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FrenchieCat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-09-08 02:41 PM
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MSM stress Obama's Money advantage--Forgets to stress where the Money came from!
Edited on Wed Apr-09-08 02:44 PM by FrenchieCat
The media is deliberately attempting to turn Obama's money advantage against him with Penn Voters.

As we know, when the "he is outspending her 4 or 5 to 1!" mantra is repeated over and over again (which it is), a voter's reflex is to think, He's not buying this election!

So the Clinton Camp talking points that Obama is outspending the Clinton campaign is what the MSM push (but somehow, according to Hillary supporters, the MSM is against Clinton....Doh, OK :eyes: )

The story is being pushed with this slant by most, if not all of the talking heads on the TeeVee as well as the press.

So the news is being massaged to insinuate that Obama is "buying the election"....although all that he is doing is getting people familiar with him, because he doesn't have the Name recognition or the party machinery advantage that Hillary does, but he does have millions of ordinary people that have donated to him.

If he wins, Hillary can say it was because of the money, and if he doesn't she can say that he didn't win despite outspending her greatly, and that really says a lot. Win win for Clinton in perception, although she isn't raising money (normally bad).

In other words, all of the sudden, raising a lot of campaign cash from ordinary citizens and actually spending it on advertising and organization makes you an elite buying an election, while having earned 109 Million dollars, having and giving to your own charitable organizationm and having a husband and your campaign manager who supports and profits from trade deals is good.

Up is down, and down is up in this election.......but suppositely, the media loves them some Barack (yeah...sure!) :eyes:

I'm writing to the media to straighten them out....because I'm tired of the skewed coverage to portray Hillary as the victim. Enough, already!


Clinton: Obama outspending us 4-1 in Pennsylvania



Officials from Sen. Hillary Clinton's campaign estimated Thursday that her rival for the Democratic presidential nomination, Sen. Barack Obama, is outspending her by a 4-1 ratio in Pennsylvania, ahead of the April 22 primary there.
The Clinton campaign also said that Pennsylvania, where the New York senator has held onto a comfortable lead in most polls, is a proving ground for Obama, given his massive effort in the Keystone State.
"If they fail to win there, they will have failed," said Howard Wolfson, a spokesman for the Clinton campaign.
http://www.marketwatch.com/news/story/clinton-obama-outspending-us-4-1/story.aspx?guid=%7B1A07F6C6-16D4-4563-AA24-7BC32FD63B66%7D


Obama's unprecedented Pennsylvania ad buy



PHILADELPHIA -- If, as has been widely predicted, Barack Obama loses Pennsylvania, it will not be for lack of effort.

Obama is currently spending $2.2 million per week on television here, over twice what Hillary Clinton is spending and an unprecedented ad buy in Pennsylvania, according to Democratic media consultant Neil Oxman, who is not working for a candiadte.

"Nobody has ever spent 2.2 million in this state: not Rendell, not Specter, not Casey, not Santorum, not Bush, not Kerry," said Oxman, naming the best-funded candidates to run statewide in recent years. "That's unbelievable."
http://www.boston.com/news/politics/politicalintelligence/2008/04/obamas_unpreced.html


Clinton Camp Feels Spent, and Outspent


Obama's immense cash flow -- he has raised more than $240 million to Clinton's $175 million -- allows him to compete as aggressively in the final primary contests as he did in the early days of the race. He is vastly outspending Clinton in Pennsylvania, with $3 million in television and radio ads, including a Spanish-language TV ad airing in the Philadelphia area, compared with an estimated $500,000 that Clinton is spending in the state, which will hold its primary on April 22.

In North Carolina, which will vote on May 6, the Obama campaign has opened 16 offices, including ones in smaller locales such as Hickory, Elizabeth City and Boone. Obama is spending $800,000 on the airwaves, and his team is making a strong push to register voters, with 22 training and local outreach sessions scheduled for yesterday alone.

In Indiana, which will also hold its primary on May 6, Obama has spent $1 million on television ads that have been airing for more than a week, and the campaign opened its 17th office there yesterday. Clinton has 12 offices in the state.
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2008/04/03/AR2008040300407.html?nav=rss_politics



Barack Obama is vastly outspending Hillary Clinton so far on Pennsylvania's airwaves leading up to the crucial April 22 primary.
By some counts, he is buying five times more air time than Clinton. Thus far, the TV ads have mostly been biographical. One features a snippet of his speech at the 2004 Democratic National Convention in Boston, where he burst on to the national stage, plus testimonials from a Republican and Democratic leader in the Illinois legislature about his record there.

