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Ichingcarpenter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-10-08 12:30 PM
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Bill Clinton raised $1.5 for Charity then pockets $450,000 of it
Talks not cheap for Bill Clinton

Chicago Tribune
April 10, 2008

When London socialite Renu Mehta sought to urge Britain's super-rich to give more to charity, she threw a fundraising dinner headlined by former President Bill Clinton, who has used his global star power to encourage large-scale philanthropy that stresses accountability.

Mehta declared the first gathering of her Fortune Forum, held Sept. 26, 2006, a rousing success. The event raised about $1.5 million and brought together dozens of billionaires, celebrities and activists to network about tackling such problems as global warming, water shortages and disaster relief.

But success came with a steep price. Fundraising costs consumed more than half of the proceeds, with $450,000 going to Clinton as a speaking fee, one of the largest he has collected as personal income.

Clinton's fee for his Fortune Forum appearance dwarfed the $280,000 the former president charged for a speech earlier in the day in London sponsored by a for-profit partnership and the $280,000 he received the next day for a speech in Dublin.>>>>snip

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izquierdista Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-10-08 12:31 PM
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1. Talk is cheap
NOT!
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ORDagnabbit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-10-08 12:32 PM
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2. He kept 30% which is within the Better Business Burea's okay range. they say over 35% bad.
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ORDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-10-08 12:34 PM
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6. Not to be snarky, but do we really want the BBB as our standard for anything?
:dem:
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roguevalley Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-10-08 06:00 PM
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46. no defense for this given the topic. I would be ashamed to do this.
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Starbucks Anarchist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-10-08 12:32 PM
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3. Enough with the big speeches!
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onehandle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-10-08 12:33 PM
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4. He's worse than Hitler.
Nice try.
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Vinca Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-10-08 12:33 PM
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5. It kind of hits me the same way it did when John Edwards took
money to speak about poverty. Forget where that was, but sometimes people would look a whole lot better if they made it a freebie.
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hfojvt Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-10-08 12:45 PM
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14. What? You expect him to go all the way to England for 3 whole days
for a mere $560,000? Yeah, I'm sure you would do that too, you hypocrite.
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Vinca Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-10-08 12:51 PM
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18. Half a million for 3 days? Count me in.
I'll work it in between cleaning the Clinton home office for $94,000 and picking John McCain's lettuce at $50 an hour.
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hfojvt Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-10-08 01:21 PM
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20. Just because you are willing to work for poverty wages
Don't expect a member of the royal family to do so.
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quantass Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-10-08 01:33 PM
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21. CORRECTION: It's $1.01 MILLION in 2-days
Edited on Thu Apr-10-08 01:37 PM by quantass
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hfojvt Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-10-08 01:45 PM
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32. it is two days, unless you count travel time
Edited on Thu Apr-10-08 01:49 PM by hfojvt
but SOME people are expecting Clinton to forego the other $450,000 and just work for a mere $560,000 while they themselves demand to be paid minimum wage and time and a half for overtime work. Really, the arrogance and hypocrisy is just staggering. These people seem to think that royalty is worth less than $1,000,000 dollars a day. Canaille. Pure canaille.
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TexasObserver Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-10-08 02:33 PM
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35. Bill feels your pain.
His snout has been in the trough since the day he walked out of the White House.

I have been so disappointed in him.

If I never see another Clinton or Bush on the ballot, it will be too soon.
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Texas Hill Country Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-10-08 06:07 PM
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48. he gave 327 speeches that year... and only ask to be paid for 83 IIRC
so 240 or so free speeches....

I'd say he did his part.
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hfojvt Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-11-08 02:02 AM
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61. That's kinda hard to tell
"He averaged almost a speech a day -- 352 for the year -- but only about 20 percent were for personal income. The others were given for no fee or for donations to the William J. Clinton Foundation, the nonprofit group he founded to pursue causes such as the fight against AIDS."

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2007/02/22/AR2007022202189.html

How many of them were free and how many were for donations to the Clinton Foundation? And many of the free ones may not have been free. For example, he spoke at Washington Days, the spring Democratic Convention in Kansas in 2007 and it was a $100 ticket to goto that speech. I am not sure if he got paid or not,
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thereismore Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-10-08 12:34 PM
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7. Sweet Jesus. nt
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stellanoir Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-10-08 12:35 PM
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8. Steph Miller covered this today.
And still they aren't paying their bills.

Unbelievable really.
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uberblonde Donating Member (993 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-10-08 12:38 PM
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10. "They" is a corporate entity separate from their personal finances.
And Bill Clinton charges many different levels of fees, as do most public figures.
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stellanoir Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-10-08 12:42 PM
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13. If Hill could loan her campaign 5 mil, so could Bill.
They should pay off their debts. They've screwed over colleges. Sheesh.
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MonkeyFunk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-10-08 12:49 PM
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16. Like John Edwards did?
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stellanoir Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-10-08 01:01 PM
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19. 55 grand is far less than what Bill charges and the Edwards run a charity too
in honor of their son. Elizabeth is fighting cancer. They have two kids who are still little.

