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debbierlus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-12-08 09:14 PM
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I am so sorry I ever gave that woman my vote in MA, it ain't even funny

As a former Hillary supporter, I am DISGUSTED with this woman and her campaign. I voted on Super Tuesday when she thought she had it all locked up, and had yet to start her rapid downturn.

I have talked to THREE other voters who told me they felt the same way (they volunteered it, I didn't say anything about my change of support)...

I am so glad to read Gore & Carter are set to step in and throw her out of this race.
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babylonsister Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-12-08 09:16 PM
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1. I bet there are a lot of people who feel the same way you do. nt
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corkhead Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-12-08 10:08 PM
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17. Maybe they'll make themselves known so I can take them off ignore
:o
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Adelante Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-12-08 09:16 PM
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2. alcibiades_mystery makes me look silly sometimes
;)

I'm sorry you've been disappointed.
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JayFredMuggs Donating Member (881 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-12-08 09:17 PM
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3. BRAVO! Brilliant!
I love ya!

My brother in law is with you! He did it too, and regrets it SOO much!
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dailykoff Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-12-08 09:17 PM
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4. I always wondered what happened in MA.
Didn't the Kerry and Kennedy endorsements mean anything?
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JayFredMuggs Donating Member (881 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-12-08 09:18 PM
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6. Mass voters are TOO sleepy in January and Feb
They don't wake up until the last week of march when temps go about 40 degrees.

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dailykoff Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-12-08 09:19 PM
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9. Ha.
Now that I can understand. :)
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Forkboy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-12-08 09:23 PM
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11. The NFL playoffs happened.
:)
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dailykoff Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-13-08 08:44 AM
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39. Could be.
Do you think it was that MA voters just hadn't gotten a good look at him? That combined with reservations about race?

That's what I'm guessing at this point.
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nichomachus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-13-08 10:25 AM
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46. Many Mass. Democrats are Reagan Democrats
But more than that, it shows how endorsements in general don't really mean shit. I know that I don't make my choice based on who has endorsed whom -- and I don't know anyone who does.

I think the endorsements have more clout at the party level, where superdelegates will decide who to line up behind.
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beachmom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-13-08 08:56 PM
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63. Actually, Hillary had all the local endorsements WAY EARLY, and
that matters in terms of a ground operation. I think Kerry & Kennedy and all the publicity it garnered Obama helped shave off Hillary's enormous lead going into the Mass. primary, however.

As to Mass., the Clintons used to vacation in Martha's Vineyard, and were loved for it at the time by Mass. Dems.
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Forrest Greene Donating Member (946 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-13-08 08:33 PM
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56. As A Former Resident Of MA
...let me just mention their election to the state governorship of two noted Republican carpetbaggers, Mitt Romney & William Weld.


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AtomicKitten Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-12-08 09:18 PM
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5. Thank you for being open to changing your mind.
I am hopeful others will do the same.

Thank you and don your helmet!

K&R
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nichomachus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-12-08 09:19 PM
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7. That's why they have super delegates
The superdelegates can step in when someone who's gotten a lot of early votes all of a sudden loses appeal with the voters. A lot can happen between the New Hampshire primary and the convention.
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samdogmom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-12-08 09:19 PM
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8. Don't worry!
The MA victory for Hillary was a heartbreaker for some of us diehards...but we've moved on.

I agree, her latest actions are truly disgusting! What can she possibly be thinking?

Is she thinking? I'm not sure! She's acting like an idiot!
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FatDave Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-13-08 01:29 PM
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49. What can she possibly be thinking?
"If I can damage Obama to the point that McCain wins, I can run again in 2012."

Possibly.
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Frank Booth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-12-08 09:23 PM
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10. I was also fooled by her, though I didn't vote for her.
I used to think she cared about the people in this country and our party, but it's become clear that all she cares about is her personal ambition.
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progetto Donating Member (122 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-12-08 11:23 PM
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18. I have to believe many SDs see the same thing

if the SDs have had enough and start moving to BO, this thing can wrap up soon.
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Cha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-12-08 09:35 PM
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12. I know..I voted for her in 2000
for Senator, met her in 2001 and shook her hand before I took her picture..then the IWR happened in 2002 and a lot of us in New York felt betrayed by Senator Clinton and it went down hill from there.

