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Bolo Boffin (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Apr-12-08 06:35 PM Original message |
Barack Obama: "Another Layer of Skepticism" When 46-Year-Old Black Man Tells PA About Hope |
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Pirate Smile (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Apr-12-08 06:39 PM Response to Original message |
1. We already knew that. It was part of the extended quote. |
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Bolo Boffin (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Apr-12-08 06:41 PM Response to Reply #1 |
3. Then you don't understand. |
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scheming daemons (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Apr-12-08 10:25 PM Response to Reply #3 |
48. The only people offended by his remarks are people that were overwhelmingly Repug anyway... |
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BeatleBoot (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Apr-12-08 06:40 PM Response to Original message |
2. Not ready for prime time |
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Bolo Boffin (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Apr-12-08 06:43 PM Response to Reply #2 |
5. Sadly, I have to agree. n/t |
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Drunken Irishman (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-13-08 04:27 PM Response to Reply #2 |
68. So, my good friend BeatleBoot, who is? |
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Orrex (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Apr-12-08 06:43 PM Response to Original message |
4. He should have had the sense not to be a 46 year old black man |
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Bolo Boffin (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Apr-12-08 06:45 PM Response to Reply #4 |
7. He should have had the sense never to have said such a thing. |
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Orrex (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Apr-12-08 06:52 PM Response to Reply #7 |
16. If only I knew a voter in Pennsylvania... |
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Bolo Boffin (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Apr-12-08 06:55 PM Response to Reply #16 |
20. Parse away. It's a huge stretch from the clear meaning of the words. n/t |
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Orrex (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Apr-12-08 07:33 PM Response to Reply #20 |
40. Perhaps |
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Bolo Boffin (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Apr-12-08 07:39 PM Response to Reply #40 |
43. That was your second chance to explain what I asked you to explain. |
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Chulanowa (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Apr-12-08 10:12 PM Response to Reply #43 |
47. There's a difference between racism |
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Bolo Boffin (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-13-08 04:13 AM Response to Reply #47 |
52. You just said what he meant a lot better than he did on video. |
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Chulanowa (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-13-08 12:00 PM Response to Reply #52 |
61. Is he wrong, though? |
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babylonsister (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Apr-12-08 09:02 PM Response to Reply #7 |
46. You're reading way too much into this. Has a black man EVER been |
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Bolo Boffin (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-13-08 04:14 AM Response to Reply #46 |
54. I am listening to the words come out of his mouth. n/t |
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babylonsister (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-13-08 12:03 PM Response to Reply #54 |
62. And you're interpreting what he said as something that isn't there. |
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DemGa (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Apr-12-08 06:44 PM Response to Original message |
6. Yes, Obama is alluding to them being racists -- very damaging indeed --NT |
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jackson_dem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Apr-12-08 06:45 PM Original message |
He basically called Pennsylvanians a bunch of racists |
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Pirate Smile (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Apr-12-08 06:45 PM Response to Original message |
8. He actually had just defended them against claims that they wont vote for him because of his |
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Bolo Boffin (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Apr-12-08 06:46 PM Response to Reply #8 |
10. The two statements are not incompatible. Not at all. n/t |
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malik flavors (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Apr-12-08 06:46 PM Response to Original message |
9. He always jokes about a black guy named Obama be an unlikely candidate. |
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MadBadger (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Apr-12-08 06:49 PM Response to Reply #9 |
12. The whole bit about a skinny kid with a funny name. |
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Bolo Boffin (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Apr-12-08 06:50 PM Response to Reply #9 |
14. But there, the implied racism is vague and not assignable to any particular group. |
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flor de jasmim (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Apr-12-08 06:51 PM Response to Reply #9 |
15. Malik, I'm with you on this, because |
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WillYourVoteBCounted (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Apr-12-08 06:47 PM Response to Original message |
11. 2 of the wealthiest senators accuse Obama of elitism - Hillaryious |
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rodeodance (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-13-08 04:28 AM Response to Reply #11 |
58. you equate elite with $$.--your premise is wrong. Elitist is Obama-who talks down to groups!! |
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Bolo Boffin (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-13-08 05:06 AM Response to Reply #58 |
60. I completely disagree that Barack is elitist. 100% disagree. |
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Nedsdag (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-13-08 04:32 PM Response to Reply #58 |
69. If Obama talks down to groups. |
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John Q. Citizen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Apr-12-08 06:49 PM Response to Original message |
13. I don't see the problem. Of course I didn't see the problem with handshake gate, |
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Bolo Boffin (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Apr-12-08 06:54 PM Response to Reply #13 |
18. You don't see the problem with openly implying that a specific group of people are racists... |
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crankychatter (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Apr-12-08 06:57 PM Response to Reply #18 |
22. sounds like YOU are having second thoughts about YOUR candidate |
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Bolo Boffin (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Apr-12-08 07:01 PM Response to Reply #22 |
24. Which is allowed in America. |
