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tokenlib Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-04-08 07:19 PM
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North Dakota is crazy tonight!! The Grand Forks showdown!!
Edited on Fri Apr-04-08 07:37 PM by tokenlib
We need these back-to-back appearances more often... Barack Obama was at his best tonight. He sounded confident and had a presidential aura tonight. His speech appeared to have evolved for the occasion.

Maybe it helps to appear before a crowd 15,000 strong that has recently had their state's importance dissed by the Clinton machine.

Anyhow, Hillary is on at 8:45 PM ET and I almost feel her pain... I'm just going to have to watch!!
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HiFructosePronSyrup Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-04-08 07:19 PM
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1. And they say Obama disenfranchises voters.
:rofl:
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K Gardner Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-04-08 07:22 PM
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2. I heard Schultz talking about this.. whats going on in ND? I haven't been keeping up..
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tokenlib Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-04-08 07:23 PM
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3. Both Obama and Clinton speak to the state convention
Barack was impressive and Hillary is up at 8:45 ET
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jenmito Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-04-08 07:24 PM
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4. Darn-where did you see this?
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tokenlib Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-04-08 07:25 PM
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7. CNN had the stream-the local station stream screwed up
Edited on Fri Apr-04-08 07:29 PM by tokenlib
I assume they'll have it for Hillary

So either CNN.com or http://www.kxmb.com
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jenmito Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-04-08 07:29 PM
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10. Ok, thanks. Hopefully it will be on youtube later.
:hi:
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hogwyld Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-04-08 07:25 PM
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5. How did Hillary diss' ND?
Is she trying to lose the nomination?
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HiFructosePronSyrup Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-04-08 07:26 PM
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8. She said North Dakota voters don't count.
"Is she trying to lose the nomination?"

No, she's trying to win. She just sucks at it.
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tokenlib Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-04-08 07:26 PM
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9. Just the usual, about some states being too red to matter n/t
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democrattotheend Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-04-08 07:25 PM
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6. She's going AFTER Barack?
Why the hell did she agree to that? Didn't McCain learn the hard way a couple months ago that it's a bad idea to follow Barack Obama?
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FrenchieCat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-04-08 07:44 PM
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14. 3 hours after.........
hoping everyone forgot the excitement! heehee!
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C_U_L8R Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-04-08 07:32 PM
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11. Oh I can feel the flop sweat already from here
How many ways can Hillary parse her "North Dakota votes don't matter" stance ???
This is gonna be some fine triangulatin' tappytoein'. Har har har.
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Erin Elizabeth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-04-08 09:35 PM
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74. Flop sweat.
I just giggled so hard I snotted myself. I had totally forgotten about that phrase and it fits perfectly. Thanks for that big giggle.
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Zachstar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-04-08 07:43 PM
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12. Woah the WDAY news deal whatever. They cant seem to coordinate coverage
The camera is going all over the place and nobody seems to be manning the switcher.
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Zachstar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-04-08 07:44 PM
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13. Finally the camera is atleast pointed at the stage.
Now to see how Clinton tries to talk her way out of this mess.
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Zachstar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-04-08 07:46 PM
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15. Looks like Clinton is running late.
8:15 before she can get there.

She is actually still in the air. You would think that a candidate would want time to prepare.
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tokenlib Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-04-08 07:47 PM
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16. Damn she's delayed to 9:15PM ET
Edited on Fri Apr-04-08 07:47 PM by tokenlib
She just flew in?? So that means she missed Barack's speech. Good for her..it might lessen the pain.
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Zachstar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-04-08 07:49 PM
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17. Her loss
No time to even get briefed.

