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BzaDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-04-08 04:00 PM
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While ordinary Americans struggle to make ends meet, the Obamas are millionaires.
in respones to the same post about Hillary.

How can Obama connect with the working class who struggle to make ends meet, when he makes over a cool million each year?

Just pointing out how rediculous it is to fault Hillary (or Obama) for how much money they have.
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LSK Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-04-08 04:01 PM
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1. actually he was in some debt until his latest book deal
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MonkeyFunk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-04-08 04:05 PM
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10. And the Clintons were in deeper debt
when they left the White House.
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Citizen Kang Donating Member (424 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-04-08 06:03 PM
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38. Thats not the issue here.
The issue is how they went from a next worth of over 6 million to 100 million in such a short amount of time. That doesn't raise any eyebrows or suspicions, hillbots?

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DemVet Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-04-08 05:59 PM
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36. And you want him handling the economy when he can't handle his own wallet?
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stray cat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-04-08 04:01 PM
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2. largely from book royalties or other?
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easy_b94 Donating Member (548 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-04-08 04:02 PM
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3. yeah school loans
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woolldog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-04-08 04:02 PM
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4. Is he trading access for $$, like the Clintons?
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northzax Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-04-08 04:18 PM
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15. nah, he just
happened to get a great deal on a house from a guy.

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woolldog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-04-08 04:29 PM
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22. that's funny
b/c the sellers of that house have been very clear that the Obamas gave the highest offer.
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northzax Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-04-08 05:23 PM
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35. Not high enough
Edited on Fri Apr-04-08 05:31 PM by northzax
since it was a package deal. Until someone came along to buy the other lot.

And, of course, you could wonder why the Senator himself called it a 'bone-headed mistake' but what would he know? Makes one wonder if he'd say the same thing about giving his wife's employer a million dollar earmark?
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Forkboy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-04-08 04:02 PM
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5. This is why the other post was so silly.
If only the poor can care about the poor then us poor are even more fucked. I don't see many saying Edwards or Kennedy don't care about the poor, and last I checked they were doing ok for themselves.
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stray cat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-04-08 04:05 PM
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11. agreed as long as they are not making money through their "public service"
by making shady deals instead of serving the public. And Edwards did get nailed even though he did come from the "mill background" for his money, house and haircut.
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VolcanoJen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-04-08 04:03 PM
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6. Uhh, I'd say the Obama's income is a helluva lot closer to the average income....
... than the Clintons. Especially considering how much in student debt they were, just a few years ago.
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MNDemNY Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-04-08 04:04 PM
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8. Check back in 10 years or so.
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babylonsister Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-04-08 04:03 PM
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7. There is no comparison between the totals in their tax returns; you can
type all day and still not make it so. Good effort. :thumbsup:
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BzaDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-04-08 04:06 PM
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13. You're right -- Obama really is making a working class income.
LOL. Seriously. When both candidates are FAR out of the middle class (and Edwards making even more money than both of them), it is petty and rediculous to moan about how much more out of the middle class Hillary is than Obama.
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babylonsister Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-04-08 04:22 PM
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16. Yep, there is no comparison between 3M and 110M.
And no one ever claimed they were making a 'working class income'.
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Moochy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-04-08 04:30 PM
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24. Hillary is 33
no not 44, but 33 ...times as rich as Obama.
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babylonsister Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-04-08 04:48 PM
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27. Ha! I thought that was her new age!
:hide:
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Moochy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-04-08 04:49 PM
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28. They did polling on hillary is 44
and came up with this one!
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FrenchieCat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-04-08 04:04 PM
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9. Have you actually looked at Obama's tax returns?
He is a millionaire, without the "S".

There is no comparison. His net worth is all in his house value...and we know how those values are falling.

