Hillary is busted for being a Liar, predictable Hillarites dub Obama 'King of all Lies'

[JackORoses]

Pigs feeding from the same trough.

Obama Caught LYING (again) About Kennedy's Role in Helping the Father who Abandoned him

Obama Overstates Kennedys' Role in Helping His Father

No "Professor" Obama

Obama campaign has trouble telling the truth - caught with his handwriting down

Politico: Barack filled out a survey on his position on issues. No he didn't. Yes he did

Obama's 'I Didn't Inhale' Defense and excellent clip!

NAFTA-gate Update aka Obama's Big Lie!!! Obama The Liar!


I hope you enjoyed our mini-vacation from Hillarite propaganda.

They're baaaaaaack!!

Please, for the love of all that's good, let this refuse sink to the depths.

[C_U_L8R]

1. That's Rove 101

When you've been caught redhanded,
accuse your opponent of the same.

Classic misdirection.

[Name removed]

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[DearAbby]

3. They are using the

It's okay for Hillary to lie, because Obama lies too argument. Problem is, they are pulling strawman arguments out of their asses. Hillary was caught in a bald faced lie...fabricating a story and repeating it on four separate occassions. What can they do?

*1 Admit it and deal with it.
*2 Dig hard as they can to pull the "HE DID IT TOO" excuse.

It seems they are trying hard for the #2...shit smear.

[TwilightGardener]

4. The Hillary Is 44-coordinated talking point of the day. Yawner.

[BOSSHOG]

5. By golly

they are acting just like Obama supporters, just huffing and puffing and lashing out as if they've gone out of their minds.

I would like someone in the Obama camp to share with me the Kennedy and his existence story. An Obama spokesman said the Senator "had erred" in crediting the Kennedy's with getting his father to this country. Is the spokesman lying?

[JackORoses]

7. Is Hillary a Liar? Yes or No.

[BOSSHOG]

8. Thats funny

So you value honesty and want politicians to tell the truth (except for your candidate.) Both of them are liars, ya can't have it both ways. I suggest that Obama and Clinton give their delegates to General Clark to ensure a democratic victory in November.

Now about that Kennedy is the reason I exist today quote. True? False? An error? A misspeak? A lie? A good way to get a Kennedy to endorse him?

Okay resume going out of your mind.

[PatGund]

11. You know.....

So you value honesty and want politicians to tell the truth (except for your candidate.) Both of them are liars, ya can't have it both ways. I suggest that Obama and Clinton give their delegates to General Clark to ensure a democratic victory in November.

I suspect I'm not the only person against Sen. Clinton who could happily get behind that idea. :-)

[BOSSHOG]

14. General Clark

has been my candidate since before the 2004 election. My only candidate regardless of his entry into the race. Whomever gets the nomination would be foolhardy not to make General Clark part of their administration, and the best post would be Secretary of State.

[RaleighNCDUer]

23. An error. He failed to properly vet a bit of family mythology

about something that happened before he was born.

Fact: His father did come over under that program.
Fact: Kennedy supported that program.
Fact: He learned about Kennedy supporting that program from his parents.
Is it possible that his father did not know that Kennedy did NOT support that program at the time he benefited by it? A Kenyan immigrant with little knowledge of American politics, if he found out a year and a half later about Kennedy's support, would he have noticed that the support came 6 months earlier rather than 18 months earlier? And admiring Pres. Kennedy, might he not have said "That man is the reason you are here" to baby Obama?

How sure are you about everything that happened in your own family before you were born into it? Any family myths that you think might need vetting?

[BOSSHOG]

31. Another member of Obama's Comedy Central

Hillary is an evil lying whore slut, but our God would never "err." I'm not running for President and I don't have to posture to get endorsements. I am unfamiliar with my family going back past the 80 year mark but if I did I would not LIE about it. Obama is a politician not a God. You people are hilarious.