Look at this guy filling in time for Clinton.
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slinkerwink Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-04-08 07:55 PM
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18. she's delayed?
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americanstranger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-04-08 09:41 PM
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81. Sniper fire. n/t
- as
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Zachstar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-04-08 07:57 PM
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19. He is actually pretty good.
Puts the smackdown on republican talking points.
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acrosstheuniverse Donating Member (224 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-04-08 08:08 PM
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20. is there a link to any of this?
?
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Zachstar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-04-08 08:10 PM
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21. this
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acrosstheuniverse Donating Member (224 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-04-08 08:12 PM
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22. not working
:-(
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tokenlib Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-04-08 08:13 PM
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24. Here's another...
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Doctor_J Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-04-08 08:13 PM
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23. 15,000?
:thumbsup::thumbsup::thumbsup::thumbsup:
:thumbsup::thumbsup::thumbsup::thumbsup:
:thumbsup::thumbsup::thumbsup::thumbsup:
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tokenlib Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-04-08 08:14 PM
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25. Who knows how many stayed for Hillary...
I hope they pan the crowd so we can see... this music is crazy during the wait
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Zachstar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-04-08 08:20 PM
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27. Look at the supporters cheering.
Edited on Fri Apr-04-08 08:20 PM by Zachstar
And the background mostly silent. LOL
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Zachstar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-04-08 08:22 PM
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29. Ok with this my view is Clinton is gonna get some boos as she approaches the stage and as she leaves
She deserves it.
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Zachstar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-04-08 08:25 PM
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31. LoL some of them tried to restart the cheer and it failed. 8:25 and still no Clinton.
Late to her own loss. LoL
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Zachstar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-04-08 08:20 PM
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28. Looks like Clinton is running late again.
8:20 and still no showing.
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blonndee Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-04-08 08:19 PM
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26. Any link to Clinton appearance is appreciated
That Obama crowd was amazing!
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tokenlib Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-04-08 08:28 PM
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33. This is a bad night getting worse for Hillary...
Watching these people try to get enthusiastic is sad...
http://www.kxmb.com/
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Zachstar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-04-08 08:30 PM
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36. And the music is just putting people to sleep.
What a MESS!
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kid a Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-04-08 08:23 PM
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30. ANyone have ND pics??
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quantass Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-04-08 08:27 PM
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32. Yea Obama was pretty good -- speech was virtually new for the occasion
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Zachstar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-04-08 08:29 PM
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34. 8:30 Clinton is still not there and her supporters are trying to keep the crowd halfway interested.
LOL what a MESS
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MadBadger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-04-08 08:30 PM
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35. Anytime now Hillary...
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Zachstar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-04-08 08:32 PM
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37. You think perhaps she is afraid of the responce she is going to get?
Its obvious the crowd isnt joining in the Clinton supporter cheers.

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Zachstar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-04-08 08:33 PM
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38. LoL I think I see some people in the crowd raising Obama signs to their cheers!
LOL!!

This is becoming a joke!
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Zachstar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-04-08 08:35 PM
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39. Finally, I got tired of the constant fake cheers.
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Zachstar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-04-08 08:39 PM
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40. WTF the feed is gone? I guess the cameraman fell asleep!
Seriously tho is there any alternative links?
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tokenlib Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-04-08 08:40 PM
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41. CNN.com is up
Edited on Fri Apr-04-08 08:43 PM by tokenlib
This is facinating... PLEASE show the crowd!!!
http://www.cnn.com/video/live/live.html?stream=stream2
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Zachstar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-04-08 08:41 PM
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42. Link?
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Drunken Irishman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-04-08 08:42 PM
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43. Hillary find her way there yet?
I'm watching the Jazz beat up on the Spurs (right now, anyway). :D
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tokenlib Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-04-08 08:43 PM
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44. She just got a hockey stick n/t
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acrosstheuniverse Donating Member (224 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-04-08 08:45 PM
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45. When she does get there...
Edited on Fri Apr-04-08 08:45 PM by acrosstheuniverse
I hope she is booed so much the clip gets thousands of views of youtube and the MSM starts playing it over and over as a huge embarrassment to her. Because after all North Dakota doesn't count in her heroic ROCKY fight to save Democracy! :hurts:
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Barack_America Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-04-08 08:55 PM
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52. Sniper fire, etc.
;)
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Zachstar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-04-08 08:45 PM
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46. Exciting to be a ND democrat clinton?
I thought they diddnt count?
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malik flavors Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-04-08 08:47 PM
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47. Is there a video of Obama's speech?
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Zachstar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-04-08 08:48 PM
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48. Delighted to be there clinton?
I thought they were a pointless red state?
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Zachstar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-04-08 08:49 PM
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49. Talking about the floods, FEMA and the gulf.
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tokenlib Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-04-08 08:50 PM
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50. Note the CNN caption "Clinton Remarks"
It said "Barack Obama Rally" earlier. Hmmm??? Actually she does have a good sized audience, no booing, everyone is quite respectful.
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Zachstar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-04-08 08:51 PM
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51. Mentioned the war SHE VOTED FOR when talking about Bush!!
LOL! Diddnt spend too much on that did you Clinton!
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Zachstar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-04-08 08:55 PM
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53. Joking about Bills wealth.
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MadBadger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-04-08 08:58 PM
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54. A LOT of people not cheering in that crowd.
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Zachstar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-04-08 08:59 PM
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55. That one person tho is really cheering eh?
Every time Clinton takes half a break hes shouting.
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Zachstar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-04-08 09:01 PM
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56. LOL Clinton your war talk means little when your vote SENT them to war!!
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Zachstar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-04-08 09:02 PM
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57. WTF? did she just read obama's speech and is spitting it back out? with edits?
Edited on Fri Apr-04-08 09:03 PM by Zachstar
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Zachstar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-04-08 09:05 PM
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58. She sure seems wanting to aid ND for a pointless red state?
You realize how silly you sound now Clinton?
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quantass Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-04-08 09:07 PM
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59. The contrasting difference between Obama and Clinton is striking -- She bores me and the audience
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Zachstar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-04-08 09:11 PM
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61. Yes I have almost switched it off twice already.
Yet I have not heard a Clinton speech for this month so I need to give her the hour.

