Why are DU's Hillary supporters allowed to engage in Freeper-like tactics without consequence?

[Unsane]

Anyone else wondering this? At least ten threads on the front page are right out of Free Republic. "Obama is an elitist," "Obama is not good for working class people," "the McGovernization of Obama!!" etc. WTF happened to this place. Nobody is saying you can't support another candidate, but when all you're doing is throwing around spurious, false RW attacks, you become indistinguishable from the other side.

Say hello to President McSame, you fools.

[mbperrin]

1. "You fools" is not freeperish, however.

Right?

[Unsane]

2. Anyone who helps elect McCain is a fool.

[mbperrin]

8. And who would that be?

Surely supporting someone not McCain can't qualify as helping elect McCain, can it?

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[Jed Dilligan]

4. Definitely not as much as "elitist"

"You fools" could be found on any rancorous discussion board, even if the topic was World of Warcraft.

But freeps have been accusing Democrats of "elitism" for years.

[humbled_opinion]

37. Hey, I happen to

Love Playing WOW...., lol

[JohnnyLib2]

3. What are you looking at? Seriously, I don't see that.

??

[leftofcool]

5. I don't usually read stuff from Freeperville so I wouldn't know

They tend to be pretty depressing over there........they say things like Democrats are sick angry bitter people. Makes me want to just smack them down, so I try to stay away from there.

[Forkboy]

6. There's some pretty trashy shit getting posted by both sides.

:shrug:

[jgraz]

36. Nice pic, Forky, but I miss Mini-Godzilla

That always made me chuckle when I saw it.

[Forkboy]

72. He'll be back.

It makes me chuckle too. :)

[Bensthename]

7. At this point. Supporting Hillary is as good as supporting McSame.

[Unsane]

10. yep

[Tom Rinaldo]

35. So much for whatever point you are trying to make with your OP

Agreeing that supporting Clinton is the same as backing McCain is as anti Democrat a charge as can be made in this election year. And with roughly half the Democrats in the country supporting Clinton it literally is as divisive as is possible to paint so many million Democrats in that manner.

[Unsane]

64. .

[mbperrin]

13. Hmmm, sounds familiar.

What's good for General Motors is good for the USA!

Are you now or have you ever been, a ....


Yes, the broad statement tarring anyone we don't approve of. How quintessentially American, especially Red Scare American.

Nice...

[EFerrari]

15. No it's just math.

I don't mind people supporting someone else. I mind the horrible slurs posted straight from RW websites.

[mbperrin]

20. Well, as soon as you find me doing that, let me know, will you?

Until then, I'll support HRC with her 100% positive voting record for the American Federation of Teachers.

That's enough for me? OK with you? Or am I still trying to destroy the party?

[EFerrari]

25. I made my position very clear. And as a teacher myself,

I hope you are a better reader in the classroom. :hi:

[Unsane]

30. lol snap

[mbperrin]

31. Reading? No way, I'm an economics teacher!!!

Reading is for them English nerds, and math, sheesh, in eco, we get to deal with large or small numbers. That's close enough! And you're right, I can see half of my post was actually to you and half to someone else!



Always good to see someone else keeping the faith! :toast:

[proud2BlibKansan]

67. LOL I have so many people on ignore I don't see most of the threads the OP mentions

:rofl:

[EFerrari]

68. I have people I can't see arguing with other people I can't see.

lol

[Irishonly]

78. I Took Everyone Off

It was a dumb thing to do.

[NJmaverick]

11. Hillary's campaign has abandoned the party and our nation

It's all about her desire to rule the Country. As she goes, so go her supporters.

[Mags]

18. You guys can't get over the fact that Obama can't sew the election up

instead you all want her to drop out. The way I see it is if she drops out and gives it to him, that is not a win. That's a gift.

[mbperrin]

21. Yep, that's why we designed a primary process to go all the way

to the convention. If we only wanted the first 6 to count, we'd only have 6, right?

If it plays out that Obama wins, I'll support and vote for him. I expect the same support for HRC if she wins.

Does that seem OK?

