Who's healthcare plan is better...or is single payer the way to go?

[rndmprsn]

just wanted to see how DU feels about the dems competing health care plans...or if single payer would be better.

[Jed Dilligan]

1. .

:puke: to whoever thinks Clinton's plan is better than single payer.

I would say the same if anyone had voted for Obama's plan yet.

[SeaLyons]

2. Single Pay would be the best..

but since we will not have it as an option, I vote for Hillary's plan, which is by far better than Obama's.

[silverweb]

3. Single payer is best.

But as Obama said, getting there immediately is not going to be possible, so we will have to move towards it in increments.

In the meantime, I think his plan is the best first step towards that goal.

[OHdem10]

4. I voted for Clinton Plan. Single Payers is the best but it would

be impossible at this time. Clinton's plan sets things up
so that if sometime in the future we could go to Single Payer
it would be very easy.

[RaleighNCDUer]

5. No, Clinton's plan makes it impossible to move to single-payer

for at least a generation.

It will lock in a bureaucracy to manage the myriad private insurance companies' plans and make them each, by their hundreds, work with the government oversight - and when a massive bureaucracy is created it will sustain itself long past its natural lifetime. It will fight to stay in place, long after its inadequacies are apparent, and all the while the insurance company CEOs will continue to rape the public as they pull down their multi-million dollar salaries. After ten years or so, people will start making noises about "fixing" her healthcare system, but by then the republicans will regain control and nothing will happen for at least another 8 years, and the candidates in 2024 will be running on promises to fix healthcare once again and IF a democrat wins then we MIGHT see single payer by 2026.

Why wait?

[joshcryer]

6. That's bullshit. Obama's plan would do that.

Hillary's plan fucks over insurance companies and keeps them from being able to compete with the national insurer. Thus allowing a move to single payer in a decade, potentially even shorter, once the benefits are realized.

Obama's plan doesn't place limits, doesn't mandate, and doesn't subsidize.

It is no where fucking *near* single payer. It's horrible.

Hillary's plan is as close as politically possible. And it paves the way quite readily for a single payer system.

[OHdem10]

9. Why wait??? Because the country will not accept Single Payer

They think it is socialism.

Do Hilary Plan, let them get used to the idea of everyone being covered.
Get used to to Congressional Plans, then when they see there are
no socialists hiding under the bed, they will be more open. Further
more, the country will be in such sad straits they will be happy to
have Single Payer.

[RaleighNCDUer]

10. Except everyone WON'T be covered, any more than everyone

is covered by auto insurance today, requirements notwithstanding.

Twenty more years is too long to wait.

We don't know if the country won't accept single-payer because the country has never been offered single-payer. And we are already in those sad straits.

There's no excuse for not doing it NOW.

[featherman]

7. I have no doubt any Democrat with a big enough majority will move

to single payer when it is politically feasible and socially acceptable. This is a long struggle toward a common goal

[joshcryer]

8. Which is why Obama is a political coward picking the least progressive plan...

...when we have such a large majority.

The dems have a chance to have a spine this time around, unlike when they didn't vote for Hillary's original plan.