The important thing, imo, is that you realize it now and that we can learn from our experiences. Your sig line says you're willing to acknowledge that.

I hope Gore and Carter can find an earlier resolution so our :party: can concentrate on winning the Presidency and we begin turning this thing around.
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SunsetDreams Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-12-08 09:47 PM
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13. debbie,
I think there are a lot of people, who have became disgusted with her and her campaign.

I don't fault you for voting for her, because at one time, I would have been happy to have her as the nominee.

I thought she was better than this, but I guess I was wrong. She fooled me one too many times.



:hug:
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Medusa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-12-08 09:48 PM
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14. Let's hope and pray the report re Gore & Carter are true
but I doubt that even they can deal with the egos involved when it comes to the Clintons. They are obviously in their own little bubble and they are willing to say anything, do anything, whatever it takes, no matter how low to win this. And you have to wonder why it is they want this so desperately?
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Hepburn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-13-08 09:36 AM
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42. It's Sunday AM and I am still half asleep and have not read much yet.....
...what is the report on Gore and Carter? TIA for any info! :hi:
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Zhade Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-13-08 08:37 PM
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58. "obviously in their own little bubble" - now, who else do we know that is described by that?
Hmmm...

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Zachstar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-12-08 09:48 PM
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15. It is good to see you being reasonable. Just remember tho that the Gore and Carter rumor is rumor.
It may not happen and if it happens they may just lightly endorse Obama without any major calls.

Let us not get too worked up about that right now until we have some evidence.
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TML Donating Member (749 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-12-08 09:50 PM
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16. Look at it this way
You're likely getting another chance to vote for a Democrat that will work for you if you elect him. Just hang on until November and do what you can to support him between now and then. :-)
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LiberalZrule Donating Member (84 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-12-08 11:27 PM
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19. What?
Gore!? Who laid down and let the republicans run over him and steal the 2000 election from him. Carter?! who plans to meat with a Hamas leader or is it Hezbollah..our enemies. Do you see them willing to sit down and talk with us? No they want to blow us up. There is no talking to these extremist. Carter is a fool.
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Name removed Donating Member (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-13-08 12:59 AM
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LiberalZrule Donating Member (84 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-13-08 01:14 AM
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28. I am a democrat
and proud of it but you know they are MY talking points... It came from my brain, my hear, and my soul. Vaporize your useless rubbish on someone else.
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Tarheel_Dem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-13-08 01:37 AM
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30. self delete....
Edited on Sun Apr-13-08 01:39 AM by Tarheel_Dem
in the spirit of open mindedness, unlike you, I will self-censor my remarks where you are concerned.
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Binka Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-13-08 01:49 AM
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33. Your Brain & Your Hear Are Fucking Retarded
Get lost basement boy.
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Name removed Donating Member (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-13-08 01:07 AM
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EFerrari Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-13-08 06:57 AM
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36. Gore did not lay down. And the majority of Israelis favor
dialog with Hamas.
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ForeignSpectator Donating Member (970 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-13-08 05:25 PM
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52. You mean they favor "meating" them?
Take a look at that post again... dead give-away.
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cali Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-13-08 07:02 AM
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38. Are you completely divorced from reality?
Gore fought up to the Supreme Court. For a month he fought in every possible venue. And sorry, Hamas was democratically elected by the Palestinian people. Talking to them may not do any good, but it won't do any harm. We need to talk to our enemies even more than we need to talk to our friends.
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Forrest Greene Donating Member (946 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-13-08 08:38 PM
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59. Now, Which One Fits Best?
troll
n 1: (Scandanavian folklore) a supernatural creature (either a
dwarf or a giant) that is supposed to live in caves or
in the mountains
2: a partsong in which voices follow each other; one voice
starts and others join in one after another until all are
singing different parts of the song at the same time;
"they enjoyed singing rounds"
3: a fisherman's lure that is used in trolling; "he used a
spinner as his troll"
4: angling by drawing a baited line through the water
v 1: circulate, move around
2: cause to move round and round; "The child trolled her hoop"
3: sing the parts of (a round) in succession
4: angle with a hook and line drawn through the water
5: sing loudly and without inhibition
6: praise or celebrate in song; "All tongues shall troll you"
7: speak or recite rapidly or in a rolling voice

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Zhade Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-13-08 08:41 PM
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60. Learn some basic geopolitical info. Neither Hamas nor Hezbollah wants to blow US up.
Get educated, you're embarrassing yourself.

