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RestoreGore (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-29-08 06:17 PM Original message |
Clinton and Obama Are Almost Identical On Contributions/Records |
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Skittles (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-29-08 06:18 PM Response to Original message |
1. imagine that |
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William769 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-29-08 06:27 PM Response to Reply #1 |
7. Ain't that the truth! |
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RestoreGore (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-29-08 06:28 PM Response to Reply #1 |
8. dupe n/t |
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ProSense (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-29-08 06:19 PM Response to Original message |
2. Obama doesn't take money from PACs or lobbyist! |
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RestoreGore (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-29-08 06:21 PM Response to Reply #2 |
3. I ONLY POSTED THIS ONCE |
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ProSense (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-29-08 06:22 PM Response to Reply #3 |
4. This link? You've posted the claim many times. n/t |
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RestoreGore (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-29-08 06:26 PM Response to Reply #4 |
5. I HARDLY POST HERE. I think you have your targets mixed up |
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ProSense (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-29-08 06:29 PM Response to Reply #5 |
10. Here, |
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BumRushDaShow (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-29-08 06:31 PM Response to Reply #10 |
13. LOL. Beat you by a minute! |
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RestoreGore (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-29-08 06:32 PM Response to Reply #10 |
15. Where do you think the chart in the OP comes from? |
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BumRushDaShow (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-29-08 06:36 PM Response to Reply #15 |
19. The OP linked to an article from November 2007. n/t |
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RestoreGore (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-29-08 06:44 PM Response to Reply #19 |
23. Wow, you're quick. Four months ago. Not that long ago. Your point? |
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BumRushDaShow (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-29-08 06:50 PM Response to Reply #23 |
26. The point is that since that time |
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RestoreGore (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-29-08 06:55 PM Response to Reply #26 |
28. Then provide what's missing |
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BumRushDaShow (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-29-08 06:57 PM Response to Reply #28 |
31. Stop being lazy and look through this thread. |
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RestoreGore (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-29-08 07:03 PM Response to Reply #31 |
35. Again it doesn't change that Clinton and Obama are virtually the same... |
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BumRushDaShow (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-29-08 07:09 PM Response to Reply #35 |
40. Why do you refuse to post the dollar amounts? |
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RestoreGore (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-29-08 07:16 PM Response to Reply #40 |
43. It's in the link in the OP. Why do you refuse to read it? |
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BumRushDaShow (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-29-08 07:31 PM Response to Reply #43 |
45. The dollar figures are NOW in this post but not in the OP for all to have seen originally. |
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RestoreGore (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-29-08 07:40 PM Response to Reply #45 |
48. Are you kidding me? |
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DerekJ (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-29-08 07:43 PM Response to Reply #48 |
50. See post number #25 |
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RestoreGore (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-29-08 07:53 PM Response to Reply #50 |
54. See the OP |
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DerekJ (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-29-08 08:02 PM Response to Reply #54 |
58. I am really about to doubt your intelligence, I already doubt your sincerity. |
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RestoreGore (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-29-08 10:49 PM Response to Reply #58 |
65. He had 1.3 million as of the chart I posted from only four months ago... |
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BumRushDaShow (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-29-08 07:59 PM Response to Reply #48 |
56. Downthread |
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ProSense (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-29-08 06:39 PM Response to Reply #15 |
20. It's false, it's been updated since Nov. 2007, probably to avoid misrepresentation of the data. n/t |
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RestoreGore (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-29-08 06:47 PM Response to Reply #20 |
24. What's false? I explained in the OP it was from 9/07... |
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ElsewheresDaughter (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-29-08 06:27 PM Response to Original message |
6. except Obama lies about his Lobbyists money |
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RestoreGore (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-29-08 06:30 PM Response to Reply #6 |
11. I think some fenagling of category descriptions is going on |
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BumRushDaShow (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-29-08 06:33 PM Response to Reply #11 |
16. Why don't you believe in the power of the internet and the masses? |
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RestoreGore (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-29-08 06:34 PM Response to Reply #16 |
18. Why are you trying to change the subject? |
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BumRushDaShow (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-29-08 06:55 PM Response to Reply #18 |
27. ??? You wrote |
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RestoreGore (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-29-08 07:57 PM Response to Reply #27 |
55. Working class people in a recession don't have money to give to campaigns in those amounts |
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BumRushDaShow (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-29-08 08:12 PM Response to Reply #55 |
59. Wow. Way to stereotype people. |
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RestoreGore (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-29-08 10:52 PM Response to Reply #59 |
