Obama gaff guarantees the primary will not be over after PA

[GoldieAZ49]

or Indiana, North Carolina, etc, etc

"I'm not bitter" stickers are already being made, campaign commercials to follow. It has become a part of every stump speech of Clinton's.

McCain is talking about it because it can be used in the GE.


This will go to the convention, Obama's gaff will have even greater 'legs' in a GE, and Hillary can make her case to the super delegates.



Should be the most interesting convention ever!


Keep talking Obama, America is listening.

[Malvino]

1. I disagree

Obama's lead is too great to be overcome. The primaries can be said to be over as we speak.

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[Deja Q]

9. Well, if Maria and Arnold could, if you send us the pics of the two of you going at it...

:hide:

[2rth2pwr]

28. Bitter?

[stop the bleeding]

30. As an Obama supporter I gotta say your response is fucking childish

Get a grip and use your vernacular better, people will listen to what you say.

[melody]

3. Yup, your fella and Hillary are definitely aligning to kill the real Democrat

But that's the same old politics from the last twenty years.

[pingzing58]

35. As a life long democrat and voting straight tcket. I don't trust Obama.

Somthing strange about him. What would you say it is....

[melody]

36. As a lifelong Democrat and voting straight ticket, I don't trust any politician

But Hillary has given me more than a few reasons to deeply distrust her. I'll take solid reasons over
generalized anxiety any day.

[GarbagemanLB]

4. If this goes to the convention, McCain wins in November.

[melody]

7. Which is the whole point n/t

[Zachstar]

12. Bingo!!!

And worse than that we can kiss goodbye to democratic majorities in both houses.

If it goes to the convention the many many people that had been involved with the campaigns will bore out and likely leave politics and find better things to do.

There will be zip time afterwards to campaign.

Etc...

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[GoldieAZ49]

40. Maybe not:

whoever the nominee is coming out of the convention is going to get a huge bump in the polls, it being so close to the GE the repubs may not have enough time to regroup.

It could be the saving grace of this drawn out primary.

[Nedsdag]

47. Wrong.

The GOP Convention is the following week. It won't be much time for a huge bump for the Democrats.

The more the primary season is drawn out, the better it is for McCain and you know it.

[Bensthename]

5. Obama will rub it in her McCain like face.

[dkf]

6. I don't want to hear any more unhappy stories from Hillary people.

Because now we know that all of you are happy happy happy.

Go on with your heads in the sand.

[Tom Rinaldo]

19. I'm not "happy" about it

And I've already said so:

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=132&topic_id=5462306&mesg_id=5470153

Forget the spin. It is what it is. We will see how much if at all it matters.

[guyanakoolaid]

8. If Hillary's lies and bullshit didn't work, don't hold out hope for her new sticker machine

[Vinca]

10. I know this will make you bitter, but the numbers don't lie.

Unless Hillary figures out a way to disenfranchise all of Obama's voters. she won't be the nominee. If she actually manages to do that, she will alienate half the party and will be unable to win the general.

[MercutioATC]

11. A "gaff" is a pole with a hook used to get fish into a boat.

As far as Obama's supposed "gaffe", I hope it gets this kind of press through the NC primary. This is going to be good for him. He speaks truthfully about issues that other politicians are afraid to address and he does it in plain language...and, in doing so, raises the character of the discussion.

[GoldieAZ49]

46. Sorry for the typo

It will be interesting to see how it plays out in the remaining states.

[AllentownJake]

13. It might be funny

If this backfires on you guys. It's been 24 hours. Little early to be calling this thing over don't you think?

I'm going to be worried when you predict he's going to win...because than I know we will have lost.

[GoldieAZ49]

43. I don't think it is over

with just over 150 ish difference the SD are going to select the nominee. If either candidate had a lead larger than the SD count, then it would be over.

It will have to go to the convention because there is no way either will drop out when they are so close.

The stump speeches will end in June, the fundraising will continue and they will both continue to get press coverage with ups and downs for each all summer.


It will be over after the convention.

[AllentownJake]

48. Honestly

This will be decided before the convention one way or the other. There probably will be a super delegate caucus or Primary where you have to publically endorse. If the presumptive nominee does something stupid between that time and the convention it could be changed on the floor.

[tokenlib]

14. If there were two tables of buttons for sale...

..one with "I'm not bitter"

and another with "I'm bitter, pissed-off, fed-up."

Which table is going to sell more buttons?

[Texas Hill Country]

16. If McCain and the RW pundits keep talking about it, SD's will listen

you guys keep pretending that he has no negatives...

he has HUGE negatives, they are new and fresh and have not been POUNDED on by the RW machine yet.


This election cycle will be brutal beyond belief.

[GarbagemanLB]

22. You seem to forget it is HILLARY who is handing out fucking 'I'm not bitter!' stickers. Fuck off.

[grantcart]

17. Its only significant benefit is that it will encourage HRC supporters to contribute more and that

will continue it a little longer.

[JimGinPA]

18. You're Funny...

Pretending Hillary has a chance at the nomination. That's a good one.

:rofl:

[Bigleaf]

20. I'll tell you what:

Stick a fork in the fucking lying traitor, she's done.

