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H2O Man Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-11-08 04:08 PM
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I watched the movie "Backbeat" this morning. It was a story about the group that would become The Beatles, during their time in Hamburg, Germany. It was interesting to me, in part because I had been reading an internet account of a person who claimed to have had a verbal confrontation with a young person going door-to-door as a volunteer. I have no idea if anything resembling the situation described took place; my interest in reading it was in the manner that some people belittle the younger generation that is becoming such an important part of the 2008 democratic primary contest.

"Backbeat" tells the story of how John, Paul, and George, along with Pete Best, Stuart Sutcliff, and Astrid Kichener. They are the same age, in the film, as the young folks who will be voting in their first presidential election in November. They are the same age as the young folks that the republican machine is willing to sacrifice to the orgy of violence, death and destruction in Iraq – and that candidate John McCain is sounding increasingly willing to involve in a conflict with Iran.

The kids named John, Paul and George who were in Hamburg in 1960 weren’t the same adults that were making music in 1980. They were still making music that translated their perceptions of life experiences into song, but they had changed. That is going to be the same for the 20-year olds out campaigning today. When they are 40, their message will be different. The truth is that if anyone is the same at 40 as they were at 20, they have wasted two decades of life.

It is easy to belittle people, young or old, who have the energy to get out and work on a campaign. It really takes no talent at all to downplay the importance of what they are doing, and to then exaggerate the old "I told him…" bit. But the real question isn’t "what happened?" – but "why?" Why should any democrat insult a young person, no matter which democratic candidate they are campaigning for?

I encounter a lot of young people, in part because my own children’s friends feel welcome to hang out at our house, and in part because I still do presentations to classrooms and student groups. I meet young people who have a wide range of political and social beliefs. Most of them are either democrats, or to the left on the political/social spectrum.

More, they tend to support Barack Obama. Last weekend, I asked a group why? They pointed out the documentaries on Martin Luther King, Jr., which were on, and said that my generation had had him and the Kennedy brothers. They said that although Obama isn’t the same as those three, that his being had been molded in part by them. He is the voice that is expressing what they think and feel.

I asked for their opinion on why there is the amount of acrimony between the Clinton supporters and the Obama camp? My younger son – who agrees with his father that all life imitates boxing – said that it is similar to the hostilities between the Oscar de la Hoya and Pretty Boy Floyd Mayweather fans. He noted that Obama has near perfect political balance, much as Floyd has uncanny balance in the ring: because of this, no matter what the opponent throws at him, it is either blocked or simply misses, and then he lands hard counter punches to the off-balance and exposed opponent.

The young people who will be voting in their first presidential election have a different set of experiences that mold their outlook. As they are 18 to 22 now, we should appreciate that their views are the result of things including 9/11; the "forgotten" war in Afghanistan; the Bush administration’s lies that led to the war in Iraq; the failure of Congress to honor their oath to protect the Constitution; and an economy that makes a college education and a job take on different meanings than they did a generation or two ago.

I’ve had the pleasure of talking to young adults who support Senator Barack Obama, as well as some who voted for Senator Clinton in the NYS primary. I’ve also enjoyed talking to others who favored either a different candidate, or who are convinced that the current two-party system needs to be drastically changed. I am encouraged that they are interested in the system – because the truth is that there are plenty of powerful forces invested in discouraging them. Every time they exercise the democratic muscles found in the Bill of Rights, I know that our country becomes that much stronger.
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redqueen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-11-08 04:17 PM
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1. Great stuff... as usual.
K&R
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H2O Man Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-11-08 04:23 PM
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3. Thank you.
I think that democrats should be encouraged by young adults being active in the political process.
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redqueen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-11-08 04:35 PM
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5. I agree completely... it's very encouraging
considering how many times I've talked to young people and found them so jaded and cynical, and thinking there's no point in being engaged, and in trying to make things better.