The $2 million in ad buys could help partly explain why Obama, who is in the middle of a bus tour across the Keystone State, is closing the gap in the polls to the low double digits. Governor Ed Rendell, Clinton's biggest-name supporter in the state, predicted on CNN this afternoon that she would win -- but probably not by as big a margin.
http://wizbangblue.com/2008/03/31/obama-outspending-clinton-in-pa-5to1.php





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BeyondGeography Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-09-08 02:43 PM
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1. Next thing you know, Hillary will be running an insurgency
with an ex-President and the governor of Pa. by her side.
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FrenchieCat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-09-08 02:44 PM
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2. That's how it will be reported. Remember that she's Rocky.......
Poor thing. :cry:
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AX10 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-09-08 02:46 PM
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3. HIS money could be coming...
from affluent college kids who get their money from their parents.
Charge it on the card.
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Alter Ego Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-09-08 02:53 PM
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8. Or perhaps it could actually be coming from millions of small donors
just like the report says.

Oh, wait, I forgot to be cynical. ABANDON ALL HOPE, YE WHO ENTER HERE! I WILL VOTE FOR SOMEONE I CAN'T STAND!
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FrenchieCat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-09-08 03:06 PM
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11. And her money could be coming from Colombia coffers!
$800,000 paid to her husband for "just Words". She profits, and can lend her campaign money. Cool! :)
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rodeodance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-09-08 03:07 PM
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12. could be--see post 9--his visits to .........
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uponit7771 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-09-08 03:13 PM
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16. ...yeah, cause 1million donors mostly gave 2300 dollars :rolleyes:
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Starbucks Anarchist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-09-08 06:49 PM
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23. And Hillary's could be coming from wealthy donors who threaten Pelosi.
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AtomicKitten Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-09-08 02:47 PM
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4. The Clintons made $109 million over 7 years, an estimated $20 million last year.
Edited on Wed Apr-09-08 03:16 PM by AtomicKitten
It's tough to feel sorry for her because of her inability to raise adequate campaign funds (or to spend it wisely as it turns out) in light of the above.

Obama raised his campaign money from mostly small amount donors.

That's the difference that will resonate.
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panAmerican Donating Member (864 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-09-08 02:49 PM
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5. This lack of context chafes me, too.
Edited on Wed Apr-09-08 02:50 PM by panAmerican
If instead they presented the record ad buys within the context of a record total number of donors and a record number of *NEW* donors, then the undecided might better understand the groundswell of support that is shifing Sen Obama's way.

Another side effect - without the full story, even the upticks in the poll numbers trending for Obama can be dismissed as a fluke, and that perception may stick.
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AnarchoFreeThinker Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-09-08 02:49 PM
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6. And now a brief timeout to consider the marvelous view of this slope
(mathematically speaking). Gotta love the orange trend line.

http://www.pollster.com/08-PA-Dem-Pres-Primary.php
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crankychatter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-09-08 02:51 PM
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7. zoom zoom
two more weeks
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1776Forever Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-09-08 03:06 PM
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10. Thanks for the link!!! Love it!
:applause:
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rodeodance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-09-08 03:05 PM
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9. Obama Visits Billionaires Row- April 6th 2008****HERE--
Forum Name General Discussion: Primaries
Topic subject Obama Visits Billionaires Row- April 6th 2008
Topic URL http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=132x5437731#5437809
5437809, Obama Visits Billionaires Row- April 6th 2008
Posted by 2rth2pwr on Wed Apr-09-08 02:32 PM

So although the San Francisco Bay Area is probably the most pro-Obama section of the entire country, with Obama signs and stickers visible everywhere you turn, when Obama himself actually visited his electoral home base, he ignored the hoi polloi -- all the little people who swoon over him -- and instead, he spent the entire day with the rich. According to local gossip columnist Leah Garchik: http://www.sfisonline.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?file=/c/a/2008/03/26/DDMKVPJT1.DTL

In the Haight, stencils of Barack Obama's smiling face are decorating the sidewalk. But in real life, he is turning up in more lucrative venues: The candidate will be around here on April 6, at a series of events that includes three $2,300-a-head maximum-strength fundraisers: Sara and Sohaib Abbasi are throwing a luncheon in Atherton; he'll zip up to Nancy and Bob Farese's house in Kentfield in mid-afternoon; and proceed from there to Ann and Gordon Getty's in San Francisco.

