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BklynChick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-31-08 02:18 PM
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Obama supporters: we need to stop calling for Hillary to quit
Edited on Mon Mar-31-08 02:19 PM by BklynChick
It's obvious she's positioning this whole thing as her as victim, this is sexism directed her way, etc. Let her stay in. Who cares? She's going to lose anyway, and I'd hate to think she drummed up the sympathy card because of people calling for her to step down.

I think the real issue which I don't hear anyone saying is the way she is campaigning and attacking Obama at the risk of the Democrats taking the GE. If she would stick to the issues, if she would stop propping up the Republicans, if she would stop attacking Obama on petty shit, if she would stop giving the impression that she cares more about herself than the party, then no one would be calling for her to get out of the race.
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Kittycat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-31-08 02:19 PM
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1. I agree... Let her stay in and Huckabee herself, I don't care.
Edited on Mon Mar-31-08 02:19 PM by Kittycat
She's irrelevant now anyway... Maybe it's "Hillabee" instead of huckabee?
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anonymous171 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-31-08 02:19 PM
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2. Yes. Obama needs to invite her to stay or something.
That'll shut her up.
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murielm99 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-31-08 02:48 PM
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22. Oh yes. She needs his permission. n/t
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anonymous171 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-31-08 03:02 PM
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23. Yes, actually she does. Or else she will play the "victim" card ad nauseum.
He should hold a press conference.
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murielm99 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-31-08 03:11 PM
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25. See post #3.
And pay attention to what your candidate has been saying.
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MADem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-31-08 02:20 PM
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3. If you are an Obama supporter, you should listen to your candidate.
He said let the race continue.

Anyone who persists in calling for one party to leave before the votes are counted just might have an agenda that favors neither Democrat.

Hey, it could happen.
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ginnyinWI Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-31-08 02:27 PM
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18. he's right
And he's very politically smart to say so, as he did the other day. :)
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guyanakoolaid Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-31-08 03:08 PM
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24. But the votes HAVE been counted
Since it is now virtually certain she does not have a mathematical chance of winning, she should drop out. Nothing personal, nothing here about lies or character, just mathematics.

The only reason she is staying in is in her desperate bid to possibly override the mathematics with a back-room deal, or to position herself for a future run, both of which are not good for Democrats.

She needs to drop out.
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MADem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-31-08 03:23 PM
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27. What a load of shit. They haven't. You can't count votes that haven't
been cast....unless you are a Republican.

Who of the two has 2024? Anyone? Buehler?

:eyes:
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sandnsea Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-31-08 02:20 PM
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4. We do need to recognize Obama has won
And quit acting as if any of the races to come will make a difference. They won't. Hillary can do whatever she wants. Obama is the nominee.
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Bicoastal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-31-08 02:21 PM
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5. 'Tis true. While I understand the calls for her to step down, I haven't joined in.
My gut feeling is she'll step down after a narrow victory in Penn versus a landslide drubbing in NC.
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anonymous171 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-31-08 02:22 PM
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8. She's trying to pull an NH in PA. I predict that she will cry this week.
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TwilightGardener Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-31-08 02:21 PM
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6. I guess Mike Huckabee was a victim of "sexism" too, when it became
apparent that he could only win if McCain had a massive stroke and people wanted him to drop out and stop forcing McCain to waste money and energy competing with him. It's ridiculous spin, but female victimization is all she has left. Pretty sure the tears are coming.
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BklynChick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-31-08 02:22 PM
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9. to be fair, she is a lot closer than Huckabee. and yes, the tears should be coming soon
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TwilightGardener Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-31-08 02:24 PM
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14. Not really--not with proportional delegate awarding. It may look closer numerically, but
Edited on Mon Mar-31-08 02:24 PM by wienerdoggie
our primaries aren't winner-take-all, like the GOPers.
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Life Long Dem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-31-08 02:21 PM
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7. When is Hillary going to quit? n/t
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napoleon_in_rags Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-31-08 02:22 PM
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10. The only way Obama can lose is to terminally piss of Hillary supporters.
And though Obamas victory is pretty much mathematically guaranteed, the only thing I see Obama "supporters" here do is post things which will piss off Hillary supporters. All he needs to do is ignore her.
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Erin Elizabeth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-31-08 02:22 PM
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I don't care if she stays in or not.
I am concerned that her campaign is working hard on trying to broker a back room deal to get the nomination. I wouldn't put that past her at all.
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DJ13 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-31-08 02:22 PM
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11. Thats kinda like telling the bully to keep hitting you, isnt it?
If you really want a bruised and damaged candidate before we even reach the convention, yes by all means lets stop saying Clinton should quit.

