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madfloridian (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-29-08 07:54 PM Original message |
When it is time to give up a dream and exit, some do it more graciously than others. |
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surfermaw (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-29-08 07:57 PM Response to Original message |
1. Why doesn't Obama show us the gracious way to exit |
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madfloridian (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-29-08 08:00 PM Response to Reply #1 |
2. Yes, I forgot, only big big big states count. Forgive me. |
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JTFrog (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-29-08 08:13 PM Response to Reply #2 |
11. She is winning the biggest state of all. |
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madfloridian (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-29-08 08:14 PM Response to Reply #11 |
12. Wow, I missed that. |
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RiverStone (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-29-08 10:09 PM Response to Reply #11 |
23. Damn right |
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polpilot (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Mar-30-08 01:24 PM Response to Reply #23 |
62. Damn right. Obama & the rest of America have shown her the door. |
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Name removed (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-31-08 01:53 PM Response to Reply #62 |
75. Deleted sub-thread |
NJSecularist (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-29-08 08:03 PM Response to Reply #1 |
4. Says who? |
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FogerRox (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Mar-30-08 11:37 AM Response to Reply #4 |
50. Yes Obama will win NJ. |
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Johnny__Motown (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-29-08 08:07 PM Response to Reply #1 |
6. You believe California or New York will go to the repugs? Good, neither do I. |
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Yael (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-29-08 08:23 PM Response to Reply #1 |
15. And he is currently at 58.5 to her 41.5 in Texas |
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Diane R (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-29-08 10:03 PM Response to Reply #1 |
20. Why don't you tell us which big states count? Should the rest of us even bother to vote in November |
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scrucon (57 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-31-08 01:55 PM Response to Reply #20 |
76. Those states count that have the largest nos. of superdelegates. |
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Starbucks Anarchist (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-29-08 10:10 PM Response to Reply #1 |
24. Maybe he's too busy mopping your floors: |
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sniffa (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Mar-30-08 12:02 PM Response to Reply #24 |
56. Hopefully the Floor Moppers Union doesn't find out about this |
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StevieM (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Mar-30-08 12:20 AM Response to Reply #1 |
32. Obama is a very bad person IMO. His campaign is hateful and arrogant. And if Hillary is really |
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DerekJ (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Mar-30-08 05:21 AM Response to Reply #32 |
41. Show me how Obama was hateful, and get a pony :) |
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beachmom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-31-08 02:06 PM Response to Reply #32 |
78. The only hate that exists in the Obama's campaign is in your own mind. |
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scrucon (57 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-31-08 03:56 PM Response to Reply #32 |
82. I don't know that he is hateful, but he sure is arrogant. |
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Lucky 13 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Mar-30-08 12:41 AM Response to Reply #1 |
35. There seems to be some confusion... IT'S NOT THE NINETIES ANYMORE. |
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cali (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Mar-30-08 04:57 AM Response to Reply #1 |
40. because, genius, Obama is ahead by every metric |
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FogerRox (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Mar-30-08 11:36 AM Response to Reply #1 |
49. There are 5 stages to grief |
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sniffa (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Mar-30-08 12:05 PM Response to Reply #49 |
57. My take on it |
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FogerRox (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Mar-30-08 02:04 PM Response to Reply #57 |
64. Well said. |
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The River (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Mar-30-08 11:59 AM Response to Reply #1 |
55. Denial Trumps Logic In Camp Hillary |
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nichomachus (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Mar-30-08 01:27 PM Response to Reply #55 |
63. Maybe in 2004 |
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Raine (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-31-08 03:32 PM Response to Reply #1 |
80. Cause he's in first place |
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totodeinhere (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-31-08 03:47 PM Response to Reply #1 |
81. Your logic is totally flawed. |
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democrattotheend (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-29-08 08:01 PM Response to Original message |
3. Dean is a role model for whoever does not get the nomination |
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madfloridian (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Mar-30-08 12:28 AM Response to Reply #3 |
33. Good point. He never looked backwards. |
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NJSecularist (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-29-08 08:05 PM Response to Original message |
5. BTW, great post madfloridian. |
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madfloridian (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-29-08 08:08 PM Response to Reply #5 |
8. It's a hard decision. |
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SwampG8r (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-29-08 11:19 PM Response to Reply #8 |
30. im in florida too |
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EFerrari (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-29-08 08:07 PM Response to Original message |
7. The more I learn about Howard Dean, the more I respect him. |
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mopinko (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-29-08 08:17 PM Response to Reply #7 |
14. the money is drying up. |
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EFerrari (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-29-08 08:27 PM Response to Reply #14 |
16. I hope you're right, mo, on both counts. n/t |
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Diane R (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-29-08 10:06 PM Response to Reply #14 |
21. I don't think a lack of money will convince her...she just won't pay the bills. |
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EFerrari (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Mar-30-08 01:04 PM Response to Reply #21 |
59. That seems to be happening right now. |
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dansolo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Mar-30-08 01:22 PM Response to Reply #21 |
61. But the MSM will pick up on it |
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FogerRox (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Mar-30-08 11:38 AM Response to Reply #14 |
51. Death of a campaign...5 stages of grief |
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mopinko (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Mar-30-08 12:56 PM Response to Reply #51 |
58. denial- thanking the marching band. |
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singingbiscuit (103 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-31-08 03:06 PM Response to Reply #14 |
79. Nice R button! |
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moriah (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-29-08 08:10 PM Response to Original message |
9. k&r, even if I disagree on one thing... |
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madfloridian (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-29-08 08:13 PM Response to Reply #9 |