http://www.bookwormroom.com/2008/04/07/obama-hangs-with-the-rich-folk /
Obama bills himself as a man of the people, who will beat down big business. ... Given his populist stance, Obama's recent trip to the Bay Area, during which he hobnobbed only with the richest and most famous, is amusing, since it either presents a man with no discernible principles or it presents a bunch of rich people who are allowing themselves to be led like lambs to the slaughter.
...
The 46-year-old Democratic senator started the day in Atherton , made his way to Marin and then was due in at the Getty mansion in San Francisco for another event.

Actually, the political pandering from Obama, on the one hand, and the stupid fawning from the rich, on the other hand, wasn't what I found so irritating about the IJ article. Politics in America is, after all, mostly about power, and Obama looks as if he will have the power and these people think that they can buy access. End of story.


Wait just a minute there. If you do the math, on just this one day in the Bay Area, Obama went to four events, three of which had $2,300 minimum donations per ticket, and the other $1,000 minimum per ticket. Each of the events, from the various descriptions, held as many as 400 people (the Getty mansion has a ballroom that reportedly seats at least 300). 400 x $2,300 = $920,000 per event, times three events = $2.76 million, plus the other event, which undoubtedly puts him over $3 million in contributions for this one day alone. And who knows how many other similar days he schedules in other parts of the country.

Michelle Obama (and other Obama campaign spokespeople) aren't telling the truth. It seems that a signficant portion of Obama's monthly campaign contributions are coming from "large donors"' -- i.e. rich people, not just the "$20 to $50" donations they're constantly bragging about.
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FrenchieCat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-09-08 03:08 PM
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13. That's only because the Billionaires have already maxed out for Hillary, and
even they get who the winner will be.

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rodeodance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-09-08 03:33 PM
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20. youhhhhhhh-its BO's turn to get the rich. We knew Hill did but BO tries to say differently
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FrenchieCat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-09-08 03:51 PM
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21. It's about now, not your hypothetical later.........
He turned down money before. Has Hillary? Didn't think so!

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uponit7771 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-09-08 03:11 PM
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15. So? it doesn't negate the fact that he's not taking PAC or Lobbyist money
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rodeodance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-09-08 03:30 PM
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19. just from the lobbyists families --and friends
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1776Forever Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-09-08 03:17 PM
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17. Like Obama says - Main Street needs to be good to Wall Street and vice versa..........
Take a look at these facts:

NOTE: All the numbers on this page are for the 2008 election cycle and based on Federal Election Commission data released electronically on Thursday, March 20, 2008 from the Center for Responsive Politics:

Barack Obama = 8% from Business Donations

http://www.opensecrets.org/pres08/summary.asp?id=N00009638&cycle=2008

Compared to Hillary Clinton = 56% from Business Donations

http://www.opensecrets.org/pres08/summary.asp?id=N00000019&cycle=2008

................

Just a note to say if I could give Obama more then my little donation I sure as heck would! But I am not a business and neither are the people you referenced!

:nopity:
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uponit7771 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-09-08 03:11 PM
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14. RIGHT!! Tim Russert was trying to downplay the fact that BO isn't taking Lobbyist or PAC money by...
...saying he's taking money from their "spouses"

BHO is made it evident that big money isn't needed to win a campaign and that has folk skeered.
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FrenchieCat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-09-08 03:25 PM
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18. They are terrified, which is why they are pushing Obama's money advantage
at a time when Clinton tax returns reveals her to be a multi-millionaire who has gotten rich via her husband's "just words".
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johnnydrama Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-09-08 06:46 PM
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22. here's an interesting point...
Barack Obama has only a 40% lead in donations, 240 to 175 million, yet he's outspending her in PA 4-1.

What does that tell you?

She has mismanaged the money in her campaign, from day one, that's what it tells you.

He's outspending her because he didn't blow all his money like she did.
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FrenchieCat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-09-08 08:53 PM
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26. Right-O!
I sent my letters to the Cable Twins (fuck Fox) CNN & MSNBC.

They have relaxed a bit on this spin.
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samsingh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-09-08 08:49 PM
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24. kick
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jackson_dem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-09-08 08:49 PM
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25. Exelon, Goldman Sachs, etc.
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