Should HRC apologize for sniper fire joke on the eve of MLK's murder at the hands of a sniper?

[Unsane]

What a night to make such a disgraceful joke. Holy heavenly shit.

[shadowknows69]

1. You're a day early, but yes.

[MonkeyFunk]

2. No

but I think Obama supporters should apologize for wasting electrons on inane bullshit like this.

[tekisui]

10. What does she gain by reminding us of a lie she was caught in

and making light of getting caught in a lie? Irregardless of the subject.

[cliffordu]

13. Here's someone who cannot argue that slur:

http://www.nydailynews.com/news/politics/2008/03/30/2008-03-30_hillary_clintons_lie_hits_real_sniper_vi.html

[Unsane]

31. great link

[Ddan]

35. This is not insane bullshit

You don't lie about almost getting killed to get votes. It's wrong. Not only is it wrong off of pure principal but to do it on the eve of MLK's murder is worse.

[wileedog]

54. I'm an Obama supporter and I agree

This is way beyond asinine.

[thewiseguy]

3. The sniper story was/is her campaign killer

She made it worse tonight.

[tekisui]

6. That's the point. many sniper jokes have been made.

She should have left it where it was. She reminded us all that she lied, and has no remorse in getting caught. The subject matter is immaterial at this point.

[thewiseguy]

17. She was probably forced into making light of her mistake

The sniper story will not go away with or without her talking about it. Thats because the story is so simple and her lies there are so obvious. This is just a classic campaign killer and the poll numbers do reflect that.

[Obamanaut]

43. Not a mistake, or a misspeak, or misremember - it was a lie. nt

[cliffordu]

18. Yep, she's done now....

[Bright Eyes]

4. What exactly did she say?

I haven't been on DU for a couple of days....

[Unsane]

8. Joked on Leno about "avoiding sniper fire" in order to get to the studio.

4,000 dead in Iraq

Endless War

Anniversary of MLK's killing

This woman is making jokes about her lies. Unreal.

[Bright Eyes]

14. Did she think she was being cute?

I can laugh at almost anything, but she didn't just step over the line; she spit on it.

[DJ13]

5. She didnt?!

What a boneheaded time to try to make light of a previous lie.

I've never seen a more tonedeaf campaign than hers.

[bigbrother05]

11. Bush Jr

[AZBlue]

7. Absolutely. It shows her complete disregard for an amazing individual.

She's so wrapped up in herself, she can't see or think of anything or anyone else. That's not what we want for a President - we already put up with that for 8 years, we won't do it anymore.

[Unsane]

66. agreed

[jillan]

9. A person can't laugh at themselves anymore?

That's pretty sad.

[MADem]

22. No, because the supporters of the black candidate don't know their Black History.

They get the fucking date wrong AND get all outraged about it, nonetheless.

Apparently, a lot of children are being left behind, and a lot of them are posting here.

[AX10]

26. kick

[madrchsod]

37. interesting two sentences.....

"supporters of the black candidate don't know their Black History".

"a lot of children are being left behind, and a lot of them are posting here."

[anigbrowl]

30. 'Welcome...President Bush!!' 'Sorry I'm late Jay - I got bogged down in Iraq!!!'

Ha! ha! ha!

[proud2BlibKansan]

12. Yes she should

But I still won't vote for her.

[MADem]

15. It's not the fortieth anniversary yet. Today is 3 April. MLK was shot on the 4th.

This Black History Moment is brought to you by Popeye For President, 2008--because that's what you'll get if you keep up the petty bullshit and childish carping.


:eyes:

[DefenseLawyer]

16. I don't think she needs to apologize

She just needs to stop trying to be funny. Ever. She is just not funny. She is the Kenny Banya of politics.

[Nailzberg]

19. She shouldn't be joking about it anyway.

Someone is shot and killed every day in Los Angeles. I don't think it's a laughing matter.

[Unsane]

29. agreed

[DarienComp]

20. mmmph... no.

The anniversary is tomorrow. Also, I think I must have made about a dozen or so sniper jokes on this board so far.

[Unsane]

28. You weren't the one lying about it.

That's the point.

[JBoy]

33. Exactly.

The parallel with Bush's joke about WMDs is perfect:

Clinton lies about sniper fire > People are Pissed off > Clinton jokes about sniper fire
Bush lies about WMDs in Iraq > People are Pissed off > Bush jokes about WMDs.

[wileedog]

21. No, friggin drop it

And I say that an Obama supporter. This is retarded.

[Kittycat]

23. I'm also thinking about the soldiers she helped send to war, who died by Sniper fire.

What a complete ass!

[ClayZ]

24. Yes!

[sushi]

25. Politicians

They all lie. What's new.

[Celeborn Skywalker]

27. That's ridiculous.

C'mon on now.

[madrchsod]

32. it was a disgraceful joke on several levels

i think she does`t realize just how insensitive those words were.

[rocktivity]

34. Sniper fire is NEVER a laughing matter

especially if you made it part of a self-aggrandizing lie.

:headbang:
rocknation

[madrchsod]

41. you are one of those children that was left behind

you do know that there is a rather nasty gang war going on in la?...gun related deaths of school children in chicago is worse so far this year than any other. there`s also the deaths of people sitting in their homes
killed by "stray" bullets.
i do know that obama understands these problems because he lived there but hillary?

this is not a joke to the people who have lost loved ones on the streets of iraq or the streets in the usa. she thought she was funny but it showed how insensitive she is. we have a president now who makes jokes we don`t need another.

