If you cannot think of a reason to oppose Hillary except sexism...

[Prophet 451]

...then you look for persecution where there is often just disagreement.

Let me make this clear, I'm for Obama but I'm not wildly hostile to a Hillary nomination or presidency. If elected, I'm sure she'd make a decent president, I simply think Obama would make a better and possibly a great one. Granted also, much of the MSM's coverage of Hillary's campaign has been littered with implied (and occasionally explicit) sexism. Granted, once again, that a certain faction of Obama's supporters (and Hillary's, for that matter) have gone simply batshit and use sexist terms and frames to oppose Hillary.

All of that granted, we're still talking about a fairly small minority of Obama supporters here. The majority of Obama supporters aren't sexist. The majority of Obama supporters aren't calling her "bitch", "whore" or "cunt" (I apologise to anyone who feels offended by the words but I believe in confronting offensive language head on, that using such words removes the power from them). We might use those words in an intimate setting with a consenting partner but most of us aren't directing them at Hillary. A small but loud portion of fanatical Obama supporters are and I agree, that's reprehensible but don't blame the majority for the crimes of the minority.

I'm a history buff and one of the areas that fascinate me are the Inquisitions. The attitude taken by the Inquisitions was that no sane person (and it's worth pointing out that their victims were largely but not entirely women) would or could reject the embrace of mother church. Therefore, anyone who did must be either insane or in the service of devils. Now, I'm not arguing that the Hillary supporters are as bad as the Inquisitions. That's taking hyperbole too far, even for me but for an annoyingly loud number, there is a suggestion of the same mindset: That no sane person would reject the embrace of Hillary and therefore, anyone who does must be crazy or a cultist or, most often, sexist. It's a zero-sum game; if x, then y and it's insulting.

There are many good reasons to support a Hillary nomination. There are also many good reasons to support an Obama nomination and there are good reasons to oppose the nomination of either. In other words, if you cannot concieve of a reason why someone would choose Obama over Hillary except sexism, then it is you who has the problem, not them.

[Life Long Dem]

1. How about being a victim and not a leader? n/t

[SunsetDreams]

2. I'm not against her because of sexism

I'm against her because of her lies.

[MonkeyFunk]

3. No, not every criticism of Clinton is sexist

but I see you guys deliberately ignoring those that ARE blatantly sexist. Why pretend such attacks don't exist? A whore, a bitch, a witch. Cackling. Emotional. Menopausal. Etc. etc. etc.

[Prophet 451]

9. I'm not pretending they don't exist

Some of the attacks on Clinton *are* over the line but I've noticed a tendancy among some (not all or even a large minority) Clinton supporters to pretend there is no other reason to support Obama.

[C_U_L8R]

4. I'm not voting for a liar

and Hillary has lied to us so much I've lost count.
And her husband has lied too.
Not only his own lies but he lied about Hillary's lies.
That's a new height of lying, even for a liar.
The Clintons have outdone themselves.
The liars.

[mmonk]

5. I am against her as a nominee based primarily

on the people connected to her campaign versus those connected to Obama's. I see people such as Holbrooke and I look at Obama's people and see people like Power. On domestic issues, they seem pretty close with no huge enough differences. But I still look at the possiblities of both administrations and the support of the different factions (such as Bayh, Nelson, Wasserman Schultz) and came to a conclusion shortly after the field whittled down. I make my determinations as intellectual as possible in terms of congruence with my views.

[susankh4]

6. Noone is saying that every criticism of Clinton is sexist.

That is an overstatement.

But the fact that there are valid criticisms of either candidate, doesn't change the fact that misogyny is rampant in our culture... and our media. Anyone trained to spot it can see it from miles away. Including... folks like Elton John, who watch from overseas.

I would be happy to support Mr. Obama.... if he gets the nod. His supporters, however, need to be very cautious about labelling all Hillary supporters as hysterical and deluded. Many of us are highly educated, and trained to recognize female oppression. We know misogyny when we see/ hear it. It leaves a *bitter* taste in our mouths. And that is not something Mr. Obama needs associated with his candidacy.

[Prophet 451]

7. I disagree

Yes, misogyny is rampant in American culture (less so in my own culture (British) but still there). I think a small (but very loud) faction of Hillary supporters ARE claiming any criticism of her is sexist. Straight away, I will concede that that is not the majority or even a very large minority, my post isn't directed at the sensible, intelligent supporters of Senator Clinton's candidacy (of which, there are legion), it is directed only at the nutcases.

[susankh4]

12. Well, I'll simply say

I have yet to meet one of your "nutcases."

If you do know one, please introduce him to me!

[Blarch]

8. She is a liar.

[lapfog_1]

10. I am against her because she is not a Democrat. - n/t

[Bensthename]

11. Saying people are against Hillary because of sexism is an easy out.

It may have something to do with her lies and putting McCain above Obama, etc.