The comparison is unbelievably dumb and thoroughly irrelevant.
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MonkeyFunk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-10-08 02:17 PM
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33. So edwards screwed 'em, just not as hard
is that your defense?
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crankychatter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-10-08 12:36 PM
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9. Feels like I got it on me just reading this one
that f****r fairly oozes...

never DID like that guy... felt the same way about Nixon

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hfojvt Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-10-08 12:39 PM
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11. that's what makes me proud to be a Clinton supporter
The way they have dedicated their whole lives to public service.
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Pawel K Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-10-08 12:50 PM
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17. And boy, has it payed off for them.
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quantass Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-10-08 01:36 PM
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23. Yea, as long as the public pays their way ...or else!
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SidDithers Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-10-08 12:40 PM
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12. Renu Mehta raised $1.5 million for charity...
and then had expenses that consumed more than half of the proceeds. Maybe she should have booked a less costly speaker.

Whether Clinton got paid, and how much, is immaterial. It wasn't his fundraising event.

Sid



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NashVegas Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-10-08 12:47 PM
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15. Bottom Line: He Delivered 3x What He Cost
I'm not sure what the complaint is.
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Levgreee Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-10-08 01:42 PM
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27. yeah, if you consider him "delivering" the money he took, otherwise he only delivered 1,050,000
and took 450,000, so he delivered 2.333 what he cost
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Zachstar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-10-08 11:49 PM
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53. The complaint is the many thousands of dollars to speak at a fundraiser.
Last time I checked it did not cost many thousands of dollars to get a flight, get a hotel, eat and speak.

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DB1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-10-08 01:35 PM
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22. So in 2 days Bill made over a million dollars for 3 speeches......
How much does secret service protection cost us for him? Maybe when he is raking in that kind of cash he should be obligated to reimburse.
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Diane R Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-10-08 01:39 PM
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24. I hope the voters in Pennsylvania get to see this information.
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QC Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-10-08 07:26 PM
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50. I could be wrong, of course,but I strongly suspect that they have Internet access in Pennsylvania.
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Catherina Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-10-08 01:39 PM
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25. Link please? This is worse than disappointing n/t
Edited on Thu Apr-10-08 01:40 PM by Catherina
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Ichingcarpenter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-10-08 01:43 PM
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29. I can't change my OP now, but here is the link
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Hepburn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-10-08 01:40 PM
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26. Just words....
...:eyes:
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grantcart Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-10-08 01:42 PM
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28. Making this kind of money - does Bill really want Hillary to get elected
It would cut down on his fun and income. Maybe this ole sly fox is acting crazy for a reason and laughing all the way to the bank.
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FrenchieCat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-10-08 01:44 PM
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30. Just words?
That's what I thought......using the Charitable Organization as a front to secure speaking gigs, Clinton profits directly.....while the Charitable Org foots the bill for travel, etc.....
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BlueIdaho Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-10-08 01:45 PM
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31. Well...
Just exactly how did we think he made 109 Million Dollars since leaving the White House? The big dog has no shame.
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catgirl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-10-08 02:28 PM
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34. But he sure is cocky!
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City Lights Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-10-08 03:05 PM
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38. The Big Dawg is more like a flea-infested mutt these days.
A real bloodsucker.
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Az_lefty Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-10-08 02:34 PM
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36. what a low life...it's a charity event, he should have spoken for free
:puke:
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City Lights Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-10-08 03:03 PM
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37. Did Elton John keep any of the $2.5 million he raised for her?
I'm shocked, just shocked that Bill Clinton would do such a thing.

Actually, I'm not.
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hfojvt Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-10-08 03:26 PM
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41. I am guessing Elton did get paid.
I am not sure if we will ever find out, one way or the other.
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City Lights Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-10-08 03:37 PM
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43. I wonder if his fee would be listed as an expenditure on her FEC filing.
I have no idea...
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Megahurtz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-10-08 03:06 PM
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39. LOL.
So typical. :eyes: You'de be surprised how many "Non-Profit" Organizations do this very same thing. The money never gets down to the people.

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hfojvt Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-10-08 04:08 PM
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44. sadly, it even happens at the local level
our local party spent about $800 on printing and postage to raise about $1800. There are not any cost-free ways to raise money that we know of.
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CreekDog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-10-08 03:15 PM
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40. the idea of him getting that much for a speech of all things
would kind of take the fun out of seeing one (for me).
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walldude Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-10-08 03:30 PM
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42. He's an ex-President. He brings in people...
that said, I'll tell you a little something about these rich folks "charity" dinners. They spend hundreds of thousands, sometimes millions of dollars on a huge lavish party to raise a couple hundred grand for charity. It's a fucking joke. It's a way rich people can keep spending on their "lifestyle" while convincing themselves they are doing a good deed.
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rinsd Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-10-08 04:27 PM
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45. The Fortune Forum sees it differently.
The first Fortune Form event on 26th September 2006 achieved massive global media coverage for the participating charities and the causes they espouse. Coverage in print and broadcast form had the opportunity to be seen by over 300 million people globally, more than the combined population of the UK, France, Germany and Spain.