[NJmaverick]

23. Have you listened to what Hillary has said?????

It appears you haven't. She sounds like george bush or karl rove or rush limbaugh. As a liberal and a Democrat I find her statements about elitism highly offensive, as should you.

[Mags]

26. Yes, I listen to her as well as Obama. Have you listen to him?

He sounds very arrogant to me.

[NJmaverick]

28. What he says is true. Now he didn't say it as well as he could

at the PRIVATE function, but he is right on the mark and is in touch with the American people. That's what we need, not a 100 million dollar woman PRETENDING she relates to the hard working Americans.

[Mags]

32. It may seem true to you, that doesn't mean everybody thinks it is.

I live in a small town. I don't feel that way. I think Hillary Clinton does know what hard working Americans are about.

[NJmaverick]

44. How would she know?

[humbled_opinion]

41. He Said, She Said,,,,

Enough already... Obama screwed up what he said he wasn't clear about it and it needed context and extension of remarks to make the point he did it so lets move on....

[NJmaverick]

43. Hillary refuses to move on and shames herself and the party

with her disingenuous self serving behavior.

[humbled_opinion]

46. So pointing that out does what to advance

The Democratic party ideas?

[mbperrin]

27. What part of 100% positive record for the American Federation

of Teachers do you not understand?

None of the 3 you've mentioned have same, so I assume that you must be the one not listening.

[NJmaverick]

29. I am an independent thinker. I don't have the teacher's federation

tell me who I should vote for.

[mbperrin]

33. Anti-union as well, eh?

Big fan of Ayn Rand and her "people are just resources" line of thought?

Or maybe just too young to know how important unions have been in this country...

[NJmaverick]

38. Please explain how thinking for yourself is anti union?!?!?!

Are you that much of a mindless sheep, that you are incapable of thinking for yourself. For that matter, why am I even talking to you. After all until the teacher's union tells you how to think, you have no ideas or positions.

[ima_sinnic]

73. oh, yeah, big "union supporter"--you don't even care about HRC's double dealings with Uribe

--you know, the fascist dictator of Colombia who engages death squads to murder union leaders?

you are as big a hypocrite as that stinking LIAR and PAYOLA GRUBBER HILLARY CLINTON.

so take your "anti-union" twaddle and shove it. if you were pro-union, you'd run screaming from the likes of Hillary Clinton.

[EFerrari]

47. #2 for this thread. How do you square that with the 800k Bill took from

the people murdering trade union organizers in Colombia? Chain saws are their weapon of choice.

Those Clintons. Big union people! :puke:

[gristy]

12. What consequences are you desiring?

Tombstone?

[jgraz]

39. Works for me.

[BzaDem]

14. Why are you allowed to say that you want everything you don't agree with censored?

[aikoaiko]

16. both groups are freakin annoying with vile posts,

I'm not that fond of either, but will vote for whomever is our candidate in Nov.


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[MichiganVote]

19. Thank you, a voice for sanity.

[LiberalZrule]

40. I think the lengthiness

of this democratic nomination is fraying away people's sanity and patience. They wish it will end. They wish Hillary would just quit because either they hate her or just wish the campaign against mccain will get started....Bill Clinton did not get the nomination until June right? He won right? I too am getting a little antsy about Mccain's free ride but we are in a democratic country where the people decide and it is selling our democratic ideals short if everyone is not heard. As to florida and michigan...they made their bed so they should lie in it. If those voters in those two states really WANT change and WANT their delegates to be seated then they should quit shining about Dean's position, hold new elections and get over it....Those are millions of voters we need to bring into the democratic fold. WE should not bash them because of thier frivilous envy about NH and other states voting before them. We should help them get their voices heard about who they want as president. Granted those voters give more delagates to Clinton as they stand now but if new elections are held then I predict an even distribution of delagates for HIllary and Obama. So why dont we all campaign for donations for new elections in Florida and Michigan so every voice who wants change in america democratically. I agree with Obama's concern about new elections being fair in those states. I do not think he is stating such because as the delagates stand now he loses out. He has shown integrity and I dont think he is showing concern about the demise of his chances for the presidency if those delagates are seated.