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Hardrada Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-13-08 09:11 PM
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64. Hamas and Hezbollah are not MY enemies.
They are the enemies of a state rather a distance from our shores.
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davidpdx Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-12-08 11:45 PM
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20. Good for you. I hope others recognize the same thing
and realize what she and her husband are up to. There's an old saying, "better late then never" and it sure applies in this case.
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pettypace Donating Member (695 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-13-08 12:16 AM
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21. I love this post
A person who voted for Hillary as recently as 2 months ago has soured on her candidacy.

How many others on DU - please post here.
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Tatiana Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-13-08 12:21 AM
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22. My grandmother voted for Hillary on Super Tuesday as well. She supports Obama now.
Edited on Sun Apr-13-08 12:21 AM by Tatiana
I've never seen a so-called Democrat turn on the values Democrats are supposed to represent like she has.

Oh wait... there was Lieberman, who coincidentally, also supports McSame.
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stillcool Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-13-08 12:26 AM
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23. I am amazed by what I have learned..
in this Primary Season.
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Catherina Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-13-08 01:10 AM
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26. Opposite regret here. I regret not voting in the Primaries
because I disliked Hillary and couldn't get excited about Obama. I really regret that now and think if they held the California Primary today, Obama would win it. I hope the news about Gore and Carter is true.
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grantcart Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-13-08 01:12 AM
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27. don't hold your breath on Gore or Carter
were going to have to do this on our own
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zulchzulu Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-13-08 01:16 AM
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29. I'm sorry you had to go through that head trip
Once you realize the Heroine of Tuzla is a phony and is actually not going to be the nominee, you can then focus on beating McCain.

Cheers!

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woolldog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-13-08 01:43 AM
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31. I'm very disappointed in both Clintons.
I feel like a fool for ever having supported them, defended them.
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Major Hogwash Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-13-08 01:44 AM
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32. I think we are ALL glad that the primaries aren't all held on the same day.
Edited on Sun Apr-13-08 01:47 AM by Major Hogwash
You would have thought the world ended on February 5th, the way they were talking.

It was like "Whhhaaaatttt? We aren't the nominee yet?!"

I have great hope for North Carolina to let her know what real military families think about her story "ducking sniper fire".

I know, I know, it's another state that doesn't count.

But, I think it is interesting that Obama is being asked to lock up the nomination WITHOUT Florida and Michigan!

That is almost an impossibility, but it can be done.

Watch, you'll see.
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Tarheel_Dem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-13-08 06:14 AM
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34. Kick for the morning crowd....nt
:kick:
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crankychatter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-13-08 06:41 AM
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35. it will be good for them to endorse. but they have no formal authority
you are in GOOD company, per the polls... with hundreds of thousands of Clinton Voters now having...

"Buyers Remorse"
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POAS Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-13-08 06:57 AM
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37. Once Edwards got out I flip-flopped
almost daily between Hillary and Barack. The Hillary campaign tactics drove me away from her as I found it hard to tell her tactics from Rovian ones.

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nichomachus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-13-08 09:52 AM
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43. Same here n/t
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Lucky 13 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-13-08 09:27 AM
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40. Thank you for being open-minded
So many have chosen their candidate and BLINDED themselves to any arguments against them - to the point of complete delusion. Thank you for being open-minded enough to consider the whole picture.