Actually in the mind of Obama supporters Jesus Christ would say Obama you are my son. Go forth and rid the world of lying whores!

Thank God for the democratic party, 30+ year members like me exist and will not be run off by the lunatics who are pushing Obama's nomination.

[RaleighNCDUer]

41. 37 years, youngster, of trying to preserve the progressive

Democratic party from assholes like you.

I get to ignore 2 people in one night. That's a first for me.

[dchill]

50. Ahem. Is Hillary a Liar? Yes or No.

? Simple question, really.

[DemocratSinceBirth]

16. All Politicians Gild The Lily

That being said , HRC was beyond dumb to go there...

[Cha]

20. Since bosshog won't answer it..poor little hilary got busted

for lying about a military operation in Bosnia..I will.

Yes, hilary clinton is a world class liar who's a danger to her country.

<snips>

"Why Is Hillary Clinton Lying?"

by Robert Parry
March 26, 2008—Two weeks ago, I wrote a story that observed a disturbing trend in Hillary Clinton’s campaign – her growing tendency to stretch the truth, twist what her chief rival was saying and then rely on her supporters to go on the offensive against you if you spoke up.


These tendencies were troubling, in part, because they mirrored what had become so common during George W. Bush’s years: to declare that a fantasy is the truth and then to attack the patriotism or sanity of anyone who thinks otherwise. I wrote:

“Throughout history, it’s been common for politicians to shade the truth when caught in a tight spot. But sometimes politicians push the limits, crossing the line into an Orwellian world where up is down, where bullies are victims, where people objecting to the lies are shouted down.”

The article cited a number of examples of Clinton turning reality inside out and repeating false attack lines against Barack Obama, such as claiming that he wanted to "bomb Pakistan" when he really advocated attacking al-Qaeda targets inside Pakistan if the government there refused to act.

A week later, I cited a report in the Boston Globe about Clinton exaggerating her behind-the-scenes support for the State Children’s Health Insurance Program – which was fashioned and passed by a bipartisan congressional effort led by Sen. Ted Kennedy, D-Massachusetts, and Sen. Orrin Hatch, R-Utah. I noted that Clinton had transformed her peripheral role into a central theme of her campaign.

“In Clinton’s narrative, she picked herself up from her failed health-care plan, learned some lessons, and then pushed through a slimmed-down measure (S-CHIP) that has produced important results for millions of American families,” my story said.

Not surprisingly, these articles questioning Clinton's truthfulness drew furious reactions from Clinton’s supporters who seem on perpetual alert to any criticism of their candidate, so it can be repudiated as an example of “sexism,” “Hillary bashing” or membership in some “Barack Obama cult.”"

http://baltimorechronicle.com/2008/032608Parry.shtml

[BOSSHOG]

29. Yo

I did answer the question. Zealotry is often blinding.

[Cha]

30. So yeah, hilary is a liar and all your little

snide comments about Obama's supporters doesn't change that.

[BOSSHOG]

32. Change what??

I get a kick out of reading posts from most of Obama's supporters. He God. She slut. She lie. He God.

You generate my "snide" comments. You should be proud.

Now let me be you for a moment.

DID OBAMA LIE? ANSWER MY FUCKING QUESTION. See, I can be an insane supporter of a candidate just like you. Here's a hint for the answer. YES!

[Cha]

37. It doesn't change that hilary's is a fucking LIAR

who regaled tales of Bosnian Sniper Fire at her head which brought the ire of Bosnians and this female Soldier who was in Bosnia at the time.

Bosnian Vet Accuses Hillary of Valor Theft
http://pennsylvaniaprogressive.typepad.com/my_weblog/20...

A veteran of Bosnia who was at the event in Tuzla where Hillary Clinton falsely claimed to have landed under sniper fire is accusing the Senator of theft of valor. As General Walter L. Stewart Jr. of the Pennsylvania National Guard said earlier today on a conference call, soldiers who actually have been in war zones and performed under fire deeply despise those who falsely claim such valor. They feel this way because it attempts to cheapen or make less, their real and actual valor.

