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Lyric (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-13-08 06:47 AM Original message |
The argument is not about whether or not people are "bitter". |
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bowens43 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-13-08 06:56 AM Response to Original message |
1. It wasn't a mistep, it was right on |
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Eagle_Eye (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-13-08 07:01 AM Response to Reply #1 |
5. It wasn't a mistep, it was an insult. |
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TLM (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-13-08 07:04 AM Response to Reply #5 |
7. There was nothing insulting about it.... |
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Eagle_Eye (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-13-08 07:08 AM Response to Reply #7 |
14. The people he insulted are not going to analyze the semantics of his words |
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EffieBlack (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-13-08 07:28 AM Response to Reply #14 |
29. Let me get this straight - you say these voters are too ignorant |
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Eagle_Eye (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-13-08 07:33 AM Response to Reply #29 |
32. It is very hard to get a second chance at a first impression |
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EffieBlack (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-13-08 08:08 AM Response to Reply #32 |
38. That's not the point - you claim the voters are stupid, you criticize Obama for |
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Eagle_Eye (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-13-08 09:54 AM Response to Reply #38 |
40. Please point out where I called anyone 'stupid' |
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ecdab (834 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-13-08 07:30 AM Response to Reply #14 |
30. The only thing that makes it look like a mistake is the spin that Hillary |
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Eagle_Eye (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-13-08 07:33 AM Response to Reply #30 |
33. Are you dizzy yet? |
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Hepburn (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-13-08 10:12 AM Response to Reply #14 |
43. It was NOT an insult.... |
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Voice for Peace (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-13-08 09:26 PM Response to Reply #14 |
46. People who can think for themselves aren't going to be insulted |
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LiberalZrule (84 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-13-08 10:20 AM Response to Reply #5 |
44. I am getting |
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Voice for Peace (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-13-08 09:30 PM Response to Reply #44 |
47. He's not apologizing! But he is clarifying. |
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BigBearJohn (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-13-08 07:07 AM Response to Reply #1 |
12. Are these Americans you are referring to the very same that voted for George W. Bush TWICE? |
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WinkyDink (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-13-08 07:10 AM Response to Reply #12 |
17. PA. is a True-Blue state, and it's best not to forget that. I'm tired of the stupid slams against |
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Lyric (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-13-08 07:15 AM Response to Reply #12 |
22. Actually, Pennsylvania went for Kerry in '04 |
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Eagle_Eye (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-13-08 07:24 AM Response to Reply #12 |
27. Bush is not in this election. I am talking about Obama. Please come up to speed; this is 2008 |
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BigBearJohn (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-13-08 07:41 AM Response to Reply #12 |
36. Oh, I thought you were talking about smart Americans -- not from any state in particular. |
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FrenchieCat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-13-08 06:58 AM Response to Original message |
2. Why wouldn't Obama "recover". |
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Eagle_Eye (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-13-08 07:03 AM Response to Reply #2 |
6. We don't need to waste our time, money and effort "recovering" from this. |
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TLM (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-13-08 07:06 AM Response to Reply #6 |
9. Yeah the war hero vs the sniper liar.... |
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Eagle_Eye (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-13-08 07:11 AM Response to Reply #9 |
19. A cut throat Republican vs an inexperienced, well meaning, Liberal Democrat |
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FrenchieCat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-13-08 07:07 AM Response to Reply #6 |
11. She will be losing...... |
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Eagle_Eye (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-13-08 07:12 AM Response to Reply #11 |
20. Forever is a long time. I hope you will be voting for the Democratic candidate this November |
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EffieBlack (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-13-08 07:21 AM Response to Reply #2 |
25. Dead on |
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thepurpose (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-13-08 06:58 AM Response to Original message |
3. No one wants to hear the truth. And you if you speak truth you are stupid. Because Americans can't |
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Eagle_Eye (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-13-08 07:05 AM Response to Reply #3 |
8. Obama's 'truth' resulted in a perceived insult to potential voters. His inexperience is showing |
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TLM (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-13-08 07:08 AM Response to Reply #8 |
13. The only people who see it as an insult are Hillary/mccain supporters... |
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WinkyDink (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-13-08 07:11 AM Response to Reply #13 |
18. And you of course know this how? |
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Eagle_Eye (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-13-08 07:14 AM Response to Reply #13 |
21. The Obama campaign is spinning this issue so hard, time is slowing down |
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FrenchieCat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-13-08 07:09 AM Response to Reply #8 |
15. Perceived is right....because in actuality, it's bullshit. |
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Eagle_Eye (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-13-08 07:20 AM Response to Reply #15 |
24. I know that people voted for Kennedy over Nixon because of the perception they got from television |
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Saturday (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-13-08 07:17 AM Response to Reply #8 |
23. You are exactly right, It's inexperience on Obama's part that got him into this. nt |
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Voice for Peace (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-13-08 09:33 PM Response to Reply #23 |
48. You're right. He doesn't have any experience at dishonestly manipulating voters. |
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thepurpose (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-13-08 07:23 AM Response to Reply #8 |
26. Okay. So what? Did he offend all voters? No McCain and Hillary have never said anything to offend |
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Eagle_Eye (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-13-08 07:32 AM Response to Reply #26 |
31. My point is Obama is repeatedly making amateurish mistakes |
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thepurpose (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-13-08 07:36 AM Response to Reply #31 |
34. Obama's lacking of experience running campaigns? Now who is out of touch |
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Eagle_Eye (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-13-08 10:10 AM Response to Reply #34 |
41. Obama is organized, efficient, and well funded, but can he weather a full fledged republican attack? |
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Voice for Peace (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-13-08 09:35 PM Response to Reply #41 |
49. Yes he can, and he will. |
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Eagle_Eye (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-14-08 05:28 AM Response to Reply #49 |
51. McCain has old age and cunning |
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Liberal Gramma (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-13-08 10:02 PM Response to Reply #41 |
50. He's already weathered a full fledged republican attack |
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Lyric (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-13-08 07:06 AM Response to Reply #3 |
10. No, but there is a time for unvarnished truth about uncomfortable things |
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Eagle_Eye (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-13-08 07:00 AM Response to Original message |
4. Let's make this 'go away' right now. Neutralize the problem. Dump Obama and support Hillary |
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FrenchieCat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-13-08 07:10 AM Response to Reply #4 |
16. ! |
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Eagle_Eye (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-13-08 10:11 AM Response to Reply #16 |
42. We're Number One, We're Number One! |
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Chiyo-chichi (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-13-08 07:28 AM Response to Original message |
28. Spare me. |
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Lyric (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-13-08 07:39 AM Response to Reply #28 |
35. Yes, at least partially. |
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thepurpose (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-13-08 07:45 AM Response to Reply #35 |
37. I don't think its idealistic to want someone to be honest. How can you know they are really a |
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Lyric (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-13-08 09:04 AM Response to Reply #37 |
39. Neither of our candidates are progressives |
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Chiyo-chichi (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-13-08 08:55 PM Response to Reply #35 |
45. It's a specious argument, at best. |
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