***** BURNT ORANGE REPORT: Texas Caucus Results (UPDATING LIVE)

[quantass]

A bit surprised why the current threads on here haven't been updating as quickly so i figured i'd give a link to Burnt Orange Reports live updates to the caucuses

http://burntorangereport.com/showDiary.do?diaryId=5484

[K Gardner]

1. Thank you ! I keep checking back and seeing nothing. I bet its chaos there, tho !

[CoffeeCat]

2. Thank you!

Appreciate you posting this!

We should see results coming in soon.

[TAWS]

3. He is winning in counties that heavily supported Clinton in primary, good sign

[dkf]

6. These were the primary numbers. So the caucus numbers look really good!

San Augustine
Hillary 53
Obama 35

Moore
Hillary 64
Obama 33

Edwards
Hillary 55
Obama 41

[helderheid]

4. k&r!

[rainbow4321]

5. K&R n/t

[gateley]

7. Somebody remind me...

Was TX originally believed to be a Hillary or an Obama State?

And, after the Texas Two Step (which I thought was the end of it :7), who "won"?

Primaries Overload for my tiny 'lil brain -- Thanks!! :hi:

[SoCalDem]

12. Supposedly it was a Hillary state, but in the run-up to the primary

it looked like HE would win.. Right about that time is when Rush started his lilttle campaign, and HRC ended up winning with surprising numbers of republicans supporting her..:eyes:

Regardless of who "won", he came out of it with more delegates..

[gateley]

15. Thanks --

so what the hell is going on today? If the delegates have been awarded...

Could the states make it any more confusing for the people? :eyes:

EDIT to add - it's all confusing to ME, anyway. And to my niece in WA State where she thought her vote counted, but it didn't unless she caucused.

[SoCalDem]

18. Texas has a three step process

primary (most delegates)
prima-caucus ..same day but open only to people who voted in primary..(a few more delegates)
and the ones awarded today are to another convention *Texas...in June :eyes:

[gateley]

20. I'm exhausted after just READING about it!

Texas deserves its reputation of doing things in a BIG way! :7

[VolcanoJen]

39. Rush now sells t-shirts and hats on his site, for those who were so proud....

... to crossover and vote for Hillary in Ohio and Texas. :eyes:

[jgraz]

17. Everything was originally a Hillary state

Then the campaign started.

[IDemo]

23. The State of Imagination is still hangin' in there for her!

[helderheid]

8. someone put this on the greatest page

[City Lights]

9. Off it goes...

:-)

[panader0]

11. OK fifth rec!

[MadBadger]

10. Says Obama may not have met the threshold in Webb County and that Hillary could take all 51 dels.

[dkf]

16. Yuck.

[cliffordu]

13. Train wreck.....Recc'd

:patriot:

[rucky]

14. This is like reading Chinese. n/t

[mrJJ]

19. update

Collin County is holding its county convention tomorrow, Sunday, the 30th; ALL other counties & districts are today

Update 1, 1:11 p.m. CDT: FIRST NUMBERS IN! Burnt Orange Report is reporting that, with 1.06% of conventions reporting, Obama leads 25 state delegates to 23, or 52.08% to 47.92%.

Note that, though it's true that 1.06% (3 of 284) of the conventions have reported in, the 48 state delegates recorded at present constitute only 0.63% of the vote--that is, 0.63% of the 7,649 delegates who will be representing Texas Democrats at the state convention.

[mrJJ]

21. Daily Kos also posting

Daily Kos posting results based on BOR reports also. Its going to be a lonnng night.

http://www.dailykos.com/storyonly/2008/3/29/11939/0672

[Forkboy]

22. I don't need that as I'm sure supporters on both sides will give us a fair, unbiased rundown later.

:evilgrin:

[VolcanoJen]

24. Ouch!!!! What happened in Webb County?

1:50pm Update by David - Clinton has swept Webb County 51-0.

[MadBadger]

25. Obama didnt meet the threshold, but what is the threshold?

he lost 89%-11% says CNN on the day of the caucus.

[CoffeeCat]

27. In Iowa, the threshold at our

County Convention was 15 percent.

I'm not sure it Texas is the same as Iowa, but it appears that way.

Wow, what is so interesting about Web County? What the demographics
in that part of Texas?

[TexasLady]

29. the southern tip

[VolcanoJen]

28. I'm guessing the threshold is the "party standard" of 15%?

If she really did win that big in that county, I guess we shouldn't be surprised that Obama delegates couldn't reach viability.

