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BeyondGeography Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-13-08 12:47 AM
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Ex-Clinton advisor: Bill and Co. have said the same things as Obama
For it, Before She Was Against It

Theda Skocpol writes in...

I have been in meetings with the Clintons and their advisors where very clinical things were said in a very-detached tone about unwillingness of working class voters to trust government -- and Bill Clinton -- and about their unfortunate (from a Clinton perspective) proclivity to vote on life-style rather than economic issues. To see Hillary going absolutely over the top to smash Obama for making clearly more humanly sympathetic observations in this vein, is just amazing. Even more so to see her pretending to be a gun-toting non-elite. Give us a break!

I wonder if she realizes that gaining a few days of lurid publicity that might reach a slice of voters is going to cost her a great deal in the regard of many Democrats, whose strong support she will need if she somehow claws her way to the nomination -- and even more so if she does not clinch the nomination. The distribution of "we're not bitter" stickers to her campaign rallies is the height of over-the-top crudity, and the reports are that very few audience members seem to have much enthusiasm for this nonsense. Not surprisingly, people cannot see the reasons for so much fuss.

Yes, she wants a big break, she desperately wants the nomination she and Bill believe is hers by right. We all know that. But where is her authenticity and her dignity and her sense of any proportion?

This has to be one of the few times in U.S. political history when a multi-millionaire has accused a much less wealthy fellow public servant, a person of the same party and views who made much less lucrative career choices, of "elitism"! (I won't say the only time, because U.S. political history is full of absurdities of this sort.) In a way, it is funny -- and it may not be long before the jokes start.

http://talkingpointsmemo.com/archives/188673.php


Skocpol is the Victor S. Thomas Professor of Government and Sociology and Dean of the Graduate School of Arts and Sciences at Harvard University. She has also served as Director of the Center for American Political Studies at Harvard from 1999 to 2006.

Active in civic as well as academic life, Skocpol was included in policy discussions with President Bill Clinton at the White House and Camp David.

http://www.wjh.harvard.edu/soc/faculty/skocpol/

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FrenchieCat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-13-08 12:49 AM
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1. This is all a bad joke, in my opinion......and in 10 days,
the last laugh will not be Hillary's.

She's playing with some real fire now.
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Diane R Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-13-08 12:52 AM
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2. Great article. It's stunning to see how much Hillary will debase herself to win this thing.
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Scurrilous Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-13-08 12:53 AM
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3. K & R
:thumbsup:
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jackson_dem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-13-08 12:54 AM
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4. One Obamite claims Bill, who is not running, said some things with no evidence
:boring:

More rethug tactics from the Obama campaign.
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roguevalley Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-13-08 02:18 AM
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7. go ahead. don't let reality wake you up.
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babylonsister Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-13-08 12:55 AM
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5. Rec'd. "Crudity" defines what is going on. nt
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Tarheel_Dem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-13-08 01:22 AM
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6. Great find, BG. I think many good Democrats are insulted by the
Clintons' behavior as evidenced by this:

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_topic&forum=132&topic_id=5472847

Hillary may have bitten off more than she can chew as usual. Every trick she's employed against Obama has boomeranged, and I have no reason to believe that this latest nonstory will do the same.
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NJmaverick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-13-08 05:12 AM
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8. yet the ethically challenged hillary has no problem ATTACKING Obama
and take hypocrisy to a whole new level with her disingenuous "elitist" charges. She is as bad a person as george bush jr.
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