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gabeana Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-02-08 05:37 PM
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Is this the type of voters the Clinton Campaign is counting on
She’s got this one locked,” said Mary Yates, a 67-year-old retired worker in a chemical factory. “No Muslim is going to be president. No drug addict. If Hillary isn’t the one, everyone I know will vote for John McCain.”

Her campaign may not be at liberty to say so, but that sort of sentiment--factually misguided though it may be--is just what the Clinton campaign needs right now. Mrs. Clinton trails Mr. Obama in elected delegates, and can pretty much only win by convincing the bulk of the party’s uncommitted superdelegates—the appointed political elites—that she has to be the party’s nominee in November if they want any shot of beating Mr. McCain.

http://www.observer.com/2008/gonna-fly-now-clinton-runs-rocky-philly
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anonymous171 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-02-08 05:38 PM
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1. That woman can go cheney herself. Blatant disregard for the Constitution.
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Seeker30 Donating Member (904 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-02-08 05:46 PM
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6. WTF does the Constitution have to do with voting for Obama??
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anonymous171 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-02-08 10:38 PM
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27. "No Muslim is going to be president"
Right there.
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Freedom Train Donating Member (479 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-03-08 01:04 AM
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49. What, Obama is a muslim now?
And you're attributing that quote to Hillary? Wrong on both accounts.

But I can tell you that no Muslim WILL be president of this country for at least another hundred years, constitutional amendments notwithstanding. A Muslim is simply unelectable for the highest office, sad but true.
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PseudoIntellect Donating Member (701 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-03-08 12:25 AM
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40. the very first amendment.
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Ravy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-03-08 01:20 AM
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51. The bill of rights restricts the government's actions.
Private citizens can apply a religious litmus test if they want to.

It is the same principle that you only have free speech allowed on here as long as the owner's allow it.
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Birthmark Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-02-08 05:41 PM
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2. Probably as much as Obama is counting on...
...those who won't vote for Hillary because "she killed Vince Foster." There's plenty of dipshits to go around.
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gabeana Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-02-08 05:42 PM
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3. That might be republicans but I don't see
democrats doing that
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Name removed Donating Member (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-02-08 05:58 PM
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virtualobserver Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-02-08 05:43 PM
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5. I've never heard of an Obama supporter make that argument.....
except for the imaginary Obama supporter in your mind.
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Birthmark Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-02-08 05:59 PM
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12. Ah, yes. I must be a liar or deluded.
There's no other way. The Church of Obama is pure and untainted. lol
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HiFructosePronSyrup Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-02-08 06:03 PM
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15. And/or
Two options.
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virtualobserver Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-02-08 06:15 PM
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19. I know nothing about you, so I can't make that judgement.....
but I've never met a Democrat who believed in the Vince Foster murder nonsense.
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Birthmark Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-02-08 07:11 PM
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21. One doesn't have to believe something...
...the Foster CT to use it to bludgeon Clinton. Cheap shots are fairly common in the game of politics.

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sniffa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-02-08 07:11 PM
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22. I don't believe it at all
But best believe I trot it out on every thread and post I see, claiming some insane Obama rumor/lie.
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Birthmark Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-02-08 07:14 PM
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23. Impossible!
I've been told that no Obama supporter would say such a thing. Therefore, you are mistaken. It is clearly impossible for you to have posted such a thing. :)
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rodeodance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-02-08 10:49 PM
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29. Those are the two hottest name-calls they toss at anything they disagree with.
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rodeodance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-02-08 10:49 PM
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30. and a 3rd name call is racist
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Zhade Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-03-08 01:14 AM
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50. Just like clinton.
NT!

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johnnydrama Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-02-08 07:53 PM
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25. didn't the Vince Foster thing
come from her good buddy Scaife?
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depakid Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-02-08 05:42 PM
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4. There are a lot of those out there...
Edited on Wed Apr-02-08 06:39 PM by depakid
which is one reason why Bush is still in office....

Though trying to slur Hillary with them is not exactly admirable conduct.
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goldcanyonaz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-02-08 05:47 PM
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8. Yeah, but it works so well around here.
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Zachstar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-02-08 05:47 PM
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7. The supers arent going to buy this horsecrap.
As we will be known as the party that supports bigots.

