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berni_mccoy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-09-08 03:06 PM Original message |
Clinton's Catastrophic Failure of Judgment |
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panader0 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-09-08 03:15 PM Response to Original message |
1. 5th REC! |
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mudesi (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-09-08 03:29 PM Response to Original message |
2. kick (nm) |
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PATRICK (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-09-08 03:37 PM Response to Original message |
3. Backing up a bit |
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berni_mccoy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-09-08 03:57 PM Response to Reply #3 |
4. It all boils down to having your head screwed on so wrong that you corkscrew the entire nation |
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PATRICK (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-09-08 04:23 PM Response to Reply #4 |
5. Hope with some awareness |
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ginnyinWI (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-10-08 09:50 AM Response to Reply #3 |
55. interesting thoughts. |
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IsItJustMe (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-09-08 05:02 PM Response to Original message |
6. No arguement here. |
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ORDem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-09-08 08:45 PM Response to Original message |
7. K&R |
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samsingh (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-09-08 08:46 PM Original message |
did i read that right? $100,000 / day |
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stillcool (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-09-08 09:21 PM Response to Original message |
11. I thought so too... |
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samsingh (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-09-08 08:46 PM Response to Original message |
8. did i read that right? $100,000 / day |
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berni_mccoy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-09-08 09:09 PM Response to Reply #8 |
10. Sorry, but it's true. Check out Clinton's March FEC data at FEC.gov |
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grantcart (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-09-08 10:02 PM Response to Reply #10 |
12. I think that it includes a lot of direct mailing that the firm over sees as well. |
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dailykoff (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-09-08 08:56 PM Response to Original message |
9. I don't see it as a failure exaclty. |
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berni_mccoy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-09-08 10:21 PM Response to Reply #9 |
14. If she's being considered as the Democratic nominee, her judgement has failed her... though I see |
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dailykoff (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-09-08 11:19 PM Response to Reply #14 |
29. Right. She thought she had it all sewed up and Dems would fight to the death |
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grantcart (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-09-08 10:09 PM Response to Original message |
13. You have centered on a very interesting theme that is interesting to follow from time to time: |
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DemGa (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-09-08 10:27 PM Response to Original message |
15. You source "Daily Kos" to paint Clinton as a liar? |
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berni_mccoy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-09-08 10:31 PM Response to Reply #15 |
16. The Article on Kos was a LIST of articles from CBS, CNN, ABC, NBC, Bloomberg and Time |
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DemGa (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-09-08 10:36 PM Response to Reply #16 |
17. I won't click on Daily Kos |
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berni_mccoy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-09-08 10:41 PM Response to Reply #17 |
19. You are putting the tinfoil on thick. Good luck and |
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DemGa (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-09-08 10:45 PM Response to Reply #19 |
20. Just facts--- |
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berni_mccoy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-09-08 10:48 PM Response to Reply #20 |
22. Loosen the tinfoil a bit, will ya? |
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sallyseven (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-10-08 02:58 PM Response to Reply #22 |
100. Obama people think that they are above the law. |
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BlueIdaho (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-09-08 10:51 PM Response to Reply #20 |
24. Thank You! |
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EnviroBat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-10-08 07:45 AM Response to Reply #20 |
33. "Paints Clinton as a Liar"? |
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jettison (284 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-10-08 12:45 PM Response to Reply #20 |
86. lies |
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Carolina (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-10-08 05:46 PM Response to Reply #20 |
105. She doesn't have to be painted as a liar by anyone |
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shellgame26 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-09-08 11:34 PM Response to Reply #17 |
30. When will it occur |
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GOTV (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-10-08 11:37 AM Response to Reply #17 |
73. Here you go, now you don't have to click on Kos |
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DemGa (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-10-08 12:29 PM Response to Reply #73 |
80. And now you've linked to blogs/opinion? |
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jettison (284 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-10-08 12:49 PM Response to Reply #80 |
88. You will NEVER get it |
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RaleighNCDUer (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-10-08 09:00 PM Response to Reply #88 |
113. Of course he won't. |
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EnemyOfTheocracy (60 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-10-08 03:10 PM Response to Reply #80 |
102. so obama hypnotized her to lie about bosnia? |
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jettison (284 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-10-08 12:44 PM Response to Reply #17 |
85. At this point... |
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shellgame26 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-09-08 11:36 PM Response to Reply #15 |
31. when will it occur |
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mod mom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-10-08 02:51 PM Response to Reply #15 |
99. Did you watch the Bosnia video? She IS a liar. Why would any of you supporters |
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RaleighNCDUer (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-10-08 08:51 PM Response to Reply #15 |
112. I don't suppose you bothered to actually read the link that you |
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bilgewaterbill (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-09-08 10:40 PM Response to Original message |
18. Mark Penn was hired by Dick Morris fro the '96 race. I don't doubt |
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berni_mccoy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-09-08 11:12 PM Response to Reply #18 |
27. I think it all boils down to greed. Obviously, Clinton wasn't Penn's only client |