See for short:
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BzaDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-04-08 04:07 PM
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14. I was talking about Obama's income, not assets. Everyone is talking about Hillary's income.
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olkaz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-04-08 04:25 PM
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18. Then you've missed the boat completely. Congratulations.
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Zachstar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-04-08 04:06 PM
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12. Last time I checked Obama has not broken the 100 million mark in 7 years.
So your topic has no meaning.
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northzax Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-04-08 04:23 PM
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17. if that's important to you
then the worst thing you can do is elect him President. because the day he leaves office, he knows, if he is good to companies, that he will make more money than you have ever seen. he can be good to companies and makes $100million of his own, ensure his daughters never want for anything, or hurt those companies and go back to community organizing for $25k.

wouldn't you want someone so rich that they don't need to worry about working after leaving office? instead of someone worried about paying the mortgage on their house?
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Zachstar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-04-08 04:30 PM
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25. What?
And your point is flawed BTW. The whole point of his campaign is for people to be involved in this process. So its going to be hard to get into a 2nd term if he starts pulling crap like NAFTA.

Therefore hes not going to walk away with mega deals.

WTF is with you people? Why do I waste my time trying to understand Clinton supporters!?
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northzax Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-04-08 05:18 PM
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34. seriously, there is something to be said
for politicians who aren't in need of cash on leaving office. But if you really think that the first black president of the us, an incredible speaker, won't be making a million bucks a speech the year he leaves office, you are a fool. And if you don't think that's in the back of his mind, well, you have a great opinion of humankind. I don't think bill and Hillary went to Washington to get rich, but the siren song of generational money is very strong.

As for his ethics in avoiding it, even the appearance of it, ask yourself why he would earmark a million plus for his wife's employer the year after they gave her a 30% raise? What is that but politics as usual? An earmark for the company your wife works for? Imagine what you'd be saying if the Clintons did that? He's already proven that a personal financial stake doesn't seem to stop him from spending your tax dollars. Why would you expect him to act differently as President when a lot more than a hundred grand is at stake?
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jasmine621 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-04-08 04:27 PM
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19. Neither has Hillary. It's Bills income you are really talking about. nt
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olkaz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-04-08 04:28 PM
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21. And how does this change anything?
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HCE SuiGeneris Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-04-08 04:27 PM
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20. What is rediculous?
Edited on Fri Apr-04-08 04:28 PM by BushDespiser12
I see it all the time here... Is there some special coding that I don't know about?
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cd3dem Donating Member (927 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-04-08 04:29 PM
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23. and the Clintons give more than double the percentage to charity that the Obamas do
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NYCGirl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-04-08 04:31 PM
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26. Well, they've already paid their college loans and don't have little children.
So they can afford much more.
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stray cat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-04-08 04:55 PM
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30. Isn't the charity the Clinton library?
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ampad Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-04-08 04:56 PM
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32. Did the Obamas make as much money as the Clintons?
Don't think so and while your talking about all the charity they donated to tell the Clintons to pay their bills.
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cd3dem Donating Member (927 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-06-08 09:28 AM
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40. Repeat, Clintons gave a substantially higher "percentage" of their income to charity than the Obamas
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Terran Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-04-08 04:53 PM
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29. All politicians at that level are rich
It's pretty pointless to criticize them for that. Being "in touch" with ordinary people depends on how much heart you have, not how much money.
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bigwillq Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-04-08 04:56 PM
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31. Most, if not all, politicians have money
Democrats and Republicans.

As usual in GDP, this money thing is being overblown.

Both Obama and Clinton can still connect with the middle class despite what they make.

John Kerry had more money then both Obama and Clinton.

I'm sure Barbara Boxer, Russ Feingold, Joe Biden, Chris Dodd make a pretty penny too.
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TomBall Democrat Donating Member (332 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-04-08 04:59 PM
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33. Sticks and stones
bore me.

ZZZZZZZZZZZ

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MethuenProgressive Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-04-08 06:02 PM
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37. His wife has had a very rewarding career too.
They're an American Success story.
Peace!
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sudopod Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-04-08 06:15 PM
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39. PROTIP
Write a book.


Seriously, though, he only got his college loans paid off a few years ago. :p
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zulchzulu Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-06-08 09:31 AM
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41. We can't have successful people in America, damn it!
Obama should have written his books for free! Free! Free!

I mean he's a black guy, ferchrissakes....


:sarcasm:


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