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ecstatic Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-11-08 10:13 AM
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Why aren't the Clintons funding their own campaign?
Romney did... If Senator Clinton is so positive she can win, why isn't she putting her money where her mouth is?

Why is she complaining about her campaign being outspent, yet she refuses to reach for her own wallet?

Why take money from so called "down scale" voters while she's racking up hundreds of thousands of dollars from Columbia, etc.?
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TexasObserver Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-11-08 10:16 AM
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1. They're too greedy to do that.
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lisa58 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-11-08 10:17 AM
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2. They may have to before it's over.
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damntexdem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-11-08 11:38 AM
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3. Hey, they didn't make $109 million in recent years by investing in losing propositions!
And, after all, they just have to spend so much of their precious campaign cash on WHINING and dining.
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MonkeyFunk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-11-08 11:43 AM
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4. Why didn't John kerry? Why didn't John Edwards?
Plus, THEY are not running for President. Hillary is. She hasn't made nearly as much as Bill.

But it's not a sincere question anyway - you'd attack her if she DID fund it herself. Just another bogus attack on a good democrat by the Hope faction.
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TheWraith Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-11-08 02:07 PM
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25. A "good democrat" (small "d") who voted for the war, clusterbombing civilians, and landmines? Hm. NT
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MonkeyFunk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-12-08 05:15 AM
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27. a good democrat
with almost exactly the same stand on issues as Barack Obama.

The notion that she's far right and he's far left is just ludicrous.
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Aloha Spirit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-11-08 12:16 PM
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5. They need $$ for legal bills probs (eom)
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jasmine621 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-11-08 12:17 PM
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6. Same reason Obama isn't funding his own campaign. Obama will be Owned
by the hidden but now exposed bundlers. He is against public financing of campaigns and now we see why. Hillary is playing the same game but is not PRETENDING to do otherwise.
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cali Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-11-08 12:24 PM
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8. as moronic as the OP
The vast majority of money raised by Obama is from small donors. god, i'm sick of fucking stupid.
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Obamanaut Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-11-08 12:47 PM
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14. Is stupid sick of it too? Try some other recreational activity. nt
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cali Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-11-08 12:22 PM
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7. that's ridiculous
why should she, for one thing, and she doesn't have that kind of money for another. She's already spent more than she and bill have.
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mtnsnake Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-11-08 12:25 PM
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9. Dumbest question of the year
For one thing, Romney is the exception to the rule, and he had little choice.

Why the fuck should Clintons fund their campaign when they're doing remarkably well otherwise? Is Obama funding his own campaign?

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SwampG8r Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-11-08 12:39 PM
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11. remarkably well?
maybe whe looked at thru these


otherwise....not so much
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MyNameGoesHere Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-11-08 12:52 PM
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17. As compared to romney
Edited on Fri Apr-11-08 12:53 PM by LibFromWV
she has done well. Perhaps it isn't the glasses but a severed neuro-transmitter?





Why is Superman checking out my ass?
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mtnsnake Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-11-08 12:53 PM
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18. Yes remarkably well. Name any other politician, other than Obama, who has raised more money than her
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SwampG8r Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-11-08 01:07 PM
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20. this election cycle or any ?
comparatively adjusted to todays dollar or a straight comparison dollar for dollar?
in the US or worldwide?
i already know you are mistaken
i just want to find out by what standard you are mistaken

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mtnsnake Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-11-08 01:54 PM
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23. this election cycle, unless Hillary ran for President some other time that I'm not aware of
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crankychatter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-11-08 12:25 PM
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10. "Tee-hee, I just found out my husband is rich"
maybe bill gives her an allowance
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Araxen Donating Member (826 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-11-08 12:45 PM
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12. The Clintons should put their money where their mouths are
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leftynyc Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-11-08 02:24 PM
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26. Were you asking the same of John Edwards?
If not, perhaps it's time to ask yourself why not.
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SoonerPride Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-11-08 12:46 PM
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13. They're saving their money for their new home in Dubai
Come November they will no longer be welcome in America.
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Beaverhausen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-11-08 12:49 PM
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15. Do you only want the wealthy to be able to run for president?
If that's the country you want to live in, well I just don't know.
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BlueIdaho Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-11-08 12:51 PM
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16. Perhaps they are
We won't know until we see her April info.
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Tierra_y_Libertad Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-11-08 12:55 PM
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19. Why should they, when the suckers will foot the bill?
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anonymous171 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-11-08 01:07 PM
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21. Looks weak. Remember Romney?
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onenote Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-11-08 01:15 PM
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22. because she, unlike you, can add.
Edited on Fri Apr-11-08 01:21 PM by onenote
Let's see. She and Bill had "gross" income of $109 million in the past eight years. Assuming that she had absolutely no other expenses (which apparently is the fantasy world in which the OP lives) other than taxes and her charitable contributions, she is left with in the neighborhood of $60 million. (Of course, she did have expenses, including north of $10 million in legal fees).

But anyway, let's consider how much the campaign is costing: $1 million a day or more the last few months. OVer 30 million in February alone.

Now, since you've raised Mr. Romney, let's look at the facts. His net (not gross) worth has been estimated to be as much as $350 million. I don't know how much he gave/lent his campaign, but I do know that (a) he didn't self-finance -- he raised money from donors as well as giving/lending his own money and (b) he raised more from third parties than he put in from his own funds.


On edit: I checked opensecrets.org --
Romney raised over $105 million, around 60 percent from third parties, around 40 percent from himself. If you assume his net worth is 350 million, his 40 million loan/contribution equals around 11 percent of his net worth.

If you figure HRC only made the one $5 million loan to her campaign reported, and that her net worth is no more than 50 million, then she ponied up 10 percent -- right in line with Romney.

http://www.opensecrets.org/pres08/summary.asp?id=N00000286&cycle=2008

So, as an Obama supporter, I would suggest that you stop asking questions that only embarass yourself.
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Tom Rinaldo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-11-08 02:05 PM
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24. Why is Obama burning up cash three times faster than Clinton
If he is so far ahead and his supporters say he can't lose? Why is he still appealing for more money?

These are silly questions. Obama spends in one month what both Clinton's collectively make in four years BEFORE income taxes and their charitable tithing. We have way moved past the point where anyone other than Mayor Bloomberg or Ross Perot can self fund their own campaigns.
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AllentownJake Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-12-08 06:27 AM
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28. They probably are at this point
We won't hear about it till after the PA primary.
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gear_head Donating Member (107 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-12-08 06:36 AM
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29. because they don't have to ... n/t
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Cessna Invesco Palin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-12-08 06:37 AM
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30. Because their entire fortune is only enough to run their campaign for a month, maybe?
Elections are fucking expensive!
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susankh4 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-12-08 06:38 AM
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31. I seem to remember that
when she did front money to her camp... the Obama folks were all over her for being unethical.

Which is it? Should she, or should she not?

Here's an idea... why don't ya'll quit trying to buy this election? Send your money to Greenpeace, or the Humane Society, or the Pink Ribbon drive .... and let your millionaire candidate fund *his* own campaign?
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AllentownJake Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-12-08 08:59 AM
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32. I don't care
Where she gets the funding. Just as long as it is disclosed.
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Hepburn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-12-08 09:04 AM
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33. That $800K Bill got out of the Colombia deal....
...that could be used! :evilgrin:
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