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dkf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-30-08 11:43 AM
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Major money problems in the Clinton camp may soon become a coroner knocking on her campaign door
Is Hillary broke?

March 29, 2008
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BY MICHAEL SNEED Sun-Times Columnist

Scoop du jour? Sneed hears major money problems in the Clinton camp may soon become a coroner knocking on her campaign door.

To wit: Word is the cash feeding into Hillary Clinton's campaign coffers has not only slowed down in a big way, undisclosed campaign debts that have yet to be made public could signal the end and have insiders biting their nails.
"Hillary needs to raise money to stay alive," a top Dem source said.

Translation: "It won't necessarily be politics which may force her out of the race," said a top Dem source. "There is no hanky panky going on, but Hillary needs to raise money to stay alive . . . and word is she may not be able to climb out of the money hole."

The buckshot: "I think it's safe to say Hillary's not going to dip into her pocket again," the source added. "And if her employees start taking pay cuts while chasing the dream . . . it's usually the beginning of the body becoming totally cold."

http://www.suntimes.com/news/sneed/865494,CST-NWS-SNEED28.article
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RazBerryBeret Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-30-08 11:47 AM
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1. finances could force her out...
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dkf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-30-08 11:58 AM
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2. I wonder if she needs to win the primary in order to get her $5 million back
and pay all her bills.

She's got money in the bank, but it is all tied to winning the primary and getting into the general election.

Could this be the real reason behind her desperate strategy?
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Whisp Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-30-08 12:03 PM
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6. if she doesn't cover her debts, could they be considered donations?
couldn't that mean trouble for her because so many top the $2300?

maybe that's an angle for Obama lawyers?

have no idea how this works, just blue skying.
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Debi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-30-08 12:07 PM
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10. I think they can forgive up to a regular contribution amount as an 'in kind' donation
However, general electioin funds cannot pay primary debts incurred AND what about the county fair grounds, school districts and colleges. Tax payers foot those bills if the Clinton camp doesn't pay them.
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dkf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-30-08 12:10 PM
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12. I know when banks forgive loans to regular people it is considered taxable income.
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roguevalley Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-30-08 12:57 PM
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29. most forgiven money is taxable as capital gains. remember that when
you negotiate a settlement on credit cards.
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bicentennial_baby Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-30-08 12:00 PM
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3. Hell, Maggie Williams is working for free...
Which I don't think is a widely known fact.
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RazBerryBeret Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-30-08 12:03 PM
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7. Maggie Williams also
was a director on the board of a Long Island subprime lender.
from April 2000 til this past December when the Lender went into Bankruptcy.

Subprime Lending---isn't that one of Clinton's big causes?
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Debi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-30-08 12:03 PM
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8. Hell, everyone she owes $8.7 million to worked for free as well
they just didn't know it at the time! :wow:
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SoonerPride Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-30-08 12:01 PM
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4. Bean counters will take the place of party elders and tell her to quit
Edited on Sun Mar-30-08 12:02 PM by SoonerPride
The party elders don't have the spine to tell her.

But after N Carolina and Indiana, she will quit.

She cannot go on.

Money trumps all and she is broke.
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OzarkDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-30-08 12:03 PM
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5. GOP donors focusing on Obama
apparently he's convinced them he's the one who will further their agenda, if elected.

Please don't tell me all about Obama's donors. I know what "bundling" is and Obama's record of lying about this is well documented.
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Debi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-30-08 12:04 PM
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9. Did the Clinton camp rent the smoke and mirrors - or did they have to pay cash? n/t
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RazBerryBeret Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-30-08 12:13 PM
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15. used credit. n/t
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Debi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-30-08 12:19 PM
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16. There's yet another 'unpaid invoice'
x(
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RazBerryBeret Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-30-08 12:21 PM
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18. who here thinks
she can manage our HealthCare?