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spoony (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-13-08 04:20 AM Response to Reply #24 |
56. That's how I feel about it |
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John Q. Citizen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Apr-12-08 07:03 PM Response to Reply #18 |
28. If you percieve some free advice, "learn to hold your water,' as a personal attack, then it becomes |
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Bolo Boffin (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Apr-12-08 07:04 PM Response to Reply #28 |
29. John Q., you and I have gone round and round before. It is history that makes that |
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thevoiceofreason (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Apr-12-08 06:52 PM Response to Original message |
17. What in the hell are you babbling about? |
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Starbucks Anarchist (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Apr-12-08 06:55 PM Response to Original message |
19. He was just following Ed Rendell's lead: |
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Bolo Boffin (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Apr-12-08 06:57 PM Response to Reply #19 |
21. Rendell saying it is not Obama saying it. |
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Name removed (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Apr-12-08 07:02 PM Response to Reply #21 |
26. Deleted message |
crankychatter (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Apr-12-08 06:58 PM Response to Original message |
23. OMG we lost the assault weapon owning, fundamentalist, xenophobe VOTE |
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Bolo Boffin (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Apr-12-08 07:07 PM Response to Reply #23 |
30. The media have a hammer to pound him with now, and it's made out of his own words. |
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crankychatter (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Apr-12-08 07:13 PM Response to Reply #30 |
34. they will hammer him regardless |
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butterfly77 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Apr-12-08 07:01 PM Response to Original message |
25. I wonder why people always try to pretend... |
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Bolo Boffin (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Apr-12-08 07:03 PM Response to Reply #25 |
27. Me, too. |
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melody (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Apr-12-08 07:09 PM Response to Original message |
31. And suddenly all the putative Obama supporters appear to supposedly denounce him |
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crankychatter (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Apr-12-08 07:11 PM Response to Reply #31 |
33. you're a smarty |
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Bolo Boffin (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Apr-12-08 07:23 PM Response to Reply #31 |
36. The True Scotsman fallacy? Really? |
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Name removed (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Apr-12-08 07:28 PM Response to Reply #36 |
37. Deleted message |
John Q. Citizen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-13-08 02:09 AM Response to Reply #36 |
50. If you say it is damaging, then of course, in your mind, it is. However, you have presented |
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Beregond2 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Apr-12-08 07:09 PM Response to Original message |
32. Oh, balls. |
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jefferson_dem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Apr-12-08 07:18 PM Response to Original message |
35. Bullshit. Are you ready for the truth? He was talking about the Media Narrative. |
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Bolo Boffin (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Apr-12-08 07:28 PM Response to Reply #35 |
38. No bullshit. He gave a nod to racism. |
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Orrex (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Apr-12-08 07:34 PM Response to Reply #38 |
41. S-T-R-E-T-C-H |
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babylonsister (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-13-08 12:05 PM Response to Reply #38 |
63. You are SO delusional. He gave a nod to racism-can I have some |
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MercutioATC (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Apr-12-08 07:33 PM Response to Original message |
39. Hi there, boloboffin! |
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Bolo Boffin (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Apr-12-08 07:37 PM Response to Reply #39 |
42. Hey, MercutioATC! |
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TacticalPeek (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Apr-12-08 08:52 PM Response to Original message |
44. I thought there was no video of his fundraiser remarks - is there a complete video/ transcript? |
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Bolo Boffin (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-13-08 04:01 AM Response to Reply #44 |
51. A portion of the video is at Politico. n/t |
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rug (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Apr-12-08 08:59 PM Response to Original message |
45. If his words don't sink him, their laughter will. |
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Eurobabe (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Apr-12-08 10:28 PM Response to Original message |
49. And it's taken out of context. THE SKY IS FALLING!! |
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Bolo Boffin (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-13-08 04:15 AM Response to Reply #49 |
55. No, it is not being taken out of context. Context (the San Fransisco fundraiser) is half the damage. |
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Neshanic (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-13-08 04:13 AM Response to Original message |
53. Oh to be gay, carefree and stupid in SF in front of millionaires. |
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ecstatic (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-13-08 04:28 AM Response to Original message |
57. So a desperate Clintonite troll is attending Obama's fundraisers |
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Bolo Boffin (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-13-08 05:04 AM Response to Reply #57 |
59. That doesn't change Barack Obama on tape saying what he said. |
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JoFerret (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-13-08 03:30 PM Response to Reply #57 |
66. Crikey. |
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BeyondGeography (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-13-08 12:08 PM Response to Original message |
64. Bullshit...everyone knows that's true |
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truebrit71 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-13-08 12:08 PM Response to Original message |
65. Oh cry me a river...if it is taken out of context it can be made to say ANYTHING... |
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Cali_Democrat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-13-08 03:32 PM Response to Original message |
67. Ya, because a 46 year-old black man should shut up and know his place |
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