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PatGund Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-12-08 12:26 PM
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I'll tell you how bitter I am.
I'm raising my 6 year old daughter, while her mother lives 1,200 miles away. Her mum can't afford to help at this time.

I just lost my job end of last month. Lots of nibbles, no bites yet. For now, assuming unemployment comes though, I can make ends meet for a little bit longer.

I've seen my buying power go straight to hell in the last 8 years, I've seen everything this country used to stand for be shat on.

I spent a year living and working in the Middle East to make sure my daughter was provided for. In that time I discovered just how badly we've fallen in the world's eyes.

But I figured it would change in 2008. After all, people HAD to wake up sometime. And while my first choice for president (Gen. Wesley Clark) didn't run, there was such a wealth of people on the Democratic side that I figured we had an awesome chance. There were even a couple decent people on the GOP side that could have taken their party back from the NeoCon / Religious junta.

And gradually all the experienced people left, (including Gov. Richardson, who I thought was the best of the lot). And what was left?

The GOP had the 2008 version of Sen. McCain, who had rewritten himself from a "maverick" that told off the religious right, to a kowtowing lickspittle toady willing to push the same NeoCon crap that is destroying this country.

And the Democrats? We had a choice between:

Sen. Clinton, who had from day one acted like the nomination was just a formality and that the little people would get in line to vote for her. Never mind that the Right Wing had been frothing at the mouth to push her as the Democratic nominee ever since she became the jr. Senator from New York. What positive messages she put out were drowned in the aura of entitlement she projected, and it felt like she was running on her husband's resume, hoping that longing for the Clinton years would make people vote for her.

And the fact that the Right Wing wanted her so badly as the Democratic nominee made me worry a lot that they were trying to game the system to insure a GOP win. Failing that, would at least have someone who was "GOP-lite". Still, I figured she would be better than McCain, and at least slow down the downward spiral this country was in.

and

Sen. Obama, a relative newcomer to national politics, (though with more elected experience than Sen. Clinton). An apparent cypher, unknown to most. Lacking in experience, some good ideas, but over all it seemed like he may have been better to wait for another cycle. Maybe in 10 years, but now?? No. Besides which, I can't see his background playing well in so-called "red states", and I figured the "fix was in" from party insiders who were already going to go for Sen. Clinton.

In all, three uninspiring choices. Sen. Obama being marginally better than Sen. Clinton, and both being better than Sen. McCain v. 2008.

Then something happened. Sen. Obama started winning states. And delegates. And more and more his message started to get out there. And Sen. Clinton went from someone who assumed she had this in the bag and that the election was a mere formality, to someone who started saying and promoting the same right wing lies and liars that demonized her, her husband, and her daughter. And then there was saying that Sen. McCain would be better than Sen. Obama, a fellow Democrat. The Bosnia sniper lie. The faux outrage over whatever scandal they could make up. Inceasingly arrogant, insulting, and abusive behaviour from her campaigners and supporters. The politics of entitlement, and an attitude towards the American people of "don't worry your empty little heads, vote for Sen. Clinton and we'll take care of you. Unless you live in a state that didn't vote for me, in which case you don't count" Discounting those states that she lost, and creating faux outrage about two states that broke the rules that members of her campaign staff created in the first place. And over all else, the fake "if you don't support me unquestionably you're sexist" theme that pervaded her campaign, her supporters, and her attitude.

However, it seemed like nothing stuck. That the politics of destruction and made-up outrage didn't seem to be working in the case of Sen. Obama. That he took each blow not as something to bring him down or make some excuse for, but as a challenge to overcome.

And I started thinking "if he can overcome the challenges on the election trail, then he has a good chance of overcoming the challenges in office. Hmmmm....."

And the more I looked, I saw a person who actually told the truth about how things stand in the United States. Not empty promises and platitudes, but truth.

Then came the bitter speech. And you know what?

He was right again. People in this country ARE bitter about how things stand right now. People are seeing their jobs, their future being shipped overseas by the same companies that support Sen. McCain and Sen. Clinton. People are tired of not having health care, good paying jobs. People are bitter because the chances their parents had are disappearing or are already gone. In rural areas, the "rust belt", Detroit, all over the United States, people are tired of pie crust promises. And those in power spooked because those pie crust promises are what drove them into power in the first place.

Which is why we have the Admirals Son and the multi-Millionare calling Sen. Obama "elitist" and a "snob". Because Gods forbid people actually THINK about the reality of what he said.

People ARE bitter. People are angry. And people are hopeful that we can come out of it. Because we've had better days and can see what this country is capable of.

It's interesting to note that Sen. Obama has said his words could have been a bit better. Which is true. But he didn't repute the message behind those words. And well he shouldn't. Because he's right.