Isn't she planning to garnish wages...hey, I don't want her touching my checks, I can screw up my own bills, thank you very much....
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Debi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-30-08 12:27 PM
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19. She's not managing her own campaign's health care expenses
If any of us here didn't pay our health care premiums we'd lose our health care. The Clinton camp owes $500,000 in campaign health care expenses. x(

Can we garnish CLINTON'S wages?
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Shakespeare Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-30-08 12:09 PM
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11. But Richard Mellon Scaife hearts Hillay!!!
:rofl:
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cliffordu Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-30-08 12:11 PM
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13. LOL!!
:rofl:
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screembloodymurder Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-30-08 12:32 PM
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21. Why do you think she met with Richard Mellon Scaife?
He just bought himself a candidate and she made a bargain with the devil.
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unblock Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-30-08 12:11 PM
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14. this going around calling obama a republican thing is really over the top
it's entirely ridiculous and you're not going to get anyone to agree with you other than those who are already highly partisan hillary backers.
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JayFredMuggs Donating Member (881 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-30-08 12:36 PM
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26. So you know all about it?
How smart!

Please explain how 500,000 individual human donors averaging about $100 a piece over the internet is "bundling"?
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roguevalley Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-30-08 12:58 PM
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30. okay. we won't confuse you with the truth. and thank you for telling
us how they do it since I can see you are such an insider to the Obama campaign.
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backscatter712 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-30-08 12:21 PM
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17. She's walking down the road to the next gas station with a jerry can again...
What happens when she gets there, tries to fill up, but her credit card is declined?
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Debi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-30-08 12:29 PM
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20. I wish she was paying by credit card
instead her campaign is writing IOUs and skipping out on her debts.
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backscatter712 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-30-08 12:34 PM
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23. or misusing her staffer's credit cards...
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greguganus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-30-08 12:33 PM
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22. There's always Ebay...oh wait..no one's buying her stuff on there either. n/t
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OzarkDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-30-08 12:34 PM
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24. Chicago news media - they love the GOP
and crooked Dems.
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kwenu Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-30-08 12:36 PM
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25. Why can't Hillary get her supporters to donate to her campaign? That's a bad sign.
:nopity:
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JayFredMuggs Donating Member (881 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-30-08 12:39 PM
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27. Duh maybe because
Edited on Sun Mar-30-08 12:39 PM by JayFredMuggs
There aren't that many with any money left over, and they really don't think she stands the chance of a snowball in Hades of getting the Dem nomination???? THAT would be MY guess.

Then there are all the lies she tells and what a mess her campaign is in financially??? That's my Second guess!
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cyndensco Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-30-08 02:04 PM
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34. They are probably hesitant to share their credit card number with her campaign...
..No telling how may unauthorized charges might appear...
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Lucky 13 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-30-08 01:55 PM
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33. Don't let them fool you. They are a lot smarter than they appear on DU.
They know Hill is done. Only a fool would throw more money down that black hole at this point.

What's more, I think probably many of her donors are maxed out for the primary. The campaign never expected it to go this far and planned VERY poorly.
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L0oniX Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-30-08 12:48 PM
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28. Kick
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dansolo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-30-08 01:10 PM
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31. When do the March fundraising numbers come out?
And when they are reported, will the MSM differentiate between what Hillary actually has on hand? In February, they touted her fundraising numbers, but never mentioned her large amount of debt, or the fact that a lot of the funds were only usable in the General election.
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Debi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-30-08 01:51 PM
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32. April 20th
The MSM is ignoring Clinton's debt - even doing that they cannot ignore Obama's fundraising advantage forever. Well, then again.....
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gateley Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-30-08 02:18 PM
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35. It's just so discouraging that these days, it takes
MILLIONS to run a presidential campaign.

More than anything, I think it would be money that would force out a candidate. It's always the money.
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Debi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-30-08 07:04 PM
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36. But some candidates honorably leave the campaign trail
when they realized they will be unable to raise the $$ it takes to compete. Others just go far far far into debt.
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Tarheel_Dem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-30-08 07:40 PM
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37. this is just sad, if she's forced from the race due to lack of funds....
that will be so embarrassing for her. I don't care how long she stays in, but I just find it sad that her campaign advisers have handled things so ineptly, and whether fair or not, some people draw connections to the way one runs a campaign, with the way they would run the government.
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