The General pointed out "this wasn't an emergency resupply mission to the Alamo. If there had been any danger that mission wouldn't have landed."

Common sense tells us the First Lady and Chelsea would never have been put in harms way by our military. Hillary's tale of bravery and valor, because it was false, is finding resentment among those who actually did serve and Tammi K. (nee Jann) Hertherington who was at Tuzla when Senator Clinton landed is one. Here is her story.

Dear Sir,

I feel compelled to write to you in regards to Senator Clinton’s remarks regarding her visit to Bosnia.

I was present at the base in question when the First Lady visited and am intimately familiar with the situation on the ground at the time. It strikes me as beyond misstatement or clarity of memory for Senator Clinton to suggest that this visit in any way compares with the reality of those of us serving in theater experienced or presented a threat to her or her daughter.

As a service person in the US Army, I was deployed to Bosnia immediately after the Peace Accord was signed and served there for eleven months in 1996. I was there at Tuzla Air base when the First Lady visited, and there was no sniper fire or anyone running under cover. I saw both the First Lady and her daughter in our headquarters building (we called it the 'White House'). When I saw them in the lobby of our Headquarters neither her or her daughter had on the "Flak" vests which even we were required to wear at all times when not inside a building.

It was my fortune to be working in the Headquarter building as a Communications Specialist, and while I did go out to the ZOS (Zone of Separation) once and lived under "Full battle rattle" rules, I would never in any way compare my experience with those who daily risked their lives. That was the M.P.'s who went on daily missions trying to round up weapons and militant individuals who opposed the Peace Accord and the contract workers who aided the Multi-National forces in trying to rebuild the infrastructure (bridges, communication, water) that had been blown up. If, as I believe, it is improper for me to compare my involvement with those who took the bulk of the real risks it is even more improper for any visiting dignitary to compare their own for any reason, let alone for personal gain.

I am quite angry that what I and my fellow soldiers worked to achieve should be used as a playing card to build up a political nominee and tear down another. This is not what those of us who actually risked our lives were working for, we were trying to maintain a Peace Keeping mission in a country that had been ravaged by ethnic cleansing. To trivialize the atrocities suffered by the real people I met in that country for political gain is beyond my ability to comprehend. I met mothers who had lost their children and children who had lost their parents. The sheer leap of credibility that the First Lady would have brought her daughter into an active war zone is an insult to the people there who suffered more than real risk, they suffered real loss.

I did have contact with some of the general population on a daily basis. Many came to work for the Military in custodial capacities. Many carried all that they possessed in plastic bags every day. They brought their own food and cooked daily on little burner plates. I was constantly amazed at how upbeat and optimistic some of the people were in spite of things. It still is hard for me to think of Srebenica and all of the women who lost husbands, sons, and fathers because of religion and nationalistic fervor.

My father still works as a Civil Servant at WOMAK on Ft. Bragg, NC and a couple of years ago he met a Bosnian woman and her daughter, who had lived through the worst of it. They got to talking and found out that I had been over there and told him to tell me 'thank you' for what we had done. It still humbles me and chokes me up a little to know that even after all of these years there is appreciation for our past efforts.

I was simply a soldier doing my job in Bosnia and I believe in what we accomplished there. I do not either want to make of my service more than it was nor to denigrate those who served with me and those who lived through more than any of us. It seems to me that if I simply stand by while others “spin” their involvement for their own personal or political ambitions that I would be contributing to the slander of my fellows in arms and the people we were working to help in Bosnia, so I offer you my personal experience of the reality of the situation.

To verify my story I have included a copy of an commendation I received for service in the Bosnian theater during that period. It would be my honor to provide you more of my perspective if it would serve to deliver the truth to the American people.

Best Regards,

Tammi K Hetherington (nee Jann)

(formerly)

SPC

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=132x5265534

NObody called hilary a "slut", but you bosshog.