So yeah, I'm bitter. I'm angry. I hate the way this country is going, and despair at those who want to keep it on the same path to ruin.

I have to be careful of the money I spend right now. I need to focus on important things, food, rent, the liquid gold that is gasoline prices.

That being said, for the first time today since I supported Wes Clark in 2004, I donated $10 to Sen. Obama's campaign. It's not much, but it's what I can afford until I'm back to work.

And once that happens, I'll be happy to send more. Because Sen. Obama has gone from being "the best of a bad lot", to the best chance we have.


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DJ13 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-12-08 12:35 PM
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1. KICK!
....& Rec!

:kick: :nuke:
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PatGund Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-12-08 12:36 PM
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2. Thanks!
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Vinca Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-12-08 12:37 PM
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3. Brilliant post! nt
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PatGund Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-12-08 12:44 PM
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4. Thanks!
Edited on Sat Apr-12-08 12:45 PM by PatGund
I'm a 42 year old white male. I have a 6 year daughter. I know DAMN well this country can do better. And for my daughters sake - and for ALL the sons and daughters out there, we HAVE to do better than we've done.

We need someone to bring us all back up, not beat us down.

And now, for the first time since I heard Wes Clark first speak in 2003, I feel we have someone who can do that. Yes, people in the US are bitter. And throwing bullshit charges of "elitism" around does nothing to address the problems that are making people bitter and angry.

For too long the American people have been fooled into voting against their best interests. It's time to vote FOR our best interests. And if that's the "Politics of Hope", well hell, it's a lot better than the politics of destruction and corporate interest.
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Tatiana Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-12-08 12:44 PM
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5. Recommended. You speak for many of us.
I remember a time when all Democrats used to stand up for the economically downtrodden, instead of just telling them to be positive and resilient.
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PatGund Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-12-08 12:47 PM
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7. So do I.
So do I.

I watched the message that Gen Clark tried to speak in 2004 get washed away by the same old stale bulldada.

It's nice to see the same message go out and people responding to it!
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Jack Bone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-12-08 12:47 PM
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6. Kicked & Recommended!!
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stop the bleeding Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-12-08 12:49 PM
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8. Well said brother.
:beer:

K&R
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anonymous171 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-12-08 12:50 PM
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9. You're not bitter. You should just be happy and work harder.
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Nia Zuri Donating Member (576 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-12-08 01:14 PM
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20. Roll your sleeves up, be resilient!
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PatGund Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-12-08 01:27 PM
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26. *chuckle*
If I was any more resllient, I'd be silly putty...... :-)
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2rth2pwr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-12-08 12:50 PM
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10. This is a repeat for the slower one's around here. Nobody cares that he said people are bitter.
Some people are a little bothered that he called people in PA Corncob-Smokin', Banjo-Strokin' Chicken-Chokin' Cousin-Pokin' Inbred Hillbilly Racist Morons.
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Schema Thing Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-12-08 12:57 PM
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13. You are very plainly lying.
stop
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2rth2pwr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-12-08 01:02 PM
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16. Lying? where can you show me that people are upset at the word bitter?
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PatGund Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-12-08 01:25 PM
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25. The talking heads and pundits...
....on the right wing and in the Sen. Clinton camp are saying people should be bitter, that he was talking down to rural america, etc., etc., etc.

Thankfully, most people seem to be realizing that's a lot of smoke and mirrors from those trying to pretend that everything is hunky-dory
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2rth2pwr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-12-08 01:35 PM
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28. This is why people can't see the damage that Obama has done.
People are upset at what Obama says they do because they are bitter, not that they are bitter.
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PatGund Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-12-08 01:51 PM
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30. wow...
Edited on Sat Apr-12-08 01:52 PM by PatGund
that made no sense at all. "People are upset at what Obama says they do because they are bitter, not that they are bitter." They're either bitter or not bitter, make up your mind.

BTW, cool Iron Man icon. :-)
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2rth2pwr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-12-08 02:03 PM
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31. People aren't upset that someone may describe them as bitter. They are upset that
Obama says they cling to their religion, their hunting tradition, and opposition to NAFTA as a reaction to being bitter.

Many have a faith in god that precedes any feelings of bitterness.

Hunting with their Grandfathers gun has nothing to do with being upset at empty political promises.

etc,etc..
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PatGund Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-12-08 02:13 PM
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32. Funny...
That's not what I saw him saying.

What I saw him saying is that, in a world when it seems everything else is being taken from them, people cling onto those things that make them comfortable or provide stability.

Religion

Hunting and gun ownership, (I'm a gun owner too, BTW)

And yes, there's bitterness towards NAFTA, and the feeling that their future was sold up the river for empty promises and 30 pieces of silver. (and if they want to look at the people responsible for NAFTA, one of it's biggest supporters, and the wife of the president who signed it, is running against Sen. Obama.)