[WinkyDink]

53. there is a rather nasty gang war going on in la~~~No, why should I know this, in PA?

[Stuart G]

36. OVER 250 COMMENTS ON THIS TOPIC TONITE.. 4 THREADS...TOO LATE..

It doesn't matter. It is too late to even think about any response...If this gets out in the mainstream media, then tomorrow she will have hell to pay. Very bad judgment for a joke like this. 250 COMMENTS IN 2 HOURS????? WHAT WILL THE REST OF THE COUNTRY THINK???

[rasputin1952]

38. No...she made her statement, she is running for PotUS...

When I hear bush appologize for his lies, I think htat opens the door for discussion from HRC.

She was not politically astute for her statement, but to have her appologize, just before the anniversary of the MLK assassination, would be even less politically astute.

[tomreedtoon]

39. Did she help Bush look for WMD's, too?

It IS distasteful. I haven't said anything negative about Clinton here...before this...although I'm in favor of Obama. But not only is it a bad subject to talk about - one she is criticized for - but she doesn't have a sense of humor that could carry that joke.

[onenote]

40. No.

Geez. I imagine comics around the nation have been making jokes about Hillary and the "sniper" for weeks and I imagine some of them will make those jokes tonight and tomorrow. Should we round them up and make them engage in some act of public contrition?

More silliness from my fellow Obama supporters.

[thewiseguy]

42. I am sure our comics were making jokes on WMDs too.

[AGirl]

44. no

[Forkboy]

45. It wasn't a funny joke, but I bet she never even thought of this.

I think some of you are really taking this way too far. The connection is a tenuous one, at best.

[nebula]

46. She thinks this is funny?

[raqi]

47. Have all the Dems on DU gone mad?

When did all this hate, obfuscation, and nitpicking start? This is not at all what I expected.

Personally, I don't 'hate on' either candidate. I think both have both positives and negatives. But, the bottom line is that the GOP, not fellow Dems, have F'd up the country and it's standing in the world. Bush & Co. are the unethical/criminal ones who perpetuated fraud upon our country and the world resulting in crimes against humanity, the Constitution, our people, our troops, and the world.

Neither Hillary or Obama are the villains - I respect both for being willing to take on the massive clean up that will be necessary after GW.

I don't think either is a criminal, liar, unpatriotic, or whorish. They are both good Dems with slightly different approaches to things.

The real enemy will get away with their crimes if we continue down this self-destructive path.

We need to focus on investigations and hearings to shed light on the crimes this Admin has perpetuated upon our country and the world to serve their wealthy cronies --- and, hopefully, some justice can be served upon them before they escape to their 'sanctuaries'.

[Cha]

48. She shouldn't have done it in the first place

but she's too like bush to resist.

[tokenlib]

49. We can leave Hillary alone on this one....

The joke may be poorly timed, or in poor taste, or just an honest attempt at self-deprecating humor.
Since we don't know what she was thinking..why waste energy piling on. There are better issues to attack Hillary on than this.

Personally, I think she made a mistake bringing the subject up again--making a joke out of something that has become a joke doesn't help her. The new 3 am ad is a hoot too--the whole 3 am thing is getting silly.

[Starbucks Anarchist]

50. Huh?

:shrug:

[bellasgrams]

51. Is Bo going to apologize for all the racist remarks he has made

during the campaign to garner more black votes? Is he going to apologize to people for misinforming people about him being a professor, is he going to apologize for saying he doesn't work with any lobbyists, is he going to apologize for stretching the truth or downright lying on almost a daily bases about Hillary, and it goes on & on.

[doc03]

52. Oh for Christ sake you people are nuts, she made a

little self deprecating joke about the Bosnia fib and now it is some racist slur.

[jsamuel]

55. Should you apologize for using the assassination of MLK as a political bludgeon?

[HuffleClaw]

56. holy manufactured outrage batman

what a stretch, seriously.

[BenDavid]

57. oh help me L-rd.....so now hrc should apologize for the sniper

fire joke. Come on folks. I think you obama folks are looking around every corner trying to find something racist in every remark someone says. Damn! get real.....just how many folks other then the big bad racist hunters in the obama camp would even attempt to join the two...Goodness....

I would suspect you obama folks were not this pissed off and came in here spewing hate at bush when at the White House Correspondents dinner he hada video of him searching all over the white house for the weapons of mass destruction...and this was going on while our men and women WERE being killed in Iraq....

and if you wanna make something out of kosovo and bosnia, no soldier was killed in this little war....

[cliffordu]

58. And that makes lying FOUR TIMES about being under sniper

fire as proof of foreign policy experience, how???

She's a liar and now an insensitive clod, too. McCain will snap her in half with that little quote....

If he gets the chance.

Wait till they grab hold of it on talk radio down there in N carolina - she's


TOAST!!!!!

:nuke:

[Unsane]

59. yep

[crankychatter]

60. I despise Clinton but this is a non-issue, jeezus

seriously

[GodlessBiker]

61. No. She should apologize because it was a bad joke.

[moriah]

62. Talk about the race card...

As in, those who are attempting to make this into an issue of race are using it!

[DemVet]

64. Agreed.

[DemVet]

63. No.

[mod mom]

65. she has shown lack of judgement here, just as she has w who she surrounds herself

with and of course her tendency to LIE. Making light of it is disgusting!

[Beacool]

67. Aren't you overreaching????

What the hell does the Bosnia incident have to do with the anniversary of MLK's assassination??????

Please people, use some common sense!!!! I read more bullshit on this board than at the Freepers' site!!!!!!