[Hawkeye-X]

38. Let me ask you a question BossHog, and I want an honest answer from you.

General Clark was a Supreme Allied Commander of NATO, correct?

There was a genocide happening in Bosnia and Herzegovina, correct?

Clark helped stop the genocide, correct?

No Americans were killed in the conflict, except for an helicopter accident that killed one, correct?

If you said yes to all of the above or correct me, then let me ask you this one last question.

Why the FUCK did Hillary lie about being under sniper fire?

Hawkeye-X

[BOSSHOG]

49. I

can't answer the question why? I'm not privy to the motivations of a politician. I have said she is a liar and has lied and most likely will again. My point is totally ignored here. She is not the only politician and the only liar vying for the democratic nomination.

Let me ask you one last question. Why do Obama supporters wear blinders when it comes to the faults of their candidate?

I'd like to see them both drop out and give the nomination to General Clark.

[Sinistrous]

19. Does this address your concerns?

(Earrlier DU Post)

[BOSSHOG]

21. No

That thread is a classic Obama supporting diatribe which occurs anytime anything approaching criticism of their perfect candidate arises. He "erred" per his spokesman. The post you offer does not counter Obama's speech of last year in anyway. BUT, he did get a bunch of Kennedy endorsements. He's a politician, not a God.

[Sinistrous]

24. Damn. And to think I took you off ignore just to read that tripe.

It sure says a lot about your intellectual integrity when you characterize quotes from sources as a "diatribe".

[BOSSHOG]

28. Thanks for proving my point

And as a typical Obama worshiper you have me on ignore for UNITY'S SAKE???? Go ahead cultists win the election on your own.

[Whisp]

33. liar, liar, pantsuit on fire.

may as well accept it, this is what she is and there will be little forgetting about it.

she snipered herself, obama didn't lie and said she said. Those very words came out of her lieing mouth. on three diffrent occassions.

big fat liar on a bush scale.
you may be okay with that, but many aren't.

[Oilwellian]

48. Bosshog, I've known you for years...

and always felt a special bond with you because of our Louisiana ties. We are fellow Americans as well and have been against Bush and the republicans for years. I couldn't count how many posts of yours that I've read through the years and I'm sure you could say the same about me. We're fellow DU'ers who have always had common goals for this country.

To read your post is just heartbreaking for me. I guess you think I'm a "cultist" as well since I support a different candidate than you. I will find your words hard to forget once this primary is over. Then again, if you're refusing to support the democratic nominee, I suspect your days on DU are numbered. It was swell knowing you....back then.

[BOSSHOG]

51. If you have read my posts

recently I have said and have always said that I will support with gusto whomever the Democratic Party nominates for President. I haven't voted for a republican presidential candidate (or an independent) (or a republican for any other election) since 1976 and as I tell my republican neighbors I haven't gotten stupider since then.

I've obviously failed at communicating because Obama supporters do not want to hear that their candidate has faults, has lied during this campaign and in the past. Many of them just want to put people on ignore and press forward tomorrow wearing blinders. Is that the way we promote unity? By ignoring people?

My candidate has been General Clark since before the 2004 election right up to today and he will continue to be.

Thanks for the threat. If I don't walk in lockstep I'll be banned? By who? Those who have me on ignore? Those who choose to alienate others who have supported the party for decades?

[apocalypsehow]

6. Lord have mercy, it's hard to resist responding to that kind of bilge.

:mad:

:puke:

[Skip Intro]

9. Thanks for the list, sunshine.

Got some kicking to do...

:kick:


...and I must say, after some of the attacks I have seen from you on Hillary and her supporters here, to see you whine about poor little Obama being called out causes me to chuckle. What color is the sky in that Obamasphere?

[Sinistrous]

22. Tell me something;

Are you delusional or just really into projection?

