I Told You So Is Almost Here

[andyrowe]

Obama has got this baby on lock.

And yes, I will celebrate.
Yes, I will dance in the streets.
And yes, I will even gloat a little (feelings be damned).

Because we. f#cking. earned it.

[AGirl]

1. but you guys have been gloating all along..

[andyrowe]

4. This from the same people that tossed around Obamababies.

And similar "crybaby" terminology. Ha!

[AGirl]

5. i have never personally used those terms..

[HCE SuiGeneris]

51. Knock knock. Pizza's here! Bwahahahahahahahah. It's not Dominos either.

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=user_profiles&u_id=212915

[GOTV]

66. How did AGirl last 1000 posts before tombstoning?

[Political Heretic]

21. ...and delusional cult folowers, kool aid drinkers, stupid children, etc. etc.

Clinton supporters new found martyr complex now that they are clearly losing just doesn't fit all that well over the massive irony.

[MercutioATC]

6. Well, no.

Clinton had "the lock" from the beginning. It wasn't until people started voting (and, actually, until after Super Tuesday) that there was "gloating" involved...and that was mainly a response to the idea that Clinton was the anointed candidate.

[dkf]

8. Pah, I am not gloating. I am looking with great suspicion at Hillary

so that she does not steal this election with her thoughts of purloining pledged delegates.

I do not trust her farther than I can throw her and being a rather petite person, that is not far at all.

[andyrowe]

9. Ha!

Actually I don't think I'd trust her even within the small sphere in which I'd be able to toss her.

[dkf]

10. Yeah, I don't think I could even lift her. lol.

on edit..not that I'm saying she's heavy or anything.

I'm having trouble carrying around my 3 year old nieces!

[JVS]

13. You ain't seen nothing yet!

[Perry Logan]

17. Excellent smackdown, AGirl.

[Tesha]

22. And "smackdowns" are what it's all about here, right? (NT)

[Zhade]

32. I know clintbots are reaching for any "victory" (like the short-lived +1 SD)...

...but that's stretching it.

Her "smackdown" was pretty weak. I didn't even feel a breeze from her hand.

[apocalypsehow]

43. "Look Ma! I won a debate on the internets!!!!!!11!" Childish.

:eyes:

[Zhade]

31. Well, yeah. When Obama started beating the pants off the proven liar...

...and her supporters not only became even bigger assholes, but actively denied her proven lies, they DESERVED it.

It's GOOD to take down self-anointed arrogance as espoused by clinton and her more delusional supporters.

[PoliticalAmazon]

58. Must you spin every fucking thing into a victimy whine?...

...Sweet Baby in the manger!

Obama supporters are happy our cadidate is doing well, and happy yours is not doing so well. This is not "gloating."

My god, between Hillary Clinton and **SOME** of her supporters, I've never seen so many people ready to climb on the cross over every fucking little thing that happens.

Here's what I have to say to all of those cross-climbers:

"Put your feet together, darlin', we only have one nail."

[Lucky 13]

68. No, only since it became apparent that Hillary's campaign is a grandios failure.

[cboy4]

2. Classy.

:thumbsdown:

[bhikkhu]

3. but don't forget, to speak of politics here,

if we get our wish Hillary will remain a strong senator, whose support will likely be needed to get anything done. I highly doubt that Barack has forgotten.

[Bake]

26. I thought the Obots wanted her impeached from the Senate

(Yes, I have actually seen that one in GD: P). Or a primary challenge to HRC by a "real Democrat." (Have seen that one too.).

Bake

[silverweb]

33. Case in point.

You actually saw a post by one poster in GDP suggesting that Hillary be impeached from the Senate -- but you have now expanded that to say "the Obots" want her impeached.

See, this is exactly how the nastiness gets started. Would you care to rephrase?

[Bake]

41. You're right, ONE to impeach her (which is idiotic in the first place)

But there have been countless "can't we find a real Dem to run against her ... I hope she loses her seat in the Senate too ..." posts.

So no, I don't care to rephrase that.

Bake

[silverweb]

45. We're obviously reading very different posts.

n/t

[bhikkhu]

37. None that I have ever talked to or read of

not that it is impossible.

I think that those who would like to see her "political obituary" are primarily repugs, however, and are here as little as the mods can manage.

[leftofcool]

7. Now, if you can just "lock" the GE

[Cali_Democrat]

11. I wonder what will happen to some of the fanatical Hillary supporters here

I'm sure many of them are gonna vote for McCain anyway. They aren't true Democrats, just Hillary fanatics.

[PoliticalAmazon]

59. I'm sick of people accusing others of not being "real" Democrats....

...This is nothing but a spineless ad hominum attack.

The Democratic Party has the Big Tent, remember? We are the tolerant ones, remember? We are the ones who applaud diversity, remember?