[WolverineDG]

58. Missed it by 9

BUT 80% of our delegates & alternates showed up. :woohoo: And even more supporters showed up to observe. :yourock:

dg

[slinkerwink]

37. Webb Count y is Clinton country

[WolverineDG]

59. Actually it's crooked political machine country

They supported Bush's 2nd run for governor over Gary Mauro & gave us two terms of George the W.

dg

[Zhade]

100. Ah, so they were just supporting the conservative "Dem".

Makes sense now.

[WolverineDG]

57. Lots of dirty tricks

Can't say much more than that, but there were a lot of dirty tricks played on the floor. How badly? The state party has already called the county chair on the carpet for it, that's what.

dg

[MelissaB]

26. Just clicked refresh

Clinton Delegates 114 72.61%
Obama Delegates 43 27.39%

with 4.5% in

[Upton]

30. So what's going on

are these just Clinton counties reporting so far or what?

[dkf]

31. Look at this...

In Ector County, where the precint caucus results were C 55, O 45, Clinton has picked up 10 delegates to 5 for Obama.

I don't get how a 55-45 split gets a 10-5 delegate split.

[CoffeeCat]

32. Regarding Texas....

Does anyone know what the final Texas caucus result was????

I might have missed something, but I don't recall Texas ever giving us
a final count.

Was there a FINAL Texas delegate number that combined the results of the
Texas primary and the Texas caucus?

[dkf]

33. I believe they stopped counting.

[Upton]

at 41%

[dkf]

35. Partial counts per DKos

SD ODels (%) CDels (%) OGAP* %VIn**
1 475 (62.8%) 281 (37.2%) +21.3% 28.4%
2 800 (66.8%) 398 (33.2%) +16.5% 43.1%
3 339 (52.8%) 303 (47.2%) +15.8% 24.2%
4 594 (60.0%) 396 (40.0%) +14.3% 40.1%
5 921 (60.2%) 609 (39.8%) +8.6% 49.4%
6 308 (47.0%) 348 (53.0%) +11.4% 36.9%
7 648 (61.0%) 415 (39.0%) +7.1% 48.4%
8 1,203 (63.5%) 693 (36.5%) +7.9% 62.8%
9 787 (67.0%) 388 (33.0%) +9.9% 53.0%
10 1,163 (64.6%) 638 (35.4%) +6.7% 47.3%
11 645 (58.6%) 455 (41.4%) +11.8% 38.5%
12 847 (54.0%) 721 (46.0%) +5.6% 54.5%
13 1,502 (79.6%) 383 (20.3%) +6.1% 40.8%
14 2,873 (67.4%) 1,389 (32.6%) +3.9% 78.0%
15 617 (68.4%) 285 (31.6%) +6.1% 33.0%
16 1,119 (60.5%) 732 (39.5%) +7.5% 60.4%
17 860 (61.7%) 535 (38.3%) +7.2% 46.0%
18 762 (56.2%) 594 (43.8%) +8.9% 44.1%
19 434 (32.6%) 897 (67.4%) -4.5% 48.7%
20 205 (19.1%) 867 (80.9%) -11.2% 44.0%
21 352 (27.5%) 928 (72.5%) -2.7% 47.0%
22 592 (50.9%) 571 (49.1%) +7.9% 44.2%
23 1,806 (80.7%) 431 (19.3%) +7.8% 49.9%
24 560 (56.1%) 439 (43.9%) +9.3% 45.9%
25 1,565 (57.4%) 1,160 (42.6%) +2.7% 65.0%
26 481 (35.4%) 878 (64.6%) -2.6% 53.7%
27 80 (19.4%) 333 (80.6%) -9.5% 23.6%
28 337 (36.4%) 590 (63.6%) -2.9% 43.1%
29 332 (25.3%) 981 (74.7%) -4.7% 62.2%
30 533 (42.1%) 734 (57.9%) +4.5% 52.2%
31 178 (41.8%) 248 (58.2%) +2.7% 32.2%
Tot 23,918 (56.2%) 18,620 (43.8%) +8.0% 48.3%

http://www.dailykos.com/story/2008/3/29/11939/0672/639/486522

[housewolf]

64. They stopped reporting, not counting

By law, the counts were required to be completed today.

[rainbow4321]

74. No, they stopped a caucus # public tally a few weeks ago

They tried to put out in the media the running tally but then I think it kinda got overwhelming so they just said it would have to wait til March 29th. Think the highest "percent reporting" stat I saw was around 40% with Obama in the lead.

