[SeaLyons]

29. Do you ask those questions of the media

while they continually push negatives about the Clintons. Is it just a problem when it appears the media are being negative towards Obama?

Personal intelligence will win out in the end, and Hillary will get the nomination.

[quantass]

47. Lest we forget Hillary BLATANTLY Lies to the people repeatedly!!

Please dont defend her since it is quite easy to list several of them on a whim and you know it

[Adelante]

30. Yes, it's what they do

That and they like being played for suckers by the Clinton campaign :shrug:

[bklyncowgirl]

31. The media is the gatekeeper for corporate America--or maybe they're just after ratings.

On one hand it's easy to believe that the media is following the dictates of some elitist corporate agenda. I follow that line myself when I'm not believing the other line which is that the media loves to drive controversy in order to boost ratings.

Let's just say that Barack Obama wins or comes close enough to Hillary Clinton in Pennsylvannia to singe Hillary's feathers and also trounces her in North Carolina and Indiana. The Democratic primary is over. The party elders will deliver the coup de grace to Hillary Clinton. But this divisive primary has been good for cable news ratings. Americans are actually watching the primary debates. If they can take down Obama a peg or two Hillary wins and the game continues.

It makes sense.

Maybe that's what's happening...or maybe the media is playing it's traditional job as gatekeeper for corporate America. Could it be that Obama, by saying that many ordinary people are bitter over the situation that corporate America has created and which has benefited the wealthy elites greatly, has uttered one of the unspeakable truths about this country that must never be uttered by any candidate who wishes to be taken seriously by the chattering classes.

It was rich listening to people like George Will, a man who I am positive has never set foot in a blue collar tavern much less knocked back a few brewskis with factory workers, natter on about how Barack Obama is an elitist liberal and will be destroyed by the oh so genuine John McCain.

What they do realize is that an Obama vs McCain contest will bring up the question of wealth and class--particularly John McCain's. HIllary ain't going there. In that way she is safe for them.

The powers that be don't want these questions raised and for that reason Barack Obama must be destroyed.

Or maybe they're just after ratings.

[DaveT]

34. Both -- ratings and keeping the gate safe from the rabble

The corporate entities that own the mainstream media outlets do not try to control every little detail that their media properties put out. And the handful of companies do compete with each other for audience and advertising revenue, in the same way that Ford competes with GM.

But I do not see how any rational human being can fail to understand that these corporations use their media holdings to further their own interests. It would be a violation of their duty to their stockholders NOT to manipulate the "news."

Luckily for the future of our Republic, TV news ratings have been on a long steady decline for decades and that trend is irreversible. The handful of print platforms with national distribution are also on the decline in this electronic age. The power that goes with owning a national distribution system for "news content" is shrinking rapidly.

As the corporate voices desparately cling to their diminishing power to define the national political conversation by their editorial decisions, hyping the stupid flap of the week is their method of choice to prevent politicians from tapping into the real bitterness and resentment that seethes across our citizenry.

Obama has TV talent like Reagan and B. Clinton -- he may have even more than either of them. He understands the secret of television which is never let them see you sweat. As these silly topics come and go, Obama continues to expand his public identity, with his stature growing larger and larger with each ludicrous affair.


I was not an Obama supporter, and I still have a lot of skepticism about what he will actually try to do as President. But he is a political talent that has the ability to complete the transition from the Age of Television to the Age of the Internet.

The talking heads do not appreciate that and they will do their best to keep him from succeeding.

[Catherine Vincent]

32. You are correct.

The media is stirring the pot. Even DUers are falling for it.

[PVnRT]

33. Sure seems that way

The media is determined to get outraged comments and have a controversy to drive up ratings.

[quantass]

35. .

[2rth2pwr]

36. You're doing it too, calling the citizens of PA "sheep" capable of being brainwashed.

Of course you can't see how they would be insulted.

[quantass]

48. Oh i'm sure MSM is worried about my "god-like" influence over PA ...:roll eyes:

:crazy:

[2rth2pwr]

49. You have the exact same elitist view that will doom any chances in the general.

If you're from Canada, it's no biggie.

[knixphan]

37. trying sooo hard to wag that dog...

[SoCalDem]

38. Media Assassination in action

They decided that he's too "dangerous" to issues that concern media..

McCain gets a pass when he cannot even identify who we are fighting in a multi-trillion dollar war, but Obama DARES to tell the truth, and he's eeeeeevil..

If they get their way, we will see the end of the democratic party as we know it..

No matter what the pollsters say, there is a SIGNIFICANT group of people who will NEVER vote for Her Royal Highness and she cannot win without them..

Mccain wins by default and we have a splintered, angry party..

[knixphan]

40. or...

we wake up.

[SoCalDem]

43. and the people in all the forgotten towns with no jobs

remain forgotten..

I guess they deserve it, right?

[OnionPatch]

41. On another thread, someone said he's being "Deaned"

and I agree. They take something they perceive as negative and just pound on it relentlessly over and over on every station.

Our democracy is failing because of the concentrated power of the mass media. Very sad.

[Tribetime]

42. thats what I thought th 1st night on CNN

it seems they are trying to force it. Could it be cnn msnbc have major drug companies advertising every other commercial, who don't want Obama to win?

[cooolandrew]

44. Well I have encouraged many many folk to turn off MSM so probably that helps. =)....

Our real friends are novamradio.com and headonradionetwork.com There is the real truth plus olberman we'll et the talking heads do theirthing. MSM is just light entertainment really. (except olberman).

[Orsino]

45. Sure--but mostly they're trying to fill air time.

Without the thrice-weekly out-of-context quote to pimp, they might have to start covering real stories. Instead, they only have to manage the election like an American Idol season.