So quit telling Hillary supporters that they aren't really Democrats. The definition of "Democrat" has changed a lot even in the last 10 years. I used to be berated for being "too rightwing" of a Democrat, and now I'm usually called part of the "far-left wing" of the Democratic Party.

I have to say, I have never been at a message board where there is so much of this "you're not really a Democrat" bullshit being thrown around. It makes me wonder what is unique about DU that causes this to happen?

[Crunchy Frog]

12. I definitely plan on gloating.

Normally, I wouldn't but the behavior of some of the Hillary supporters on here is such that I don't think I'll be able to help myself. They've really kind of been asking for it.

[JohnnyLib2]

14. Nothing less is expected.

And still, this Clinton supporter will work and vote for the Democratic nominee.

[democrattotheend]

16. I appreciate that

And I can assure you that the Obama volunteers I have met in the real world are not nearly as immature as this OP and some of the other Obama supporters here.

[democrattotheend]

15. This thread is despicable

I can tell you from my experience in 2004 that it is really painful seeing a campaign end when you have so much emotionally invested in it. I really hope that fellow Obama supporters will have the decency to be gracious when the time comes. If you want to gloat, make a donation to DU and go to the Obama supporters group, or gloat offline with other Obama supporters. I hope the mods will lock any obnoxious threads like this if Clinton does eventually drop out. Our goal at that point should be to reach out to Clinton supporters and encourage them to get on board when they are ready, not to rub it in their faces or harass them about whether they are voting for Obama in the general.

[thoughtcrime1984]

18. I agree, the path to mending a broken party is not helped with gloating

I respect anyone who would not only vote for the candidate that is not "theirs", but also work for them. Good on you. Let's not gloat, Obama supporters, just celebrate with respect, when and if the time is right. Let's reflect our candidate as best as we can, and try to save our Party, which is far superior to the other Party.

[Zhade]

34. If you have that much invested in the campaign of a proven liar, that's YOUR fucking problem.

NT!

[billyoc]

19. My 7 Day Hate will be legendary. nt

[Bongo Prophet]

20. If you must gloat, do so in November. Only then, will it be earned.

You may celebrate, and of course, "you can dance if you want to" -- but the VERY next step is to be gracious to our fellow democrats and refrain from poking at people in pain. I know what it is like to lose hard battles. If you are a dem, you do too.

So have some empathy, if you can manage that.
If not, log off and go dance your ass off in a club somewhere!
That way, you will not harm anyone.
Drive safely!

[Perry Logan]

23. A simple apology would suffice.

[Zhade]

36. An apology for WHAT? Winning honestly?

Don't hold your breath.

[Bake]

42. Then try winning in November without us.

Or, ratchet down the hate a few notches before then.

Bake

[PoliticalAmazon]

60. Now we're holding our Democratic Party votes hostage! ....

....It's one thing to not want to vote for someone you think would make a lousy president, but to hold your vote hostage with the terms for its release being that you have to be treated a certain way?

I agree that Obama supporters who are thinking about gloating if Obama wins are not thinking about long-term strategy and winning in November, and if I was a Hillary supporter, I'd be insulted, too.

But to hold your vote hostage?

What is going on here?

[Bake]

64. I'm not holding anything "hostage."

The quality (or lack thereof) of a candidate's supporters says a lot about the candidate and his message. I have thought from the beginning that Obama is an arrogant ass, and his quite a few of his supporters bear that out in the way they treat those who disagree. It's not just here on DU, either; it's all over the blogs (DailyKos, e.g.) and the media. I don't see many of his supporters reaching out and asking for MY vote, and likewise I don't see Obama doing it either. We're just expected to fall in line.

Bottom line: It's my vote. And so far, I haven't made up my mind what I'll do if Obama is the nominee. But his supporters sure as hell aren't helping, and perhaps if they actually gave a damn about the party or unity (to say nothing of actually WINNING in the fall) they'd be a bit less condescending to other Democrats.

Bake

[usrbs]

65. You'll get my vote if he's the candidate but precious else

Look at some of the posts in this thread. Why would I work alongside the people who are insulting me now and will be gloating then? Let Obama supporters spend their money, I'm not going to. There are enough local actions I can take that hopefully won't bring me face to face with any obnoxious BO supporters. And of course not all of them are like that, but enough are.

[struck_dumb]

24. why wait?

Why not start now when half the Democratic Party still do not want Barry for Prez.

[azmouse]

25. Gobama!

[Bake]

27. And you may hear it again in November, when Obama loses the GE

Part of it will be because of jerks like you who can't stop gloating, insulting those who don't blindly follow your candidate, being condescending, etc. We may stay home. I hope your man draws those crossovers from the Pukes.