The bitterness comes from those who use those issues as a wedge to drive people apart. For too long people have used those wedge issues to convince people to vote against their best interests. And most people will cling on to those issues until it becomes painfully obvious they were used against them, That would make ANYONE bitter.
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cali Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-12-08 01:00 PM
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15. Hillary is a lying piece of ......
Edited on Sat Apr-12-08 01:08 PM by cali
you clearly follow her example.
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2rth2pwr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-12-08 01:04 PM
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17. People are upset at what Obama says people do in response to being bitter.
Not that there is bitterness.

If you can't figure that out, you will be continually confused at the blowback.

Obama's chickens, are coming home, to roost!
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anonymous171 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-12-08 01:04 PM
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18. This is going to blow up in Hillary's face.
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PatGund Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-12-08 01:42 PM
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29. Agreed!
It's not that Sen. Clinton isn't smart. Hell, it's not that she doesn't have any good ideas - she does.

She's got some horrible negatives right off the start though. fueled in part by over 16 years of Right-Wing demonization that has made her out to be the next best thing to Satan's harlot.

For going though all that, she has earned a lot of respect.

But that respect is marred by the fact she's now kissing up to the same people who demonized her, (not that she's alone, Sen. McCain is doing the same thing)

Rather than take a stand against those who attacked her and her husband, she's worked to align herself with them.

And since her plan to have this wrapped up by "Super Tuesday" failed, she's been using the same tactics of destruction that her critics used against her.

Because of that, all the positive things she could do, could stand up for, have been swamped by negative campaigning.

We can do better. We MUST do better.
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Drunken Irishman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-12-08 01:09 PM
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19. You wish.
You're gonna be in for a big surprise when this blows up in Hillary's face, just like the Rev. Wright issue did.

I feel bad for Hillary and her supporters, because they actually think Americans are stupid to the point where they won't understand Obama. But they're not and that's why Hillary is losing big right now. I think this primary season has shown most Americans are smart enough to see through her bullshit.

And thank God for that! I guess after 7 years of Bush, they know how to spot a bullshitter and a liar. :)
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PatGund Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-12-08 01:19 PM
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23. There's a old saying that comes to mind -
"You lie like a rug".

One of the things I cited was the attitude and insults coming from Sen. Clinton's camp and her supporters. Thanks for proving the point.
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PaulaFarrell Donating Member (840 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-12-08 02:26 PM
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35. link? n/t
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DearAbby Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-13-08 01:22 AM
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41. Link please....
"Corncob-Smokin', Banjo-Strokin' Chicken-Chokin' Cousin-Pokin' Inbred Hillbilly Racist Morons" I want to see that quote...do you have a link?
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BumRushDaShow Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-13-08 10:24 AM
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45. *crickets*
Ironically, this is what Clinton supporters really think of the people who they sucker into supporting and voting for her.
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nichomachus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-12-08 12:50 PM
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11. The problem with Obama is . . .
he speaks to Americans as if they were adults and he tells the truth.

Americans -- even on the Democratic side -- are so used to being lied to and treated as if they were children that the truth is shocking to them. As Jack Nicholson said -- they can't handle truth.

I lived in a small town -- 2,000 people -- and Obama is dead-on. This morning I had breakfast with a friend who grew up in a really really small town. He felt the same way.

The thing is that people in small towns aren't stupid. They know what's going on there. Obama may have been "unpolitical" in telling the unvarnished truth, but Hillary and the others are totally patronizing in romanticizing life in a small town. They are the ones who are talking down to people.
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cali Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-12-08 12:52 PM
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12. you brought a tear to my cynical eye
k&r and good luck finding the right job.
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PatGund Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-12-08 01:31 PM
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27. thanks!
Lots of nibbles, no bites yet, but a lot of hopefuls.

I'm a damn good Macintosh repair technician and administrator with scientific and international experience. So I don't think I'll be out of work long. Worse comes to worse, I pick up another temp contact. (Far worse comes to far worse, I look for another stint in the Persian Gulf)
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sniffa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-12-08 12:58 PM
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14. Incredible post. Thank you.
I hope things brighten for you and your and daughter (and all of us for that matter). Another K&R from me. :hi:
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PatGund Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-12-08 02:14 PM
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33. Thanks!
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babylonsister Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-12-08 01:14 PM
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21. Outstanding post! Thanks for sharing, and I agree wholeheartedly!
:thumbsup: I've been an Obama fan a lot longer than you have, but am glad you can see his value and potential for all of our futures.
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SunsetDreams Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-12-08 01:17 PM
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22. Touching post!
I shed a few tears on that one. Best of luck to you finding a job!

You sound like a very caring father, I admire that a great deal.