[quantass]

34. DELETED

[dkf]

41. I think these are the old numbers from election day.

They look awfully similar to the ones posted at DKOS.

And this is at the top:


The Texas Democratic Party is no longer updating the unofficial results from the precinct conventions. We are now shifting our efforts to collecting the official results from the precinct conventions to make sure they are available at Senatorial District/County Conventions on March 29, where delegates will be elected to the State Convention. Ultimately, those state conventions delegates will determine the allocation of 67 national delegates.

[quantass]

45. My Mistake...I will delete the post now -- THANK YOU!

You are correct

[VolcanoJen]

36. Police dispatched to District 23

http://trailblazersblog.dallasnews.com/archives/2008/03/district-23-police-sent-to-cre.html

District 23: Police sent to credentials committee
12:48 PM Sat, Mar 29, 2008 | Permalink
Gromer Jeffers Jr. E-mail News tips

Exra police were sent to the second floor of Hulcy Middle School, where delegate credentials are being verified.

Potential delegates have stood in line since early morning. Tempers are beginning to explode.

The credentials committee is meeting on the first floor of the middle school. The verification process is going down on the second floor. The process could take a few more hours and the convention won't start in earnest until all of the delegates have been seated. Thousands of people are waiting for verification.

No arrests have been made.

[Patsy Stone]

89. self delete

wrong place.

[Name removed]

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[CoffeeCat]

42. Look at the heavily populated counties...

I'm not very versed on Texas demographic, but if you look at some of the more
populated areas, Obama has done well.

Tarrant County--- (6851 delegates)
--Obama 60%
--Clinton 39%

Travis County---(6780 delegates)
--Obama 66%
--Clinton 33%

Clinton seems to do well in the rural areas, and Obama in the urban areas.

[dbonds]

43. Check out Dallis and Harris

[dkf]

44. I think these are old too. Sorry.

The Texas Democratic Party is no longer updating the unofficial results from the precinct conventions. We are now shifting our efforts to collecting the official results from the precinct conventions to make sure they are available at Senatorial District/County Conventions on March 29, where delegates will be elected to the State Convention. Ultimately, those state conventions delegates will determine the allocation of 67 national delegates.

[TexasLady]

40. C 132 O 85 6 % reporting

[PetraPooh]

46. Okay, I'm a bit confused about their reporting system.

Apparently anyone who might have the lists could simply go online to Burnt Orange, claim to be an appropriate delegate and put in whatever you want. I think that this system leaves me with no confidence in this live reporting system. Please tell me that there will be some other official report that assures the accuracy of the caucuses.

[quantass]

47. Good point...just take it with a grain of salt until we get REAL word outside Burnt

[PetraPooh]

48. Where and when will those be posted? The tables on DailyKos seems to be

referencing the original delegate count from primary day, and then the burnt orange report. So when will the "real" results be posted and who is responsible for validating those results?

[quantass]

50. Wish i knew...i will keep my eyes pealed and let you know.

[PetraPooh]

56. Heres a txdemocrats.org link, but I don't see any totals, just by district or by county

http://precinctconventionresults.txdemocrats.org/election08#c_177

[TexasLady]

49. getting a wee bit closer

Clinton 177 59%
Obama 119 40%
7.39 percent reporting.

2:58pm Update by Michael - (Clinton-Obama): Palo Pinto (8-1) and Smith SD1 (4-20).

[adoraz]

51. yeah and thats the percent of conventions reporting

the percent of delegates in is 3.87%, so really its not very much.

Once places like Austin/Dallas come in, the numbers should change a lot.

[mountainvue]

52. Hillary still out front 60-40. n/t

[malik flavors]

53. 53.7% Obama 46.2% Clinton

[TexasLady]

54. 262 Clinton Obama 305 Thanks Harris County!

3:50pm Update by Phil - Harris County, Senate District 15 just reported. Huge for Obama -- of the 1,431 in attendance, 1,056 for Obama, and 375 for Clinton. With 217 delegates to split, that means Obama got 160 to 57 over Clinton in Harris County, SD 15.

[powergirl]

60. Harris County Rocks

I'm originally from there. I live in Collin County now.

:headbang:

[Drunken Irishman]

55. Obama 371, Clinton 307.

[powergirl]

61. Collin County - Obama country - meets TOMORROW

We had a good problem. Because SO MANY DEMOCRATS voted in the primary, we could not find a venue large enough to accommodate the 3,000 plus to attend. So, we had to have our county caucus/convention tomorrow. So, just know, it is a big county, with A LOT of delegates and the entire county went for Obama in the primary by about 10 points. Those will be delegates added ON TOP of those determined today.