It's quite a turnaround.
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H2O Man Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-11-08 04:41 PM
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8. It is.
And it's fun to talk to them about things like why, in their opinions, some older democrats would be saying negative things about the participation of young adults in the campaign? And what do they think the corporate media's agenda is? This generation is often very well informed, and have some interesting insights. It is quite a turnaround.
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Me. Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-11-08 04:22 PM
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2. I Have Been Interested In The Way Children Have Influenced Their Parents
Caroline Kennedy and Casey come immediately to mind nut there are others. I am also impressed that these parents are listening to their kids.
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H2O Man Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-11-08 04:36 PM
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6. Right. One of the
things that Chris Matthews suggested to the Obama campaign is that they focus on the colleges in PA, because of how the message reaches parents.
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Me. Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-11-08 04:45 PM
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9. I Noted
That his daughter is an Obama supporter.
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H2O Man Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-11-08 05:26 PM
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11. Yep.
It is interesting to think about the generational factor -- it is certainly a factor in much the same way that sex and race are. In each case -- sex, race, and age -- we are seeing both the positive and negative potentials in this primary.
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AtomicKitten Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-11-08 04:29 PM
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4. Very nice. K&R
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H2O Man Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-11-08 04:37 PM
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7. Thank you. n/t
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David Zephyr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-11-08 04:47 PM
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10. K&R.
As always, I enjoy reading your posts.
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H2O Man Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-11-08 05:28 PM
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12. Thank you.
I suspect that you are of a generation that had the experience of having "adult society" react harshly when young folk questioned things like a war in a distant land, and its relationship to all of the ugly "-isms" in our society.
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grantcart Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-11-08 05:29 PM
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13. Up until a few months ago I was very concerned about this generation.
They have been programmed by a school system not to ask questions and not make a ruckus. Think how few demonstrations there have been against the war on college campuses. Now we are begining to see the awakening - I hope it continues and grows.
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H2O Man Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-11-08 05:37 PM
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14. My daughters
(who are pre-voting age) like to listen to my record collection. They have found Steppenwolf's "Moster," which has become one of their favorites.

Once the religious, the hunted and weary
Chasing the promise of freedom and hope
Came to this country to build a new vision
Far from the reaches of kingdom and pope
Like good Christians, some would burn the witches
Later some got slaves to gather riches

But still from near and far to seek America
They came by thousands to court the wild
And she just patiently smiled and bore a child
To be their spirit and guiding light

And once the ties with the crown had been broken
Westward in saddle and wagon it went
And 'til the railroad linked ocean to ocean
Many the lives which had come to an end
While we bullied, stole and bought our a homeland
We began the slaughter of the red man

But still from near and far to seek America
They came by thousands to court the wild
And she just patiently smiled and bore a child
To be their spirit and guiding light

The blue and grey they stomped it
They kicked it just like a dog
And when the war over
They stuffed it just like a hog

And though the past has it's share of injustice
Kind was the spirit in many a way
But it's protectors and friends have been sleeping
Now it's a monster and will not obey

(Suicide)
The spirit was freedom and justice
And it's keepers seem generous and kind
It's leaders were supposed to serve the country
But now they won't pay it no mind
'Cause the people grew fat and got lazy
And now their vote is a meaningless joke
They babble about law and order
But it's all just an echo of what they've been told
Yeah, there's a monster on the loose
It's got our heads into a noose
And it just sits there watchin'

Our cities have turned into jungles
And corruption is stranglin' the land
The police force is watching the people
And the people just can't understand
We don't know how to mind our own business
'Cause the whole worlds got to be just like us
Now we are fighting a war over there
No matter who's the winner
We can't pay the cost
'Cause there's a monster on the loose
It's got our heads into a noose
And it just sits there watching

(America)
America where are you now?
Don't you care about your sons and daughters?
Don't you know we need you now
We can't fight alone against the monster
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PA Democrat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-11-08 05:46 PM
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15. Nice post. K & R.
My son mentioned to me that there has been either a Bush or a Clinton in the White House his entire life. I'm not surprised that many younger voters want something different, based upon the experiences they have witnessed in their lifespans.

I'm thrilled to see more young people involved in the political process. In 2004, their demographic was the only age group that Kerry won. More than older Americans, they saw how badly the country needed a change in direction then. I am happy to have them join the cause to get the country back on track.
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H2O Man Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-11-08 05:51 PM
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16. That's an important point.
Since 1980, there has been either a Bush or Clinton in the executive branch.
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Scurrilous Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-11-08 07:11 PM
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17. K & R
Great post! :thumbsup:
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H2O Man Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-11-08 07:15 PM
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18. Thanks! n/t
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H2O Man Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-11-08 09:34 PM
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19. My dog had puppies today.
Under normal circumstance, all pets that reside here are "fixed." It has been about 40 years since one of my dogs had puppies.

This may or may not qualify as a reason for the average DUer to read, respond to, and perhaps even nominate this thread.
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