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EnemyOfTheocracy (60 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-10-08 10:47 AM Response to Reply #18 |
69. you can't sabotage someone if you don't have a chance. |
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Carolina (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-10-08 05:49 PM Response to Reply #18 |
106. and it speaks volumes about Hillary that SHE HIRED them both! |
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Politicalboi (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-10-08 05:57 PM Response to Reply #18 |
108. Why would you sabotage |
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bigbrother05 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-09-08 10:47 PM Response to Original message |
21. Thanks for posting |
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jettison (284 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-10-08 12:50 PM Response to Reply #21 |
89. Hillary doesn't watch the polls |
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thevoiceofreason (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-09-08 10:50 PM Response to Original message |
23. New motto: "In Berni veritas" |
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berni_mccoy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-09-08 11:00 PM Response to Reply #23 |
25. *blush* Thanks. |
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thevoiceofreason (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-09-08 11:15 PM Response to Reply #25 |
28. You've earned it! |
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ClayZ (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-09-08 11:11 PM Response to Original message |
26. K and R |
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Tellurian (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-10-08 06:04 AM Response to Original message |
32. In spite of ALL in your OP...even IF true.. Obama still can't close on her! |
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berni_mccoy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-10-08 07:55 AM Response to Reply #32 |
34. Whoa, whoa, whoa! Even though what I've said is true, Obama can't Win?!?! |
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Indigo Walrus (11 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-10-08 07:55 AM Response to Reply #32 |
35. "unlike Barack Hussein Obama." |
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sellitman (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-10-08 08:04 AM Response to Reply #32 |
37. You live in Bizzaro World |
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Stuckinthebush (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-10-08 08:33 AM Response to Reply #32 |
40. What are you smoking? |
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ChairmanAgnostic (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-10-08 08:45 AM Response to Reply #32 |
44. NEVER, EVER THREATEN me with her being my president. |
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bjnumb9 (157 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-10-08 10:00 AM Response to Reply #32 |
57. Way to throw the middle name in Tellurian |
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JBoy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-10-08 10:09 AM Response to Reply #32 |
60. Obama can't close on her! |
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EnemyOfTheocracy (60 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-10-08 10:52 AM Response to Reply #60 |
70. how much of a pummeling can he give to her? |
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Catherina (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-10-08 10:19 AM Response to Reply #32 |
66. I feel for you. I really do. You're not going to enjoy the Latin Obama videos one bit |
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GOTV (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-10-08 11:43 AM Response to Reply #32 |
74. Wait a minute! You're saying his middle name is HUSSEIN! Why did this come up before?! |
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DWilliamsamh (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-10-08 11:53 AM Response to Reply #32 |
75. can't "close" on her? |
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guyanakoolaid (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-10-08 12:51 PM Response to Reply #32 |
90. You're right, hillary excludes nobody from her attention... including lobbyists and warmongers |
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jettison (284 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-10-08 12:52 PM Response to Reply #32 |
91. You need help. You're sick. See someone for that. |
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atal (191 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-10-08 08:02 AM Response to Original message |
36. The Mark Penn factor will tip PA to Obama |
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MethuenProgressive (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-10-08 08:08 AM Response to Original message |
38. Obama's Catastrophic Failure of Judgment: Taking his children to hear Hate preached from the pulpit. |
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berni_mccoy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-10-08 08:11 AM Response to Reply #38 |
39. MethuenProgressive's Catastrophic Failure of Judgement: Posting before Thinking |
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MethuenProgressive (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-10-08 08:44 AM Response to Reply #39 |
43. You give BO a pass on *his* whoppers, on *his* associates. |
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berni_mccoy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-10-08 09:21 AM Response to Reply #43 |
51. There you go again... |
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MethuenProgressive (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-10-08 09:33 AM Response to Reply #51 |
52. So, you vote Present instead of being honest? |
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berni_mccoy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-10-08 09:38 AM Response to Reply #52 |
53. I'm sorry you are challenged by the truth. Good luck and peace be with you. |
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wowimthere (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-10-08 10:15 AM Response to Reply #52 |
65. The problem with your logic is that you don't understand how politics works in Illinois... |
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EnemyOfTheocracy (60 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-10-08 03:13 PM Response to Reply #52 |
103. he has never voted present in the united states senate. |
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jonestonesusa (630 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-10-08 12:46 PM Response to Reply #43 |
87. Wright bashing goes on with right wing talking points - among Democrats! |
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Politicalboi (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-10-08 06:08 PM Response to Reply #43 |
110. Not knowing |
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Stuckinthebush (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-10-08 08:34 AM Response to Reply #38 |
41. Oy |
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madrchsod (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-10-08 09:20 AM Response to Reply #38 |
50. you think repeating a lie long enough it will turn into the truth? |
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RaleighNCDUer (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-10-08 09:07 PM Response to Reply #38 |
114. Well, I think taking children to hear ANYTHING preached from a |
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Scurrilous (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-10-08 08:35 AM Response to Original message |
42. K & R |
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liberaldem4ever (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-10-08 08:47 AM Response to Original message |
45. K & R |
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Mimosa (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-10-08 09:02 AM Response to Original message |