:hi:

[caseycoon]

62. Obama 397 Clinton 331 n/t

[sniffa]

63. O: 419 C: 369

[gateley]

65. This is pretty amazing --

When they first began reporting, it looked like Obama was getting spanked.

[OzarkDem]

66. C: 482 O:477

[caseycoon]

67. C 510 O 508

[caseycoon]

68. C 574 O 586

[DerekJ]

69. The rural areas report quicker, so just wait. The numbers will go up

[sniffa]

70. Is this just for the Caucus results, or is it for the Primacaucus results?

:shrug:

[americanstranger]

71. I think this is the combined tally.

For the actual delegates that will be sent to the convention.

- as

[Laura PourMeADrink]

72. Cluster F%#k in Fort Worth

http://www.texasobserver.org/blog/index.php/2008/03/29/mass-confusion-at-fort-worth-convention/

Mass Confusion at Fort Worth Convention
March 29th, 2008 at 3:57 pm
Things aren’t exactly running smoothly at today’s convention for Democratic delegates in Tarrant County’s Senate District 10.

The convention is being held in the rodeo arena at the Will Rogers Coliseum in downtown Fort Worth. Nearly 4,000 Democrats have piled into the stands rimming the dirt rodeo floor. The setting seems rather appropriate: party officials and convention volunteers — in bopping around trying to deal with a dizzying number of problems — remind one of bull riders holding on for dear life.

The convention — the second in a three-step process to select the remaining 67 delegates in the Democratic Party presidential primary-caucus hybrid — was supposed to begin at 9:30 this morning. As of 1:30, the actual convention still hadn’t started, and frustrated delegates were wedged into a narrow hallway still trying to sign in.

The breakdowns are almost too numerous to list. The first major issue was limited parking. The Will Rogers complex is also hosting a horse show and a gun show today. So Democratic delegates in Volvos with Hillary and Obama bumper stickers had to compete for parking spaces with heavy duty pickups with gun racks.

Once inside, delegates waited all morning listening to time-killing speeches while the credentials committee tried to sort through the various logistical messes and some of the delegate challenges. As we reported yesterday, Tarrant County party officials have been struggling with their delegate list all week. Senate District 10 has hundreds of delegates more than it should. The challenge was compiling an accurate list of delegates. There seems to have been major confusion about whether local officials or the state party would create the delegate list used to check people when they sign in.

County Party Chair Art Brender said the list he got from the state party was unusable — it mistakenly listed many Clinton supporters for Obama and vice-versa. After that list was tossed, local officials have been organizing on the fly. The results have been predictable: delegates unable to sign in because their names aren’t on the list or their paperwork is missing, and, for some precincts, sign-in lists disappeared and had to be redone.

In the arena’s front hallway, delegates crowded together, waiting to sign in at make-shift tables. No one seemed to know what was going on.

By mid-morning, hours after the convention was supposed to start, Brender sat at a table in the frenetic, cacophonous hallway discussing the problems, hoping the sign in would begin soon. Before he could explain to the Observer what was happening, he was told that some tables had started signing in delegates from certain precincts prematurely (and without convention credentials to hand out) and wouldn’t stop when asked. “OK,” Brender sighed and was off to deal wit that issue. Brender is retiring as county party chair in two months. On this day, that probably can’t come soon enough.

The palpable excitement among delegates this morning at the sight of such a large gathering of Democrats — perhaps the biggest in Tarrant County in decades — was soon replaced by growing anger and frustration.

In a back room on the arena’s second floor, the credentials committee members (all volunteers) dashed around, stacks of paper in hand, trying to answer questions from many first-time delegates and solve one mini-problem after another. Eventually, a make-shift table was set up in the hall outside the credential committee room to catalog complaints and challenges. Delegates soon crowded the hall and pressed against the table.

The biggest challenge was generating an accurate list of delegates so each precinct could sign in. The sign-in is the most important aspect of the convention because the percentages of Obama and Clinton supporters who sign in will determine the number of delegates each candidate sends to the state convention in June (the third and final step in the process).

The sign in finally began at 11:30 and is expected to continue for hours. Meanwhile, party leaders and elected officials pleaded with delegates not to leave. By mid-afternoon, it appeared that many were sticking it out.

Ain’t democracy grand?

“This is embarrassing,” said one frustrated Obama delegate. “This is embarrassing for Tarrant County.”