[DemocratSinceBirth]

10. I Didn't Chroncle Anybody's Lies

But most folks especially politicians gild the lily...

[Flabbergasted]

12. I have almost all those folks on Ignore.

[MonkeyFunk]

13. I hope your candidate

isn't as much of a whiny baby as his supporters here are.

You guys run with every smear on Clinton you can find, then pretend to be outraged if anybody says anything less-than-glowing about your guy. It's pretty funny.

[UALRBSofL]

17. MonkeyFunk You make a good talking point

Someone posted a link to a site where Obama attacks and lies about Hillary, like a rolling timeline, it's pretty cool. Do you have the link to the site?

[JackORoses]

25. Just because Hillary is a Liar, doesn't give you the right to smear an honest man as one

How do you feel about Sniper fire, Funky Monkey?

[MonkeyFunk]

44. I think it's nowhere near as important

as Obama's underhanded injection of race into the primaries.

[JackORoses]

47. you mean by being black?

only a Hillarite would think that's underhanded.

Hill and Bill have proven themselves worse than the idiot racists.
They are so low as to play on the prejudices of these people to garner votes, all the while putting on a facade of being pro civil rights.
They say "We are part of the New Politics" while using all the dirtiest tricks of the old game.

One day you will see them and what they have done. It may take years, though.

[indimuse]

15. thanks for the 'promo'

wink.

[JackORoses]

26. a real flapper would spit bootleg whiskey in Hillary's eye for claiming to be a feminist

[indimuse]

42. yours is the 4 th physical assault ,insinuated towards Hillary today...

Obama's peep are starting to get violent now?

[Cha]

18. hilary is the fucking LIAR who dissed the military when she

she lied about her Bosnia Fire by Snipers on her trip to hear the little girl's poem.

And a female Bosnian Vet was deeply offended by hilary's lies.

Bosnian Vet Accuses Hillary of Valor Theft
http://pennsylvaniaprogressive.typepad.com/my_weblog/20...

A veteran of Bosnia who was at the event in Tuzla where Hillary Clinton falsely claimed to have landed under sniper fire is accusing the Senator of theft of valor. As General Walter L. Stewart Jr. of the Pennsylvania National Guard said earlier today on a conference call, soldiers who actually have been in war zones and performed under fire deeply despise those who falsely claim such valor. They feel this way because it attempts to cheapen or make less, their real and actual valor.

The General pointed out "this wasn't an emergency resupply mission to the Alamo. If there had been any danger that mission wouldn't have landed."

Common sense tells us the First Lady and Chelsea would never have been put in harms way by our military. Hillary's tale of bravery and valor, because it was false, is finding resentment among those who actually did serve and Tammi K. (nee Jann) Hertherington who was at Tuzla when Senator Clinton landed is one. Here is her story.

Dear Sir,


I feel compelled to write to you in regards to Senator Clinton’s remarks regarding her visit to Bosnia.

I was present at the base in question when the First Lady visited and am intimately familiar with the situation on the ground at the time. It strikes me as beyond misstatement or clarity of memory for Senator Clinton to suggest that this visit in any way compares with the reality of those of us serving in theater experienced or presented a threat to her or her daughter.

As a service person in the US Army, I was deployed to Bosnia immediately after the Peace Accord was signed and served there for eleven months in 1996. I was there at Tuzla Air base when the First Lady visited, and there was no sniper fire or anyone running under cover. I saw both the First Lady and her daughter in our headquarters building (we called it the 'White House'). When I saw them in the lobby of our Headquarters neither her or her daughter had on the "Flak" vests which even we were required to wear at all times when not inside a building.

It was my fortune to be working in the Headquarter building as a Communications Specialist, and while I did go out to the ZOS (Zone of Separation) once and lived under "Full battle rattle" rules, I would never in any way compare my experience with those who daily risked their lives. That was the M.P.'s who went on daily missions trying to round up weapons and militant individuals who opposed the Peace Accord and the contract workers who aided the Multi-National forces in trying to rebuild the infrastructure (bridges, communication, water) that had been blown up. If, as I believe, it is improper for me to compare my involvement with those who took the bulk of the real risks it is even more improper for any visiting dignitary to compare their own for any reason, let alone for personal gain.