[Zachstar]

21. Well I am glad some people are not bitter,I am glad their job pays as much as clinton or bush makes

:sarcasm:

It has no legs in anything. Obama turned it back on Clinton and McCain. The only legs it has is with their votes and their support of big business.

[AtomicKitten]

23. And we're tapping our feet patiently waiting for you to do the math.

It's already over for Hillary. Her only hope is a superdelegate coup d'etat and that isn't going to happen. She has lost SDs since Super Tuesday while Barack has gained some +70. That's a big giant clue for you. Open your eyes and quit supporting the knee-capping of Barack who will most certainly be the Democratic nominee.

[GoldieAZ49]

37. the shifting of SD support shows they are fluid and will continue to change

one way or the other until they cast a vote at the convention

Then we can do the math

[HCE SuiGeneris]

24. Hi KKKarl!

:hi:

[Milo_Bloom]

25. So the bitter people are making bumperstickers saying they are not bitter?

That's gonna be fun to see.

Sorry, there was no gaff... just a dose of reality.

[Major Hogwash]

42. There's bitter irony in that thar statement.

I've got to make one saying -

Irony is so ironic when McCain makes speechs about peace.

[cali]

26. put down your faux crystal ball and try to refrain from

pathetic hillarian wishful thinking. Oh, and cut the bullshit. You've been saying for ages that it will go to the convention. Hardly something new, as you pretend. We'll see what happens. Oh, and if you think that dem movers and shakers won't do everything possible to keep this from going to the convention, you're plumb politically ignorant. And yes, they can stop it.

[rucky]

27. Nice pundiction.

keep hope alive!

[NightOwwl]

29. Keep dreaming...

Oh btw, I have some purple bandaids for you in case your stickers don't work out.

[mapatriot]

31. American's are BITTER

My only disappointment with the "remark" is that Obama is offering an apology to anyone who was "offended". The fact is that this is going to work heavily in Obama's favor, because American's really are bitter......bitter at Bush and his cronies who have so damaged this nation. We are bitter about the economic situation; We are bitter at the disaster in Iraq; We are bitter about the response to Katrina; Bitter about so many other things that have turned the country on it's collective ear.

The amazing aspect about the whole story is that, unbelievably, McCain and Sen. Clinton, both of whom voted for the Iraq invasion, both of whom have been at the nexus of power in Washington for the last sixteen years, both of whom represent the kind of politization that is so damaging to the civil discourse, are FEIGNING offense at the "bitter" remark. Unbelievable!!

I couldn't disagree more with Goldie's post. This will be the final nail in the Clinton coffin. And I feel badly about that. Sen. Clinton is a great American and President Clinton was one of our finest Presidents -EVER! But their time is over and their recent conduct is pathetic and sad.

If Sen. Clinton should, by some miracle, get the nomination, I will support her and work hard for her. But I am convinced that won't happen and if she doesn't win Pennsylvania by at least ten points, she needs to rescue her dignity and good name by withdrawing and putting her full and considerable weight behind Obama so we can end the national nightmare.

[MattBaggins]

32. That is all very interesting

but the more important question we need to discuss; is how Clinton supporters intend to help Obama in winning the Ge since he will still be the nominee.

[GoldieAZ49]

49. We have been told repeatedly that our support is not needed

funny thing is, I think many have started to believe it.

The arrogance of the candidate and his supporters really isn't motivational. You know what I mean?

[FrenchieCat]

33. The Bitter stickers were made long ago.......as soon as the Clinton operative got

what was needed on tape.

However, voters have time to "mull it over"....and ask themselves just how further up their arms they are going to have to roll their sleeves to make any headway in this country? They will answer that question on April 22nd, and don't be surprised if the answer that they come up with may not be in keeping with Clinton's plan to win based on going against the truth of the message that Obama has made. To underestimate both Barack Obama and the American people may just be the last thing that Clinton's campaign does before breathing its last breath.

[fighterdem5]

34. Exaggeration

Obama's lead is insurmountable.

[Unsane]

38. And then maybe we can lose the election! Yay!

[FARAFIELD]

39. I like how hillary says she will fight for us

Then says we arent bitter. Yikes what tripe. Im going to enjoy seeing her get her ass kissed.

[Major Hogwash]

41. So, what you're saying is, Hillary's strategy to become the nominee depends on a gaffe from Obama?

That's not just weak, that's pathetic.

[GoldieAZ49]

45. It is politics

[Nedsdag]

52. No, it's pathetic.

It'll lose you 40 states come November if that she-devil is the nominee.

Bet on it!

[IamyourTVandIownyou]

44. Oh oh he better take his gaff back.

There was no gaffe.


Even the country club republicans are getting bitter.

[nsd]

50. My prediction: Obama will win both Indiana and North Carolina on May 6.

This will spur a massive movement of superdelegates to him the week following and force Clinton from the race.

More than that, it will force both Clintons out of our national political life, and that will be a joyous thing.

[gabeana]

51. This is what is going to happen

Obama is going to turn this around by middle of next week and Clinton supporters are going to blame the media