[onehandle]

22. It's on both sides. Obama people used (some still do) freeper phrases on Edwards.

And Edwards was #1 at DU even after he suspended his campaign for a while.

DU=Free Republic.

[crankychatter]

24. I hollered till I ended up writing with disappearing Ink... Skinner has good advice

Use the ignore feature... you will find yourself on serenity island, sitting under a Cinzano Umbrella, sipping a Mai Tai with like minded people.

Until the incendiary, inflammatory crap comes down, AFTER we have a nominee... you'll need to have your discussions with your 3-Dimensional Neighbors. MOST Clinton supporters are regular folks. I like them. We talk about our candidates... we agree about a lot of stuff.

We talk about the future of the Party. These people posting up the inflammatory crap here... PARROTING THE CORPORATE MEDIA? As if we didn't get enough crap from the boob tube?... I don't know who they are.

They're not friends of the Party... or maybe they're true Dems and just "passionate about their candidate."

I don't even care.

I consign them to the nether realm and, slowly but surely, they're either entombed, or they learn how to game the rules.

I'm a nube. I like Yahoo, where I can call a wanker a wanker.

We have a proscription on that here, and it's probably a very good thing.

:-)

[kevinmc]

34. We all know Freepers are Losers soooooo…..Ipso Facto ….. n/t

[MonkeyFunk]

42. LOL

:rofl:

You guys actually believe your own bullshit, don't you?

[crankychatter]

45. The nice thing about not liking Clinton is...

The FACTS are damning enough.

Obama just doesn't have to "go there," mud-wrestling in cess.

He's a good egg. I, however, am an asshole. He's sort of a role model for me in that way... (except for the being soft on neo-liberalism - proposing a corporate system of "universal health care" and being SOFT on NAFTA; and a host of other issues that negatively effect our National Autonomy and quality of life.)

lol... I should start a thread... the things I HATE ABOUT OBAMA.

You never hear me say that stuff here... this is sort of a first. And in the General Election, to hear ME talk... If Clinton's my gal... you will think she walks on fuckin water.

I will use flame throwers to defend her. (shhhh, don't tell da ickid and weevil Clintonistas I said dat).

[rodeodance]

48. Many Obama fans have used RW smears against Hillary for months. Where is OUTRAGE

[merh]

49. What would those smears be?

Or are all posts questioning her policies and stands on legitimate issues or her judgment and ability to effectively operate a campaign considered RW smears?

[MonkeyFunk]

51. repeating constant lies

bringing up known right-wing smears like Mena airport, Vince Foster, Ron Brown. Accusing Hillary of having her opponents murdered. Harping on Bill's cock. Stuff like that - stuff that gets posted here every day.

I swear, Obama fandom is the leading cause of blindness.

[merh]

53. Please link me to those posts

From what I recall, there were some made out of disgust when she accepted the endorsement of Sciafe, the man who engineered and funded the Mena airport, Vince Foster, Ron Brown conspiracies. If I recall, the posts were not about a belief in those conspiracies but about the hypocrisy of the candidate accepting the warm embrace of the man that began the lies, paid for the lies and continues to fund newsmax, one of the worst RW lie factories on the net.

So please, provide the links to other discussions of these conspiracies and how DUers are furthering them and not simply appalled at how low hillary will go to win.

And it is Hillary that keeps repeating lies, Bosnia and then the lies to cover Bosnia, et cetera.

Hillary has made her choices, it has long been cautioned that if she says her experience comes from her time in the White House then all that is that White House and its occupants is subject to scrutiny and replay, constant, sickening and fatiguing replay.

[MonkeyFunk]

54. No, I'm not going to link to them

because anybody who pretends they don't exist isn't having an honest discussion, and isn't worth any more of my time.

[Unsane]

55. Because they don't exist

[MonkeyFunk]

57. bullshit

absolute, pure bullshit.

It amazes me how often and how easily obama fans just flat out lie.

[merh]

76. if they exist them provide the links and prove they exist

beyond the descriptions I have provided.

and I am amazed how hillary supporters convince themselves of evils that don't exist and play their champion as a victim.