[tammywammy]

73. I was there!

:crazy: I posted my personal experience in Crispini's thread.

[quantass]

75. wow

[kerry-is-my-prez]

77. wow - a gun show and a dem caucus

n/t

[tammywammy]

82. It was funny

When you pulled in there were all these signs for the gun show. LOL. I parked right by the entrance for the gun show, the democrats were down at the other end.

[caseycoon]

76. C 832 O 865

[sniffa]

78. O: 1311 C: 1080

With 26.06% reporting at 8:08 p.m.

And again, if anyone can answer definitively, is today just for the Caucus results, of for the entire Primacaucus results?

[eleny]

80. .

:-D

[eleny]

79. C 1,080 O 1,311

[DerekJ]

81. O: 1,311 (54.83%) C:1,080 (45.17%)

[backscatter712]

84. NICE!

[featherman]

83. Travis is in with the expected Obama margin

Bigger counties still to be heard from more completely:

Tarrant, Harris, Dallas, Denton, Jefferson, Williamson should all be Obama

El Paso and Hidalgo should come in for Clinton

[flowomo]

85. ooops... I think the site crashed at about 8:20...

hope they get back up soon!

[featherman]

86. Yeah we crashed it... they said early not to just park and refresh

like I've been doing. Expect they'll get it up and running. They were expecting this.

[LiveLiberally]

87. The site is up again. I am truly impressed with their IT team. /nt

[60TrenchesGone]

88. Obama 1610 Clinton 1138

Another Harris comes through at 272-52 for Obama.

Overall Obama's leading 1610 to 1138.

[Patsy Stone]

90. C: 1160 (41.6%) / O: 1629 (58%) -- 8:01 CST -- 28% of conventions reporting n/t

[eleny]

91. his lead took a jump

[Patsy Stone]

93. Travis County (313 for Obama, 144 for Clinton.)

Some of Harris and some of Dallas recently reported, but there hasn't been a new update for 30 minutes.

[Johnny__Motown]

92. 30% reporting now 45-57 split

[Patsy Stone]

94. 8:33 p.m. CST: Clinton: 1240 (42.52%) Obama: 1676 (57.48%)

38.19% of delegates
30.28% of conventions (85 of 284)

[writes3000]

95. Those numbers add up to 102%. Your Clinton number is too high. n/t

[DerekJ]

96. You mean 42.5 - 57.5 :)

[Upton]

97. Is this going about as expected so far?

[grantcart]

101. this is what I expected --- you have to reduce it to 50% to read it

http://query.nytimes.com/mem/archive-free/pdf?_r=1&res=9D00E3DE1538E233A2575AC2A9639C94639ED7CF&oref=slogin

[grantcart]

98. 58% Obama with 30% in

[JackORoses]

99. Obama at 58% with ~40% in

Looks like this might be a better night than previously thought.

Let's go for 60!

[DerekJ]

102. kick

K & R

[loveangelc]

103. How many delegates are up for grabs at the caucuses and how many could either net?

[Upton]

104. 67 are up for grabs

I've seen projections where Obama should win anywhere from 37-39.

[loveangelc]

106. he could NET 37-39????????

[Upton]

107. Projection right now is 38-29 a net gain of 9 for Obama

which is just fine because it will mean, in terms of delegates, he will have won Texas.

http://demconwatch.blogspot.com/2008/03/texas-state-convention-day.html

[grantcart]

105. CNN originally had Obama at 38 so any increase on that will be significant

but the total number of delegates will confirm Obama's Texas victory.

[JMDEM]

108. K & R to keep up high. nt

[thevoiceofreason]

109. K&R

[thevoiceofreason]

110. Barack down to 56.25% - But all Hillary's good districts are in

Barack still has Tarrant and Houston 7th, all of which should be great.

[Major Hogwash]

114. Only 56.25%!

Hee hee hee.

[Hamlette]

111. kick

[thevoiceofreason]

112. K&R

[quantass]

113. Is Burnt Report still sleeping his ass off...should be updated before noon

[thevoiceofreason]

115. He is - apparently

What a great servic he provided last night - miles ahead of the competition.

[NDambi]

116. kick and kickin' ass!!!!

[alteredstate]

117. kick!

[City Lights]

118. kick

:kick:

[TexasLady]

119. here's lastest numbers

Clinton Delegates 44.01%

Obama Delegates 55.99%

[quantass]

120. Update -- O:56% C:44%

86% in....Collin still yet to report in (the last of the big counties -- favored for Obama big time).