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wheresthemind Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-18-04 09:52 PM
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Kentucky, Arkansas, and Oregon primary results HERE!
Missing that election excitment I got so used to, so here we go...

Heres to hopin Dennis Picks up some delegates!

http://www.thegreenpapers.com/P04/events.phtml?format=chronological

Arkansas
Counties Reporting:
8 of 75 - 11%
Lyndon H. LaRouche, Jr. (Democrat)
1,052
5%
John F. Kerry (Democrat)
14,287
64%
Dennis J. Kucinich (Democrat)
1,146
5%
Uncommitted (Democrat)
5,985
27%

Kentucky
99.7% of the precincts reporting

Kerry, John F.
138,130   60.1%

Edwards, John
33,256   14.5%

Uncommitted
21,187    9.2%

Lieberman, Joe
11,063    4.8%

Dean, Howard
8,221    3.6%

Clark, Wesley K.
6,515    2.8%

Sharpton, Alfred C. "Al"
5,013    2.2%

Kucinich, Dennis J.
4,506    2.0%

LaRouche, Lyndon H., Jr.
1,815    0.8%

Oregon
0% reporting

Kerry, John F.

Kucinich, Dennis J.

LaRouche, Lyndon H., Jr.
 
 
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Doosh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-18-04 09:56 PM
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1. Edwards did well in Kentucky
for a guy who's been out of the race for a few months, 33,256 votes is pretty good. I think the people there might've been voting for there VP.
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WI_DEM Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-18-04 10:25 PM
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4. yep almost enough to qualify for delegates
maybe he did in some CD. As a Dean fan I'm also happy that Dean still was able to get 4% in Kentucky--a state which one wouldn't consider one of his strongest.
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AP Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-18-04 10:45 PM
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7. Damn. He never gets the friendly bounce. Still, that's great.
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Lydia Leftcoast Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-18-04 10:07 PM
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2. It's now just shortly after 8PM in Oregon so
all the ballots should be in.

Here's hoping for a good showing for Dennis!
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WI_DEM Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-18-04 10:26 PM
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5. looks like DK will get some delegates
if projections of him attaining 16% statewide are true.
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WI_DEM Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-18-04 10:24 PM
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3. was Clark on ballot in Arkansas?
just wondering if he still was on ballot since it is his homestate how well he did there.
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JI7 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-18-04 10:32 PM
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6. no he wasn't
i think only kerry, kucinich, and larouche were on it.
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sandnsea Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-18-04 11:23 PM
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8. Oregon, Kerry 82%
Dennis 15%. Dennis visited every single city in the state, even mine. He had a chance to get his message out there, and one more time, the voters said no. Now, can we put all this silliness to rest that if only a particular candidate had a fair chance, bla, bla, bla. Kucinich wasn't even running against any other candidates, like in the other early states, and he still only got 15%. The people don't want a far-left candidate, that's just the way it is.
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wheresthemind Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-19-04 06:07 AM
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10. I think the way Kerry swooped in with Dean...
this week was kinda sleezy. I bet Dennis would have done a lot better had it not been for that.
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sandnsea Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-19-04 12:27 PM
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12. Oh puhleeze
Can the damned whining stop already. Kerry has been to Oregon ONCE. Let me repeat, ONCE. Kucinich has been all over the state for a month now and I've read of his visits or seen them announced on TV almost every day. Every single person in the state has had the opportunity to meet him, question him, visit with him. The voters have spoken and it's time for some people to accept that the country does not want a far left agenda. We have a choice to move forward on liberal issues, or have Bush destroy 100 years of progress. That's the choice and if people really care about their fellow citizens, they'll accept that reality and vote accordingly.
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no name no slogan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-19-04 12:54 PM
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13. Um, that's probably not a good way to draw in DK/peace people
Thankfully your post is not representative of how we've been treated by Kerry's people. They have been very welcoming, and are interested in what we have to say, because they know that they cannot win without us, and the influence we have on potential Nader voters.

And please, can we stop the "far-left" tar-and-feathering already? For the most part, Dennis's positions are those that have historically been part of our party's heritage and platform. If voters only voted on issues alone, it's quite likely Dennis would be the nominee right now.

I would hardly say that Dennis 15% of the vote in Oregon is "nothing". In my state, he got 18%-- which is only 3% more. However, we've found as we've gone "up the chain" to our county, congressional district and state convention, that we have much more support and influence than our 18% shows-- especially now as Dennis is proven right time and time again on the issues facing this country.

Congratulations to Kerry and (most of) his supporters.
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sandnsea Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-19-04 01:43 PM
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14. I have a different view
I am a realist. I don't think it helps the Democratic Party or the Kerry campaign to have Kucinich and Nader people continuing to make unsubstantiated claims against the Democratic Party. I don't think it helps to not challenge Kucinich and Nader's platforms. I don't think it helps to allow people to continue to believe "If voters only voted on issues alone, it's quite likely Dennis would be the nominee right now" or "Dennis is proven right time and time again on the issues facing this country".

The vote proves, time and time again, that neither of these statements are correct. Oregon, one of the most liberal states in the country, had the opportunity to choose Kucinich. No other candidates in the race, little Kerry campaigning, an uncluttered field and opportunity to get his message out. One more time, Democrats chose a Democrat. That's where America is.

Health care is more complicated than single payer. France, rated #1 in health care in the world, does not have a single payer plan. Dennis didn't even introduce legislation to repeal the entire Patriot Act, his own actions go against his words. Dennis believed inspectors needed to go back into Iraq, he just never had a plan on how to get there.

Just like the gaps in his "bring the troops home" plan. He cites these goals, for example.

"The UN must be asked to help the Iraqi people develop a Constitution. The UN must assist in developing free and fair elections."

"The United Nations, through its member nations, will commit 130,000 peacekeepers to Iraq on a temporary basis until the Iraqi people can maintain their own security."

Are elections and an Iraqi security force an absolute necessity for regional and world stability? Is this more important than U.S. troops leaving, or are removing the troops more important than what happens to Iraq? He doesn't say.

Which countries does he think will have enough troops to make up the 130,000 peacekeepers? Considering all that is going on now, is 130,000 still enough? If the UN won't commit peacekeepers, then what?

Dennis, like Nader, never has to answer the tough questions.

I'm a realist. If either Dennis or Nader seriously want to be President, they and their supporters have to answer the tough questions. And, for the benefit of this election year, the truth about their positions have to be dissected and analyzed and discussed. Because the Democratic Party can't afford to have the campaign rhetoric these two are running on continue to delude one single voter. There are serious problems with Kucinich and Nader policies, and I have to say it, serious distortions. It will not help the Democratic Party for these distortions to continue to be repeated after the convention. Nothing Dennis is campaigning on is going to make it onto the Democratic Platform. Until his supporters understand the reasons why, I'm afraid they'll be so disillusioned by the process that they'll bolt and never come back.

And if it means stepping on some toes to keep that from happening, then I'll step. There's just way too much at stake for me not to tell the truth as I see it. And I recognize that it's as I see it and I'm not the only person in the world with a point of view.



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sandnsea Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-18-04 11:30 PM
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9. OR voter turnout
222,000 Dem votes for Pres; 171,000 Bush votes. They had a Senate race and some other important positions on the ballot, they had as much reason to turn out as we did. Hope this holds for November!
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Lydia Leftcoast Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-19-04 10:02 AM
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11. Yes, I checked the website of one of the Portland TV stations
and there was everything from presidential primaries to state legislature primaries to a new swimming pool for one of the suburbs on that ballot.
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