It is so far a waste of time tho.
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Zachstar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-04-08 09:10 PM
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60. You don't hold hands with the saudis clinton?
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quantass Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-04-08 09:13 PM
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62. Are the only Youngins' in the audience the ones behind her? I count only 5
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Zachstar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-04-08 09:15 PM
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64. I noticed that. I guess most the crowd before left.
This looks less like a convention and more like just a speech to the supporters.

Oh well
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quantass Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-04-08 09:14 PM
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63. She doesn't sound Presidential -- not inspirational at all...
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Zachstar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-04-08 09:27 PM
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65. She toned it up a little bit but overall it is just a copy of Obama's points
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Zachstar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-04-08 09:28 PM
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66. WTF the 3AM crap again?
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tokenlib Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-04-08 09:30 PM
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67. Hillary is "I" and Barack is so much more "we"...
Barack Obama will be our next president.

Oh my God, she said "fifty state campaign"-- she has lost it--how stupid does she believe everyone is???
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Zachstar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-04-08 09:32 PM
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69. She obviously thinks we do not have better things to do. *YAWN*
She is putting me to sleep.

This is nothing like Obama's speech except in basic content.
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SeattleGirl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-04-08 09:34 PM
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70. When I watched Obama's speech earlier, that's EXACTLY what I
was thinking!

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quantass Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-04-08 09:35 PM
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72. Sooooo TRUE...
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Zachstar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-04-08 09:31 PM
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68. More of her staying in crap. And calling for people to stand with her tommorow.
Nice Try Clinton. But you just said the state was but a red state.
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Zachstar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-04-08 09:34 PM
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71. Clinton to clean up after bush?
Lets see under Clinton 1.0

Loss of Congress

NAFTA
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Zachstar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-04-08 09:35 PM
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73. FINALLY it is OVER!! I can wake up now!!
Oh yes she has to exit with the damn Rocky music.

What a mess.
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quantass Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-04-08 09:36 PM
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75. I guess i will join you Zachstar in forcing myself to watch her since i never do
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quantass Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-04-08 09:37 PM
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77. Wooohoo the best part -- its over -- WTF, Rocky tune? LOL! Ironic since Rocky Lost in the end
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Zachstar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-04-08 09:41 PM
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80. Yes the Rocky stuff is not working for her.
And she seems to think for some reason she can do things like heathcare stuff as president.

Newsflash Clinton, You can only sign the bill. Congress are the ones who drafts it.

And if she cares so much about Healthcare and whatnot, then why not return to congress so that she can draft the bill with the others and send bills to Obama?
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Zachstar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-04-08 09:38 PM
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78. Well I always try to watch a speech or 2 from her every month just to keep up with her latest points
Compared to Clinton before Super Tuesday this Clinton is boring and uninspiring.

Oh well hopefully Obama will get more delegates in PA and this will end.
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Zachstar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-04-08 09:36 PM
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76. Ok overall a poor speech.
Nothing to really hook onto and if you did not leave it feeling bad (The death story) then you left it asleep.

She stands no chance in the GE.
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quantass Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-04-08 09:49 PM
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84. That's what i felt too
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Erin Elizabeth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-04-08 09:40 PM
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79. Thank you, it was funny just to read this thread.
I didn't watch her speech.
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Zachstar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-04-08 09:41 PM
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82. You diddn't miss much.
Compared to pre-super tuesday this clinton has little to offer.
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Erin Elizabeth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-04-08 09:42 PM
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83. The new season of
Battlestar Galactica started tonight and my husband is an uber-geek, so.....yeah. LOL.
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tokenlib Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-04-08 10:06 PM
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85. Barack Obama looked like a President tonight...
Edited on Fri Apr-04-08 10:07 PM by tokenlib
I saw it, I felt it, and I hope the thousands in his audience saw it too. He had that "gravitas", that dignity, that presence of a leader. I've watched lots of his speeches--but tonight was special--the speech has evolved--and so has he. And it is beyond my ability to explain it adequately. This really is our time, his time--and tonight I believe it is really going to happen.

Barack is going to be our nominee--he really, really is.
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FrenchieCat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-04-08 10:12 PM
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86. Let me know when the Barack part is on Youtube.
I missed Hillary on purpose. I already knew what she was going to say, and how she was going to say it. :boring:
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