I am quite angry that what I and my fellow soldiers worked to achieve should be used as a playing card to build up a political nominee and tear down another. This is not what those of us who actually risked our lives were working for, we were trying to maintain a Peace Keeping mission in a country that had been ravaged by ethnic cleansing. To trivialize the atrocities suffered by the real people I met in that country for political gain is beyond my ability to comprehend. I met mothers who had lost their children and children who had lost their parents. The sheer leap of credibility that the First Lady would have brought her daughter into an active war zone is an insult to the people there who suffered more than real risk, they suffered real loss.

I did have contact with some of the general population on a daily basis. Many came to work for the Military in custodial capacities. Many carried all that they possessed in plastic bags every day. They brought their own food and cooked daily on little burner plates. I was constantly amazed at how upbeat and optimistic some of the people were in spite of things. It still is hard for me to think of Srebenica and all of the women who lost husbands, sons, and fathers because of religion and nationalistic fervor.

My father still works as a Civil Servant at WOMAK on Ft. Bragg, NC and a couple of years ago he met a Bosnian woman and her daughter, who had lived through the worst of it. They got to talking and found out that I had been over there and told him to tell me 'thank you' for what we had done. It still humbles me and chokes me up a little to know that even after all of these years there is appreciation for our past efforts.

I was simply a soldier doing my job in Bosnia and I believe in what we accomplished there. I do not either want to make of my service more than it was nor to denigrate those who served with me and those who lived through more than any of us. It seems to me that if I simply stand by while others “spin” their involvement for their own personal or political ambitions that I would be contributing to the slander of my fellows in arms and the people we were working to help in Bosnia, so I offer you my personal experience of the reality of the situation.

To verify my story I have included a copy of an commendation I received for service in the Bosnian theater during that period. It would be my honor to provide you more of my perspective if it would serve to deliver the truth to the American people.

Best Regards,

Tammi K Hetherington (nee Jann)

(formerly)

SPC

141 Signal Battalion, 22nd Signal Brigade, 1st Armored Division, US Army

Task Force Eagle

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=132x5265534

hilary is a tragic joke who's a danger to our country.

[McCamy Taylor]

27. This is what the politics of tit for tat get you. Hillary is called a "liar" for one mistatement

and that opens the door for the press to start playing the game with both candidates.

Obama's supporters are extremely naive. The RNC plays them like... but I will not go there.

[Whisp]

34. one mistatement......

:rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl:

:rofl:

:rofl: :rofl:

[goletian]

35. there is a lot of hate in the hearts of hillary supporters -- its pretty sad.

i feel sorry for you guys. grasping at straws, pretending obama lies about stuff when he hasnt.

[TheDonkey]

36. They are starting to trickle back in now that Snipergate is cooling

and they are done licking their wounds from a potential fatal LIE that Hillary tried telling across America about Bosnia.

They'll be gone soon enough when this new slime they are slinging doesn't stick and Hillary's other lies are exposed.

[skater314159]

39. It's Projection 101! nt

[zulchzulu]

40. Their pea shooters and spitballs are doing nothing to help the Goldwater Girl

[DemVet]

43. You gotta admit, Obama has told some tall tales also.

Go ahead, though, be hypocritical about it.

[madrchsod]

45. did you ever think that he is lieing?

did you ever think the hillary supporters are telling the truth?
did you ever think the hillary supporters are right?

can you name one lie that hillary has told?............that`s what i thought-> you can`t!


:crazy: :woohoo: :crazy:

[izzybeans]

46. I'm absolutely amazed at how uniformly and orchestrated the Clinton machine

has operated on this issue and on this board even.