Any suggestions on how we get the Clinton supporters that have their fingers in their ears to stop the gnashing of teeth and at least CONSIDER re-looking at their candidate, Obama, and the facts?
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meow mix Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-13-08 09:32 AM
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41. ty for being honest and rational
its always good to read these posts
:pals:
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mmonk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-13-08 09:59 AM
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44. Has there been any confirmation of this plan?
I hear it but don't know the answer.
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DevonRex Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-13-08 10:18 AM
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45. I rationalized being able to support Hillary a long time ago by
by thinking that her IWR vote was just a tactical move and since she was in New York it might have been hard for her to vote against it. Then, thank God, Obama came along and I realized that I didn't HAVE to vote for a person who didn't have the guts to be against the war.

One of the biggest reasons I backed Obama since the summer of 2007 was my son. He and the guys he graduated with from Colorado College were strong Obama supporters from the start. Some of them even have paid positions with the campaign and travel all around the country opening local campaign offices. They're all great guys. Some are rich. Some are poor. They all played lacrosse together and were in the same fraternity - the one with the highest GPA on campus. They studied hard, played hard and, of course, partied hard when it wouldn't hurt their academics or their team. They everything you want your kids to be when they become adults, and now their energies are devoted to electing a president they can be proud of.

Talk about a powerful message.
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Eurobabe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-13-08 10:28 AM
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47. Ask her to give your vote back!!
Edited on Sun Apr-13-08 10:28 AM by 48percenter
Hey, it's OK, we all make mistakes (after all I was a Repube until 1992, but don't tell anyone. LOL)

:hi:

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Adelante Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-13-08 10:48 AM
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48. You have company according to this article today
Fortunately for these women, their vote hasn't happened yet:

LEVITTOWN, Pa. — Like many women over 50, Paula Houwen was eager to vote for Hillary Clinton for president.

“I was impressed when she was first lady. She wasn’t the country’s trophy wife,” the 56-year-old suburban Philadelphia pharmacist recalled.

Today, though, Houwen’s no longer a Clinton fan.

“I do not like the way Hillary Clinton has run her campaign,” she said.

Clinton’s strongest core of support — white women — is beginning to erode in Pennsylvania, the site of the critical April 22 Democratic presidential primary, and a loss here could effectively end her White House run.


Entire article:

http://www.mcclatchydc.com/227/story/33411.html

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Mme. Defarge Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-13-08 01:37 PM
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50. K&R!
Edited on Sun Apr-13-08 01:37 PM by Mme. Defarge
Let's give this topic some flames!
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Yael Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-13-08 02:09 PM
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51. Debbie, let your SDs know
That is the fastest way to make your wishes known in this campaign now that the vote is over.
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Justice Is Comin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-13-08 05:38 PM
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53. If you ever see this
string bean become president, you'll know what sorry is.

The repukes will make him a laughing stock.
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Zhade Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-13-08 08:50 PM
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61. You have "string bean", but all we have to say is "proven compulsive LIAR". You fail, every time.
Oh, btw, she's not getting the nom. Learn to live with it, as she will.

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Mr_Jefferson_24 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-13-08 07:56 PM
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54. K&R.
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peace frog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-13-08 07:58 PM
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55. I did not have voting relations with that woman
I'm an Edwards voter and I agree with you about Hillary: DISGUSTED.
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Zhade Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-13-08 08:34 PM
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57. Was it her proven lies that turned you around?
NT!

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lilyannerose Donating Member (106 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-13-08 08:50 PM
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62. Seeing as How I Was One of Them Latte Drinking Activist at Caucus
Voting for Obama I still felt, at that time, if Obama didn't get the nomination I could in good conscience vote for HRC, however, that thought is history!
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cyndensco Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-13-08 09:18 PM
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65. Debbie - just a quick question
Did you vote for hillary on Super Tuesday because you liked her or because you thought she had it locked up? Just curious...

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meow mix Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-15-08 09:20 AM
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66. K&R
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knixphan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-15-08 09:29 AM
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67. It's all good, debbierlus
Justice prevails in the end.

I'll make you a martini - join us in the bitter elitist lounge.

Much love, and GOBAMA.
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Hope And Change Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-15-08 09:34 AM
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68. K & R!
:kick:
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