If that happened in any way shape or form I will leave as I am done being in bigot supporting political systems. Clinton needs to lash out at these scumbags.
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irish.lambchop Donating Member (877 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-02-08 05:48 PM
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9. The ignorance is astounding!
And she worked in a chemical factory?! I HAVE to hope it was in a capacity that did not involve using grey matter!
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flor de jasmim Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-02-08 05:53 PM
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10. Reader's comment on the article: Hillary is...
all fur coat and no knickers!! The poster is from N. Ireland, so I guess the expression is, too. Never heard it before, but I'll have to remember it!
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irish.lambchop Donating Member (877 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-02-08 06:01 PM
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13. A great phrase -
Usually used about someone with a lot of money and no class. In this case, I think it means all show, but nothing underneath - no substance.
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splat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-02-08 06:02 PM
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14. It's pretty effete to turn down anybody's votes if you want to be President
Or do you only want the ideologically pure to vote?
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Bucky Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-02-08 06:15 PM
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18. By the way, is Obama a Sunni or a Shiite? His website doesn't seem to specify either.
I get so confused sometimes....
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Irishonly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-02-08 06:22 PM
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20. Dumbing Down of America
There is too much crap and corruption from supporters. I guess they use the google like the dummy in the WH. No matter how many times myths are debunked about both of them, the email express keeps the slime coming. Where was Mary Yates when all the stuff was being said about Rev Wright? It just numbs the mind.
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backscatter712 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-02-08 07:38 PM
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24. And people wonder why I have no respect for Hillary.
These people are lowest of the low. Racists. Bigots. Intolerant. The willfully ignorant. On a good day, I will refuse to give them the time of day.

And Hillary is actively courting these shitheads.

I do not want racism in my party. I want ignorance to be actively combated by the Democratic Party. Any time some banjo-picking inbred retard like this repeats the Obama-is-a-Muslim meme or spews any other garbage from the right wing, he or she should be immediately corrected. I don't care if it pisses people off.

But nooooo. Hillary actively courts these cretins.

You know what, if telling these sheet-wearing tools to shove it means we get fewer votes, that we lose the election, then fuck it, we need to tell them to shove it.

I'd rather fight a clean, ethical and moral election and lose than play Hillary's say-anything-and-do-anything game and win.

At least I'd be able to sleep afterwards.
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truth please Donating Member (120 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-02-08 10:37 PM
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26. Thank you for saying what needs to be said
I say the same thing as you. This party needs to stand up for what is right. I don't think we should pander to the racists in this party. Let's flush them from the party. The Democratic party needs to stand for something and I hope that something is tolerance. There will be a special hell for racists.
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anamandujano Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-02-08 10:56 PM
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31. The jerk who wrote this article insinuated that she courts these people and
for your purposes you accept that. The "journalist" also managed to get some nasty sound bites which you now attribute to Hillary.

She was in the same room with them.

You excuse Obama for all of Rev Wright's nasties, even though he was mentored by him, even though he sat in a church pew with his family for all that time, and yet you can blame Hillary for this.

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Catherina Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-03-08 12:02 AM
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36. Insinuates? I see the living proof here everyday
It's really weird you have a monkey don't see attitude when racist HRC supporters post here.

The mods just put this idiot out of our misery



Here's to the mod's great streak :toast:
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Catherina Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-02-08 11:58 PM
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33. Thank you. I feel the same. n/t
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CatnHat Donating Member (669 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-03-08 12:20 AM
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37. Do you actually know
what you sound like. What is your problem. There are bigots on both sides of this; so getting bent out shape simply because some nut exercises his/her free speech, and blaming Clinton, is so far fetched it stinks. Another Obama post mentions to "flush" out the nuts in the same sentence touting tolerance. What the hell was that!! The church of Obama isn't as pure as Obama and supporters would like to think. So get off your pedestals and deal with the real world. Yeah, in the real world, there are bigots, racists, and all kind of nuts out there; so before you and your ilk get too wrapped up in Clinton hating; try to come down out of the clouds and deal with reality.

The majority of Americans do not condone this kind of behavior, but for Obama supporters to go below their level, blaming Clinton; while defending Obama with rev. Wright is more than just hypocritical.

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kwenu Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-02-08 10:47 PM
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28. LOL!!! Yeah. That ought to win over the superdelegates!
What a freakin joke!
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Blondiegrrl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-02-08 11:57 PM
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32. Ah, yes. The ignorance of the masses.
I wonder how many of those Clinton supporters voted for Bush in 2000 and 2004?