46. The OP on this topic: A MUST READ! |
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ShortnFiery (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-10-08 12:18 PM Response to Reply #46 |
79. I agree newbie. Welcome to DU. Yes, Berni_mcCoy's narrative is logical and persuasive. |
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Baby Snooks (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-10-08 09:14 AM Response to Original message |
47. Not a failure of judgement... |
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K Gardner (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-10-08 09:16 AM Response to Original message |
48. Bravo.. spot on ! |
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caseycoon (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-10-08 09:18 AM Response to Original message |
49. K&R Good one berni n/t |
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parkeradison (82 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-10-08 09:43 AM Response to Original message |
54. Regarding "failure of judgment" |
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ginnyinWI (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-10-08 09:55 AM Response to Original message |
56. One of their biggest blunders is thinking Dems are like Repubs. |
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uponit7771 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-10-08 10:13 AM Response to Reply #56 |
63. RIGHT!! Penn was not a centrist or a progressive so taking advise from the guy on how to KEEP the... |
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wowimthere (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-10-08 10:05 AM Response to Original message |
58. K&R a fantastic job telling the story of her implosion. You forgot the WAR Vote though |
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berni_mccoy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-10-08 10:11 AM Response to Reply #58 |
61. I agree wholeheartedly about your point... however, too many have given her a pass already |
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wowimthere (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-10-08 10:24 AM Response to Reply #61 |
67. Berni, you are spot on that people need to wake up... I don't like saying it... |
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nvme (486 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-10-08 10:09 AM Response to Original message |
59. This is sad |
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berni_mccoy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-10-08 10:14 AM Response to Reply #59 |
64. It may be negative to point out her failure, but it is the truth and it is necessary |
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MethuenProgressive (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-10-08 10:32 AM Response to Reply #59 |
68. Excellent post. Thanks. |
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SeaLyons (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-10-08 10:56 AM Response to Reply #59 |
71. Thank You.... |
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berni_mccoy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-10-08 12:36 PM Response to Reply #71 |
82. Thos issues are lost on Hillary as well. She intends nothing of what she speaks. |
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grantcart (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-10-08 01:50 PM Response to Reply #59 |
96. There is no more central issue to the campaign than the President's ability to |
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uponit7771 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-10-08 10:11 AM Response to Original message |
62. What a heartbreaker she's become, I'll vote for her but while holding my nose now. Penn was the last |
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hisownpetard (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-10-08 10:57 AM Response to Original message |
72. Thank you for this thoughtful, informed OP. |
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happygoluckytoyou (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-10-08 11:53 AM Response to Original message |
76. ON A HUNDRED ISSUES----> |
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Ztarbod (82 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-10-08 11:57 AM Response to Original message |
77. No error in judgment, just intentions exposed |
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Sander (113 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-10-08 12:01 PM Response to Original message |
78. Her Behavior Simply Does Not Make Sense |
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RaleighNCDUer (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-10-08 12:31 PM Response to Original message |
81. This is what the 'Third Way' is all about. |
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Vinca (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-10-08 12:38 PM Response to Original message |
83. I think Hillary might have been able to overcome her mismanaged |
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Martin Eden (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-10-08 12:43 PM Response to Original message |
84. Voting for the IWR in 2002 is the one I can't excuse. |
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Carolina (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-10-08 06:00 PM Response to Reply #84 |
109. Thank you! That's when they lost me as well |
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Martin Eden (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-10-08 07:07 PM Response to Reply #109 |
111. I wasn't happy with candidate John Kerry ... |
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RaleighNCDUer (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-10-08 09:20 PM Response to Reply #109 |
115. Which is why, of course, it was scheduled for right then. |
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DCKit (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-10-08 12:57 PM Response to Original message |
92. The $800K Bill took from Colombia - as reported on NBC Nightly News -... |
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syberlion (110 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-10-08 01:11 PM Response to Original message |
93. "Vast RW Conspiracy" |
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McCamy Taylor (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-10-08 01:51 PM Response to Reply #93 |
97. The only people who mock the rw conspiracy are its members |
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McCamy Taylor (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-10-08 01:46 PM Response to Original message |
94. Are they running for first political consultant? Campaigner in chief? Very superficial. |
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berni_mccoy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-10-08 02:19 PM Response to Reply #94 |
98. Wow McCamy? I think you missed the point. |
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grantcart (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-10-08 09:26 PM Response to Reply #98 |
116. McCamy has only one point. The media controls everything. |
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InfiniteNether (155 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-10-08 01:48 PM Response to Original message |
95. This goes to the heart as to why I don't like Clinton. I don't care about |
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bvar22 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-10-08 03:07 PM Response to Original message |
101. Hillary seems comfortable hanging with very creepy people. |
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Carolina (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-10-08 05:41 PM Response to Original message |
104. K&R K&R K&R K&R K&R!!! |
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Major Hogwash (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-10-08 05:53 PM Response to Original message |
107. NAFTA, ducking sniper fire, bookbags being thrown - great strategery, Hillary. |
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