66. Not to total over 50 million in one month. Unless CEOS are considered "individual" contributions |
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BumRushDaShow (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-29-08 06:28 PM Response to Original message |
9. Try some facts. |
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Andy823 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-29-08 06:31 PM Response to Reply #9 |
12. You beat me to it |
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BumRushDaShow (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-29-08 06:31 PM Response to Reply #12 |
14. It is a great site! n/t |
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RestoreGore (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-29-08 06:55 PM Response to Reply #14 |
29. It sure is |
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RestoreGore (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-29-08 06:34 PM Response to Reply #9 |
17. And? Still practically identical |
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BumRushDaShow (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-29-08 06:41 PM Response to Reply #17 |
22. Did you actually click on the links? |
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RestoreGore (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-29-08 06:56 PM Response to Reply #22 |
30. Did you read the OP where I noted it? |
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BumRushDaShow (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-29-08 07:01 PM Response to Reply #30 |
33. How many times have you edited the OP? |
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RestoreGore (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-29-08 07:07 PM Response to Reply #33 |
38. Why are you badgering me? |
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BumRushDaShow (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-29-08 07:11 PM Response to Reply #38 |
42. You made an argument |
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RestoreGore (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-29-08 07:21 PM Response to Reply #42 |
44. No, the data is in the link in the OP as was explained. You just refused to look at it |
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BumRushDaShow (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-29-08 07:37 PM Response to Reply #44 |
46. I am putting it on you because you managed to leave out data in your OP |
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RestoreGore (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-29-08 07:47 PM Response to Reply #46 |
52. I truly think you are confused |
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BumRushDaShow (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-29-08 08:19 PM Response to Reply #52 |
60. No you are confused. |
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Garbo 2004 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-29-08 06:40 PM Response to Original message |
21. Those figures are Fed career totals. 2008 Presidential campaign info here: |
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anonymous171 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-29-08 06:49 PM Response to Reply #21 |
25. *******HERE WE GO*******: |
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RestoreGore (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-29-08 06:59 PM Response to Reply #25 |
32. I know. It's been posted already. |
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OnceUponTimeOnTheNet (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-29-08 07:06 PM Response to Reply #32 |
37. I have found your posts juxtapositioned with your Gore name, Offensive for months. |
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RestoreGore (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-29-08 07:09 PM Response to Reply #37 |
39. Bye. |
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DerekJ (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-29-08 07:47 PM Response to Reply #32 |
51. It does everything to negate the figures you are talking about. |
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maximusveritas (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-29-08 07:02 PM Response to Original message |
34. Progressive Punch takes into account missed votes |
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RestoreGore (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-29-08 07:10 PM Response to Reply #34 |
41. Missed votes should be taken into account |
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RazBerryBeret (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-29-08 07:05 PM Response to Original message |
36. if by "Identical" you mean |
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Marie26 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-29-08 07:38 PM Response to Original message |
47. Exactly |
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DerekJ (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-29-08 07:41 PM Response to Reply #47 |
49. See post number 25. |
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RestoreGore (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-29-08 07:49 PM Response to Reply #47 |
53. I think so too. |
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BumRushDaShow (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-29-08 08:01 PM Response to Reply #47 |
57. There is a big difference but the scotoma is par for the course. n/t |
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Marie26 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-29-08 08:28 PM Response to Reply #57 |
61. Scotoma? |
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BumRushDaShow (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-29-08 08:32 PM Response to Reply #61 |
62. See the difference in the FEC reports linked. |
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Marie26 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-29-08 08:42 PM Response to Reply #62 |
63. That's misleading |
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BumRushDaShow (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-29-08 08:58 PM Response to Reply #63 |
64. Data from 2006. Hello? It's 2008. |
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Marie26 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Mar-30-08 10:23 AM Response to Reply #64 |
71. Because it's a PAC |
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RestoreGore (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-29-08 10:56 PM Response to Reply #63 |
67. Is this the PAC used to support Superdelegates? |
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DerekJ (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-29-08 11:08 PM Response to Reply #67 |
69. I no longer have any doubts about it, you are a Moron. |
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RestoreGore (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Mar-30-08 09:34 AM Response to Reply #69 |
70. And you are illiterate |
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RestoreGore (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-29-08 11:00 PM Response to Reply #61 |
68. Scotoma: The mind sees what it chooses to see |
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