The advertising value equivalent of this coverage runs to over £4 million; well in excess of the annual advertising spend of any of the participating charities. The Fortune Forum was able to generate this priceless high level of consciousness raising in the public and specifically amongst the influentials at no cost to the charities benefiting, an effective donation of over £4 million to each participating charity

A complimentary copy of “The Fortune Forum Code”, a book extolling the basic needs of humanity, and how to achieve them, was distributed to over 500 of the most influential members of UK society at the event. The same group of influentials were exposed to the individual work and achievements of the participating charities during the event.

The participating charities were all also able to showcase their work and network with some of the leading media moguls in the UK and beyond who were present on the night. This networking opportunity has assisted the charities in achieving further media success via these contacts.

Carrying stories relating to the Fortune Forum and the attendant celebrities such as Bill Clinton have also generated increased traffic to participating charity websites as they are flagged up as a place to go for information on particular celebrities. This increased web traffic will have also promoted increased web donations as well as brand awareness.

Awareness of the Fortune Forum event and the charities involved reached
the attention of ministers and high ranking civil servants in the UK
Parliament and beyond with comments being fed back to this effect to
several participating charities.

The Fortune Forum combined advertising equivalent cost and profile
generated for each charity equalling that from the event was a staggering
£20 million pounds, a massive boost for the life giving projects that the
Fortune Forum supports.

http://www.fortuneforum.org/results.html
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Bensthename Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-10-08 06:05 PM
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47. $450,000 to speak at a charity fundraiser ?? OMG... Is that legal?
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azmouse Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-10-08 07:19 PM
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49. kick
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Taxmyth Donating Member (990 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-10-08 11:44 PM
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51. Bill pocketed $450,000 because he earned it
Same with the 100 million plus. 8 years of peace and prosperity under his leadership compares favorably with what any CEO did at any large corporation. People pay him a lot of money to show up and speak because he is a draw, and really, in 2008 these aren't extraordinary amounts.
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JTFrog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-11-08 04:32 AM
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65. When will we get reimbursed for Nafta and the repeal of Glass-Stegall then?
Edited on Fri Apr-11-08 04:33 AM by JTFrog
How about the Iraqis who were starved to death with sanctions or our own children who were starved under welfare reform; when will they be compensated?

8 fucking years of peace and prosperity my ass. 8 years of utter failure to fill house and senate seats thanks to president pinocchio's stage show.
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Stephanie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-10-08 11:48 PM
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52. This is the most egregious story of the day.
I wish I could re-recommend. Greed is a sickness.
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Zachstar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-10-08 11:52 PM
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54. This part is sickening, I hope people in PA see this.
"But success came with a steep price. Fundraising costs consumed more than half of the proceeds, with $450,000 going to Clinton as a speaking fee, one of the largest he has collected as personal income."

When the costs for a fundraiser take up half of the proceeds SOMETHING is WRONG!!!
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Taxmyth Donating Member (990 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-11-08 12:44 AM
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55. Whose fault is it
The organizers of the fund raiser or the talent they hired? They could have gotten the Rolling Stones for a similar amount.
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Zachstar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-11-08 12:48 AM
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56. Both
Bill for charging that much and the Organizers for paying it.

Whats next on the spin list Taxmyth?
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Taxmyth Donating Member (990 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-11-08 12:58 AM
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57. Sorry, don't see it that way
The organizers had the option to negotiate a better price or decline former President Clinton's requested fee. He's just doing what any other paid entertainer does. No spin needed here only common sense.
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Zachstar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-11-08 01:41 AM
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60. Then why are you using little?
I'm sorry but there is no reason for a speech to run 400k

Spin somewhere else!
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Taxmyth Donating Member (990 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-11-08 02:14 AM
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62. No spin needed
It's what the market would bear and as American as apple pie to quote an old saying. Nicole Kidman was paid $435,000 for a 25 minute speech. Donald Trump can make over $1,000,000 a speech. Maybe you wouldn't pay that much for a speaker but people do.
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Zachstar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-11-08 04:17 AM
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63. So why the hell do I care for what Nicole Kidman makes? Is she running for office?
Again this is all nothing but spin in my view. And while you think it is no big news. People that struggle on 50k a YEAR! See it as news!
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gulfcoastliberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-11-08 12:59 AM
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58. This plus Bill taking the $800K for supporting the Colombia FTA = easy to see how they made $100M
Edited on Fri Apr-11-08 01:14 AM by gulfcoastliberal
Obviously they've gotten their quid pro quo for ramming NAFTA down our throats. You know, I voted in my very first presidential election in 96 and voted for Clinton. Wish I could take it back now.

Hillary's campaign has been a real eye opener, and it isn't pleasant.
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nebula Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-11-08 01:04 AM
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59. Destroying jobs and livelihoods

and getting obscenely rich from it is the Clinton MO.
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TheDonkey Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-11-08 04:28 AM
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64. Tidy little profit there, dayum. eom
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