Some of us are pretty fucking sick of it.

Bake

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[DearAbby]

28. Hillary had a lock on this

at the begining, but was pinned down by heavy sniper fire, and Barack stole the lead!

[Zhade]

29. I will probably gloat LESS than I expected to before.

That's because the end isn't really in doubt now.

I just hope some clinton supporters will wake up and realize they supported a proven liar and were wrong to do so.

[Bake]

44. Do you honestly think Obama hasn't lied?

You think he wasn't well aware of Rev. Wright's controversial statements when he stood up and said "I never heard those ..."??? All politicians lie. Obama is a politician, not the Messiah. You think he didn't stretch it just a bit about his slumlord pal? Here, I've got some oceanfront property in Arizona to sell you.

Frankly, unless you yourself have never told a lie, why don't you zip it with the "proven liar" shit. That's getting really damn old.

Bake

[rndmprsn]

30. i'll be right out there dancing with you, K+R

[BzaDem]

35. The real I told you so will be on November 4th.

Some (but not enough) of us are able to see the writing on the wall. When Obama loses PA at 7pm and you know you can go to sleep for the night, many others will be posting on DU in dismay. How did it happen. They'll be blaming everyone from Hillary Clinton to the media.

But the people on this board who knew how to add prior to November won't be gloating. They'll be dissapointed, in that they couldn't convince even the most active Democratic supporters that their candidate wasn't electable.

[GoldieAZ49]

50. no one to blame but themselves

not Hillary

not the repubs

not the voting machines

themselves for nominating the feel good blank slate community organizer

hopefully the division of the party will be able to heal, or maybe it should be revamped completely

[leftynyc]

39. I would expect no less

from some of Sen Obama supporters. Some has shown no class all along. Their candidate would be horrified but gloat away!!!!! You have the mistaken impression anybody here cares.

[girl gone mad]

40. No. Obama earned it.

Not you or any of the other irritating Obama supporters on this message board who spout insults, nonsense and trash talk all day long.

I voted for Obama with reservations, and many of those reservations are right here on DU.

[Cha]

46. I see your point about why

"we earned it"..but I just want her to go away..I don't care if she's mad or not.

[Bensthename]

47. yup you picked the winning horse. Congrads.

[2rth2pwr]

48. Flamebait.

[apocalypsehow]

49. I'm going to say this here for that tiny band of Obama "supporters" who spend their time policing my

posts for "meanness" and being "not helpful":

When Obama wins the nomination and the official "one week" window to continue talking about the primaries commences, I am going to trumpet his victory in every thread I wander into. All the Obama supporters have earned it, what with the steady stream of abusive shit we've had to endure. If you don't like it, you got yourselves three options.

1. Put me on *ignore*.

2. Fuck off.

3. Some combination of the two.

That is all.

[GoldieAZ49]

52. I will choose to fuck off, thank you very much

until November 4th, after the GE I will check in and see how happy ya'll are with President McCain

:hi:

[HCE SuiGeneris]

54. Because you voted for him? Good for you!

:puke:

[apocalypsehow]

55. I'm voting for whoever the Democratic nominee is - and I believe that nominee will beat McCain.

I would a million times rather have a President Hillary Clinton than a President McCain.

:hi:

[JBoy]

63. Thanks for your support.

[apocalypsehow]

53. *Kickety-kick*

For my fan club.

[PoliticalAmazon]

56. JMO--I think it is premature to launch into a Gloat-O-Rama. It's also impolite....

...YES, I think she should withdraw from the primary, and YES I think she is Bush Jr's clone, and YES some of her supporters are whining little asshats...

...But, still it's just not polite to gloat until it's final. Also, some of HRC's supporters aren't whinig little asshats, and I think it would hurt their feelings. They might feel a premature Gloat-O-Rama, before Hillary had left the race, was disrespectful to her supporters.

Just my opinion...your mileage may vary.

[PoliticalAmazon]

57. Actually, I don't think gloating is good after (if) Hillary leaves the Primary...

...It's going to be hard for Hillary's supporters, and I don't want to make it harder by rubbing salt into the wound.

I can't help but think how disappointed I would be if Obama lost the primary...

[rug]

61. You? What did you do besides post 812 times in GDP?

[knixphan]

62. I haven't gloated

But I will dance for a second.

Always good to dance before the next war.

I love my Hillary-lovin' bros and sistas...

all this water will go under the bridge when we feel the full-frontal stupidity of the republican attack.

[psychopomp]

67. Newsflash

You are gloating already. And it is not very becoming.

[Lucky 13]

69. I go back and forth between gloating and feeling desperately sorry for Hillary.

But every time I start to think we're being too rough on Hill she does something EVEN WORSE to make me not really care.