10. Sorry, but the states said NO to the redo. Dean told them to do it...they said no. |
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SwampG8r (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-29-08 11:21 PM Response to Reply #10 |
31. amen amen nm |
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Cha (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-29-08 08:16 PM Response to Original message |
13. Only leaders with vision would be able |
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hayu_lol (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-29-08 08:48 PM Response to Reply #13 |
17. Thanks Mad for another fine thread... |
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madfloridian (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-29-08 10:02 PM Response to Reply #17 |
19. Nice words. |
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AZBlue (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-29-08 08:51 PM Response to Original message |
18. Your first line says everything and then some: |
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FogerRox (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Mar-30-08 11:39 AM Response to Reply #18 |
52. 5 stages of grief |
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madfloridian (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Mar-30-08 11:53 AM Response to Reply #52 |
54. Nice post. |
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FogerRox (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Mar-30-08 02:07 PM Response to Reply #54 |
65. HEY ! ! , I'm in congressional mode here in NJ. Friday |
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madfloridian (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Mar-30-08 02:31 PM Response to Reply #65 |
66. Hey...keep up the good work! |
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FogerRox (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Mar-30-08 03:14 PM Response to Reply #66 |
67. Its good to have friends like you, thanks. :wink: |
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FogerRox (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Mar-30-08 04:09 PM Response to Reply #54 |
70. Made it an OP |
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madfloridian (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Mar-30-08 04:16 PM Response to Reply #70 |
71. Thanks, posted there. |
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ORDem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Mar-30-08 01:11 PM Response to Reply #52 |
60. You should make this a new thread. Excellent observations. n/t |
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FogerRox (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Mar-30-08 04:08 PM Response to Reply #60 |
69. OK |
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Zhade (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-29-08 10:08 PM Response to Original message |
22. "He said no one had that right to tell that to a candidate" - with respect to Dean, that's horseshit |
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madfloridian (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-29-08 10:20 PM Response to Reply #22 |
25. Could he and other Dem leaders be speaking out of respect for the past? |
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karynnj (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-29-08 10:25 PM Response to Original message |
26. Mad, in fairness - Dean's situation is nowhere near parallel to Clinton's |
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madfloridian (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-29-08 10:35 PM Response to Reply #26 |
27. Kerry was unstoppable from Iowa on. |
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karynnj (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-29-08 10:59 PM Response to Reply #27 |
28. I do see that - I just think it may be pre-mature |
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madfloridian (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-29-08 11:07 PM Response to Reply #28 |
29. That is EXACTLY what I posted. No one should be asked to get out. |
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karynnj (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Mar-30-08 10:24 AM Response to Reply #29 |
44. David Jones of the Monkees? |
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madfloridian (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Mar-30-08 11:29 AM Response to Reply #44 |
47. If you feel better rewriting history, I won't bother to argue. |
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bklyncowgirl (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Mar-30-08 07:21 AM Response to Reply #26 |
43. Dean could have gone third party--or simply sat out the election. |
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karynnj (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Mar-30-08 10:26 AM Response to Reply #43 |
45. I agree - he was one of the better surrogates out there for Kerry |
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davidpdx (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Mar-30-08 12:38 AM Response to Original message |
34. Dean and Gore both have something in common |
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madfloridian (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Mar-30-08 12:58 AM Response to Original message |
36. From Josh Marshall, very upsetting scenario. |
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madfloridian (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Mar-30-08 01:39 AM Response to Original message |
37. Dean did have things to say about the attacks. |
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Life Long Dem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Mar-30-08 03:16 AM Response to Original message |
38. Kick hint hint |
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cleveramerican (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Mar-30-08 04:53 AM Response to Original message |
39. As long as there is the slimmest chance of her winning it,..... |
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madfloridian (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Mar-30-08 11:21 AM Response to Reply #39 |
46. Actually people are seeing her true nature now. That's good for Obama |
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Political Heretic (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Mar-30-08 05:21 AM Response to Original message |
42. You're one of my favorite posters of all time. |
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madfloridian (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Mar-30-08 04:03 PM Response to Reply #42 |
68. But....I am told I hold the record for being on the most.... |
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Irishonly (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Mar-30-08 11:35 AM Response to Original message |
48. Dean Is A Great Man |
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madfloridian (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Mar-30-08 07:10 PM Response to Reply #48 |
72. He has shown great leadership even while having to duck for cover. |
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Kurovski (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Mar-30-08 11:47 AM Response to Original message |
53. K&R and thanks. (nt) |
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madfloridian (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Mar-30-08 07:18 PM Response to Original message |
73. I just watched Gore. So gracious about the court ruling in 2000. |
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madfloridian (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Mar-30-08 11:44 PM Response to Original message |
74. I'm not the only one who noticed the bloggers I mentioned. |
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Justitia (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-31-08 02:02 PM Response to Original message |
77. Dean enthusiastically endorsed Kerry, which made my admiration grow leaps & bounds. |
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Catherina (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-31-08 04:13 PM Response to Original message |
83. To the best queen bee ever, great post. n/t |
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madfloridian (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-31-08 04:26 PM Response to Reply #83 |
84. Heh heh you saw that, too? First time I was ever called that. |
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Catherina (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-31-08 05:02 PM Response to Reply #84 |
85. It was quite the compliment for how effective you are! |
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madfloridian (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-01-08 11:10 AM Response to Original message |
86. Hillary is spreading so much division and hatred. |
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