We parents should worry about what kind of future our children will have in America.

Bless you and your daughter, help is coming soon....YES WE CAN!
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PatGund Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-12-08 01:23 PM
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24. She's simply the most important thing in my life
Edited on Sat Apr-12-08 01:23 PM by PatGund
And even though her mum and I are no longer together, we're both committed to giving her the best we can and raising her to be a strong, bright happy person that knows she can grow up to be anything she wants to be. (Her mum is from the UK, and we're raising her to know and be proud of both her countries.)

She's got the stubborn part down pat :-)
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crispini Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-12-08 02:19 PM
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34. You just made me tear up.
Bless you. Your $10 is the gift of a sincere heart.
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quantass Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-12-08 03:50 PM
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36. A HUGE KICK -- Thanks for sharing your life with us!
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Tatiana Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-13-08 12:42 AM
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37. KICK
:kick:
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futureliveshere Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-13-08 12:47 AM
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38. Wow, great post and honest emotions.. That 10$ is priceless because of the emotions attached to it.
All the best to you. Hope you come through in flying colors.
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quiller4 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-13-08 12:53 AM
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39. Very ,very well said. .
People are bitter and with good reason. Obama understands this and he is brave enough to talk about it.
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Diane R Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-13-08 01:15 AM
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40. Fabulous post. Obama's campaign is built on the ten dollars sent by everyone like you and me.
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DemReadingDU Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-13-08 10:02 AM
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42. morning kick
Edited on Sun Apr-13-08 10:34 AM by DemReadingDU

Edit: I'm really sorry about your job. I've lost mine too, I know what you are going thru. Hope things get better for you soon.
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MethuenProgressive Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-13-08 10:03 AM
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43. That's why you're anti-immigrant, too?
According to BO, you are.
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PatGund Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-13-08 06:18 PM
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51. I have nothing against legal immigration or worker status.
Having worked overseas on a Qatari workers residence visa, I'm quite familar with the concept of working in a foreign country to support one's loved ones.

Illegal immigration? I feel for the people who have to. But it doesn't change the fact that they're in this country illegally.
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BumRushDaShow Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-13-08 10:15 AM
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44. "Success is taking adversity in stride".
Heard that little ditty last night on the radio from of all things, one of a series of 1 minute segments on historic moments in golf's Master's Tour. I think that segment was about how Jack Nicklaus, after hitting a ball into the woods, managed to not only get it out, but to birdie the hole with a 23 ft put, and eventually win the tournament (this was back in the '60s I believe).

I thought this statement aptly applied here on how Obama has weathered the most egregious and nonsensical crap thrown at him.
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Bonobo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-13-08 10:30 AM
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46. Another great post from an embittered Obama supporter. K&R!
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Cresent City Kid Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-13-08 10:45 AM
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47. Exactly
I am in almost the same boat as PatGund, 43, just laid off, waiting for unemployment, and bitter. The big difference is I don't have a 6 year old to support, and I sincerly wish you the best of luck.

When I first heard about this ruckus, I wondered what the hell he could have said to generate the response. Did he forget the mic was on and say, "I've got these suckers eating out of my hand"? After reading his comments, I'm still wondering what is so controversial. Do his critics contend that people aren't bitter?

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PatGund Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-13-08 06:20 PM
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52. His critics seem to think that
everything is sweetness and light and gosh-darn isn't everything going great and if you just worked a BIT harder for less pay, it would be perfect!

Which is not surprising, since it seems they feel corporate citizens are the only ones with rights in this country.
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libnnc Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-13-08 10:49 AM
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48. You should save this post and send it as a letter to the editor
Edited on Sun Apr-13-08 10:50 AM by libnnc
to your local newspaper. What you've written is important and should be read by others outside "the DU".

I'm serious.

Well done.
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PatGund Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-13-08 06:21 PM
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53. Thanks!
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WillyT Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-13-08 11:07 AM
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49. Excellent Post !!! - K & R !!!
:bounce::kick::bounce:
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Froward69 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-13-08 11:27 AM
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50. You said it Brother!!!
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ChazII Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-13-08 06:28 PM
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54. Life has been crap
for me since 1984. Doesn't seem to matter who is in White House or on the hill.
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cordelia Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-13-08 06:36 PM
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55. Very eloquent and moving. Wanted to K&R
Edited on Sun Apr-13-08 06:38 PM by cordelia
but I didn't notice them time.

Oops.

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TexasLady Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-13-08 06:46 PM
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56. as a mom of five, I feel you SO much with this post

Five bucks used to get me down the road, so liquid gold indeed! Now it isn't enough to spit in my tank.

I'm STILL not in a financial position to donate, hell I barely donated here at DU again. But maybe one day...soon..
No More Armageddon Presidents.
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