[merh]

59. You won't link because you can't

It is you being dishonest. What I stated is accurate, you just try to distort things to continue with the poor victim hillary game you and others like you like to play.

I'm actually quite surprised you posted as much as you did. It is going out on a limb to post more than inane comments with no substance as has become the norm for you.

;)

[rodeodance]

61. ha ha--you know they exist. stop being lazy.

[merh]

62. What exists? The RW smears you allege? Then support them.

It is not me being lazy but you and the poster I responded to, or rather that thought their post so great and worth consideration, they responded to me without source or links.

An accuser has the burden of proving the accusations, if you cannot substantiate your claims then they are nothing more than your whines.

[MonkeyFunk]

77. If you actually

think that such attacks don't exist, you're crazier than anyone imagined.

[merh]

80. LOL, nice stealth personal attack -

Just goes to prove that you have nothing and when you are cornered and can't back up your nonsense, you go for the jabs and blows, trying to harm while appearing aloof and so sincere . Of course, you do realize that your opinion and the opinions of those you associate with enough to reach that conclusion and share that gossip mean very little, some have their lists that they merrily post in the lounge long before the list controversy began here, some have zombie like existences and some have not so pleasant pasts on other sites that make their glass houses very fragile indeed.

If you are anything, you are consistent in your inability to actually debate a subject or substantiate your claims.

[hfojvt]

75. I have seen far too many mentions of Monica

but usually as part of a long rant about why somebody hates Hillary but not so much of the other stuff.

[Forkboy]

74. It's in the same place your outrage is over Newsmax and Hannity being used against Obama.

[Eurobabe]

50. because they ARE freepers or Rush's rot?

sent to DU to disrupt and cause dissention? I'm not saying all, but the one who post and link RW website? Uh, yeah.

[11 Bravo]

52. Holy shit! Did someone call Senator Obama a "whore", a "bitch", or a " menopausal wifey"?

Damn them!

[DemGa]

56. Why is Obama and his campaign allowed to smear Clinton as a liar since this began

without a peep from a certain faction of the Democrats -- except for running with the smear themselves???

This spectacle in hypocrisy is epic.

[shayes51]

58. What consequences do you have in mind?

[Auntie Bush]

60. Why have Obama supporters resorted to freeper tactics for the last several months.

Do they want us to vote for McCain?

"you're throwing around spurious, false RW attacks, you become indistinguishable from the other side.

Say hello to President McSame, you fools."

So true!

It's the vicious right wing attacks that are thrown at Hillary that started this whole hate fest between the two camps...playing right into Freeper hands. Good work fools.

[billyoc]

63. Because nobody is listening to them. Except, apparently, you. nt

[Unsane]

65. wrong, look at the size of the threads

[SoCalDem]

66. They are a minority, and some feel sorry for their delusional selves

:shrug:

[depakid]

69. My God -Irony is DEAD on this forum....

it really is.

[Catherina]

70. So they can bury their "Goddess of Peace" all by themselves n/t

[McCamy Taylor]

71. Grow up. It is free speech. What is "I hate Hillary"? Or "Hillary is a f***ing w***e"?

Standard Democratic rhetoric?

[sniffa]

79. They're not

If it's flame bait, alert on it, and it will be locked. As is often quoted here, use the damn alert button. If it's an outright rule breaking thread, then use the alert button.

If it's just a negative attention seeking post that doesn't rise to the level of FB, then ignore it (or hide it if you must).

[Forkboy]

81. My favorite tactic is when they post flamebait and it gets locked...

..and they turn around and blame everyone for it getting locked. Forget that they posted blatant flamebait, it's everyone else's fault for pointing that out. :crazy:

Another thing that's funny is when they whine about "herd alerting". The only time I've ever talked about alerting anyone in a PM was with a Hillary supporter. :rofl:

[Unsane]

84. yeppers

[aquarius dawning]

82. Like drumming upMonica Lewinsky? Oh wait, that's Obama's supporters doing that.

[Unsane]

83. nope