:banghead:
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bhikkhu Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-02-08 11:59 PM
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34. That has been a pretty common argument here...
Its Hillary or McCain, and the other guy isn't measuring up.
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Moochy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-03-08 12:00 AM
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35. Dont you dare insult that sweet ignorant woman!!
I AM MARY YATES !!!

WE ARE ALL MARY YATES!!! AIEEEE!!!!!

I think Mary Yates posts on DU.... LulaMay I'm looking at you

gobama.
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smalll Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-03-08 12:24 AM
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39. When you Obamatrons throw the working class under the bus, you throw our Party itself under --
/nt
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Moochy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-03-08 12:27 AM
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42. Where's she at, I still have gas in the fucking bus
Edited on Thu Apr-03-08 12:41 AM by Moochy
beep beep beep

I got plenty of gas in this bus for ignorant racist fucks.



But you and your SHILLBOT friends, wouldnt recognize racism if you were at a klan rally.
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scheming daemons Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-03-08 12:28 AM
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43. Is "working class" your new word for "ignorant racist white trash"?
Because the lady in the OP... if she represents "working class"... then the GOP can have them as a base.

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smalll Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-03-08 12:41 AM
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45. The lady in the OP is clearly mistaken, you are correct --
Edited on Thu Apr-03-08 12:47 AM by smalll
Obama isn't a Muslim. He's the son of atheist parents who is a long-time and free-will congregant at a black separatist church. (Good luck with that truth in November.)

But as to your question, no. From what I've been reading here recently however, I do get the idea that "ignorant racist white trash" is you Obamtrons' favored epithet for the working class. You know, the working class? The historical Democratic base?

The Obama kids need a history lesson: The Democratic Party's reason-for-being is not to raise cigarette taxes, ban plastic bags at the supermarket, force parents to keep their kids in special car seats until middle school (with mandated updates everytime the kid grows an inch or two) or otherwise cause trouble for the common man: the Democratic Party's reason-for-being is to FIGHT for him.

Hillary's not bowing out. On to Pennsylavina, on to North Carolina, on to Kentucky, on to the Convention. Our Girl will fight, fight and fight again to save the party we love.
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Moochy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-03-08 01:47 AM
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53. lies
"a black separatist church"

No wonder i had your scaly ass on ignore.

"Obama kids"

GIT OFF MAH LAWN, BRO!

Fight and Fight And Fight and Fight and Fight And Fight and Fight and Fight And Fight and Fight and Fight And Fight and Fight and Fight And Fight and Fight and Fight And Fight and Fight and Fight And Fight and Fight and Fight And Fight and Fight and Fight And Fight and Fight and Fight And Fight and Fight and Fight And Fight and Fight and Fight And Fight and Fight and Fight And Fight and Fight and Fight And Fight and Fight and Fight And Fight and

ruin the party we love.
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maspethboy Donating Member (6 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-03-08 12:22 AM
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38. There are millions of voters
Why you had to pick that one beats me.
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scheming daemons Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-03-08 12:29 AM
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44. That one represents thousands just like her......
....
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phrigndumass Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-03-08 12:44 AM
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46. You're talking to a ghost ... LOL
Mods are on fire tonight :loveya:

:rofl:
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scheming daemons Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-03-08 12:26 AM
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41. Hillary goes after the lowest common denominator..... that's her base....
...and we see them on DU all the time.


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CatnHat Donating Member (669 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-03-08 12:54 AM
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48. You are a fine example of
Obama supporter. If this is the way Obama and his camp run their campaign, through their vile supporters, Obama will be lucky to get 1% of Clinton supporters votes!!! Count on it!!! It's up to 28% already.
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Hawkeye-X Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-03-08 01:44 AM
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52. You're next.
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FlyingSquirrel Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-03-08 12:47 AM
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47. Maybe she'll have problems with her butterfly ballot.
:shrug:
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jackson_dem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-03-08 01:58 AM
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54. As if Oprah "I am supporting Obama because he is smart" is any better
Edited on Thu Apr-03-08 01:58 AM by jackson_dem
The difference is Oprah should have been able to articulate a single legitimate reason for supporting Obama (Clinton, Edwards, Biden, Dodd, Kucinich, Romney, McCain, Giuliani, Huckabee, are all smart too). She couldn't. I didn't see any hype in the msm, massive messianic rallies with Mary Yates headlining.
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