:eyes:
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BklynChick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-31-08 02:25 PM
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15. I agree with you, but these people telling her to quit should tell her to clean up her campaign
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peace13 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-31-08 02:23 PM
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12. I'll trade her.
She can stay in the race as long as she wants. In return, her speeches will be truthful and her actions honorable. I just can't take the untruthiness. Peace, Kim
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NJmaverick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-31-08 02:23 PM
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13. I think she should stay in
as long as she remembers she should be targetting the real enemy, McCain.
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democrattotheend Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-31-08 02:25 PM
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16. Agreed 100%
It does nothing but piss her supporters off. And honestly, if she were as dead as some people claim she is, her poll numbers would be lower and she would not have such a big lead in Pennsylvania. We need to stop saying it's over and start working to help Barack narrow the gap in Pennsylvania, because if he can pull off a miracle and win there by even 1 vote, it's over.
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Yael Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-31-08 02:26 PM
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17. The longer she stays in, the more she embarasses herself.
Senator Tonya is doing her best to cripple the party, but it is going to backfire on her huge.

No sense adding to the "victim" mentality as that will just prolong the drama.
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C_U_L8R Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-31-08 02:28 PM
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19. She can stay as long as she wants :-))))
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Cant trust em Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-31-08 02:37 PM
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20. She can stay in as long as she wants, if she plays it clean
Let me say that there are somethings that need to be said about the opposition that are appropriate. Some people call it attack politics, but it's the way it goes.

That being said, there is a certain point where attack politics become cheap shots. A point where it becomes damaging to the party as a whole. Talking about McCain's lifetime of experience and Obama's speech in 2002 is one of those points.
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me b zola Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-31-08 02:39 PM
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21. As someone who has called for her to quit, I must say that I agree with you
She is appearing more and more irrelevant and is choking the life out of her political career.
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ieoeja Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-31-08 03:12 PM
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26. K&R
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IamyourTVandIownyou Donating Member (446 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-31-08 03:30 PM
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28. Agree, she has a right to run.
Good luck with financing that losing campaign however.

I am feeling now that she will lose Pennsylvania with only $2MM Net Cash on hand. ($9MM debt, $11MM cash).

Obama has $30MM, and its time to hit the airwaves in PA, and beat her.

And actually, I think a drawn-out process is ok for the dems.

Look at those pictures of Penn State. How many new dems did Obama's tough contest bring in to politics.


Just let them fall apart. They will. Give it time.

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Vinca Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-31-08 03:33 PM
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29. All I want is for her to quit yelling her speeches.
Can't she talk in a normal tone of voice? She reminds me of my long dead stepmother, the much despised Irene.
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PetraPooh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-31-08 03:48 PM
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31. But all that screaming and all the lies and all the traitorous crap, is just shooting herself; so
keep it up Hillary, don't change a thing, continue to commit political harikari for the whole world to see, that way no one will ever doubt that you were the WRONG choice.
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TheDonkey Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-31-08 03:36 PM
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30. She can stay in as long as she likes but I think DU needs to endorse Obama and other outlets too
because he is the presumptive nominee and give Hillary the Huckabee treatment because she is there.
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AX10 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-31-08 03:55 PM
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32. The nutroots have been doing this from day one.
Air America and the blogs have railed against her from day one.
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anonymous171 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-31-08 03:56 PM
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33. Wow, "nutroots", that's a new one. Pick it up from Rush?
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Cha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-31-08 04:00 PM
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34. Yeah, the victim worked so well
back in New Hampshire..time to drag that out again.

Obama says hilary can do whatever she wants so he put the kibosh on her latest victimhood.



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anonymous171 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-31-08 04:10 PM
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36. But the MSM this morning was ignoring his remarks. They're playing her up.
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Cha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-31-08 04:32 PM
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37. Of course, they are...and the way Obama
is winning this is taking it directly to the people.

Fondest wish is for the m$$$m to swirl down the bathtub drain with all their lies and whomever they're propping up.
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JayFredMuggs Donating Member (881 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-31-08 04:06 PM
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35. Why?
Because she will run out of money anyway?

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