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pathansen (696 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Mar-28-08 04:17 PM Original message |
Obama’s Records as State Senator Are MIssing - Obama not disclosing them |
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anonymous171 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Mar-28-08 04:18 PM Response to Original message |
1. Unfortunately, Hillary must release her tax returns before Obama does anything. |
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pathansen (696 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Mar-28-08 04:22 PM Response to Reply #1 |
2. How come? She has already released her records. |
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anonymous171 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Mar-28-08 04:23 PM Response to Reply #2 |
5. Nope. Tax returns before all else. |
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ElsewheresDaughter (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Mar-28-08 04:29 PM Response to Reply #5 |
15. and you are who to make such a demand? |
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anonymous171 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Mar-28-08 04:41 PM Response to Reply #15 |
27. A voter who wants transparency. |
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pathansen (696 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Mar-28-08 07:02 PM Response to Reply #27 |
54. Quit trying to spin everything around! Hillary already released 11,000 pages of documents |
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anonymous171 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Mar-28-08 07:04 PM Response to Reply #54 |
55. LOL! It's not amount of pages, but the date they're from. |
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Melinda (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Mar-28-08 07:12 PM Response to Reply #54 |
57. No, she did not. Those 11k of WH records pages were released only after lawsuit was filed |
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pathansen (696 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Mar-28-08 07:20 PM Response to Reply #57 |
58. I never claimed she released them voluntarily - Read what I said |
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Melinda (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Mar-28-08 07:56 PM Response to Reply #58 |
63. Hillary didn't release anything; the archives did. And the issue is her tax returns. |
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pathansen (696 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Mar-28-08 08:03 PM Response to Reply #63 |
64. 20 years of Hillarys tax records and hundreds of thousands of pages of docs have been released |
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WillYourVoteBCounted (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Mar-28-08 10:42 PM Response to Reply #64 |
70. Need Hillary's 2000-2007 tax returns, after she got rich |
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MADem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Mar-28-08 04:31 PM Response to Reply #5 |
19. Obama has said he's not releasing his records, though--he's not "transparent." |
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anamandujano (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-29-08 09:04 AM Response to Reply #19 |
75. His hypocrisy knows no bounds. |
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krawhitham (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Mar-28-08 06:06 PM Response to Reply #2 |
52. She did?, can I get a link to her earmarks? |
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pathansen (696 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Mar-28-08 07:21 PM Response to Reply #52 |
59. check out her website |
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SwampG8r (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Mar-30-08 09:43 AM Response to Reply #2 |
79. thanks you won me 5 bucks |
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UALRBSofL (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Mar-28-08 04:22 PM Response to Reply #1 |
3. I would bet the farm the records will be found |
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MADem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Mar-28-08 04:23 PM Response to Reply #3 |
7. I'll bet he burned 'em in his big back yard. Pooooooof! nt |
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Tribetime (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Mar-28-08 04:31 PM Response to Reply #3 |
20. roves in hot water himself right now |
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msallied (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Mar-28-08 04:59 PM Response to Reply #3 |
40. Yay! Root for Karl Rove! |
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pathansen (696 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Mar-28-08 07:32 PM Response to Reply #1 |
61. Over 20 years of Hillary Clinton’s tax returns have been previously released |
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scheming daemons (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-29-08 09:00 AM Response to Reply #61 |
73. Sorry... no tax returns have been released for THIS decade.... |
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MADem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Mar-28-08 04:22 PM Response to Original message |
4. Rezko. That's why. NT |
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joshcryer (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Mar-28-08 04:24 PM Response to Reply #4 |
8. Yep. |
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leftofcool (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Mar-28-08 04:28 PM Response to Reply #4 |
13. Yep |
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Seeker30 (904 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Mar-28-08 04:31 PM Response to Reply #4 |
21. Yep |
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Hawkeye-X (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Mar-28-08 04:44 PM Response to Reply #4 |
31. Nope. |
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MADem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Mar-28-08 05:33 PM Response to Reply #31 |
46. I see plenty of Obama's supporters are tied up with that guy. And he has NOT been charged? |
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Renew Deal (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Mar-28-08 04:23 PM Response to Original message |
6. Judicial Watch is a right wing organization |
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joshcryer (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Mar-28-08 04:24 PM Response to Reply #6 |
9. Uh, are you forgetting the hundreds if not thousands of Obama supporters who linked it? |
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democrattotheend (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Mar-28-08 05:33 PM Response to Reply #9 |
45. Yeah, and you guys yelled at us for it, and said it was not a legit source |
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MADem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Mar-28-08 04:28 PM Response to Reply #6 |
12. And Obama supporters were "with 'em before they were agin' em.." |
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pathansen (696 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Mar-28-08 04:35 PM Response to Reply #6 |
24. Judicial Watch was the SAME organization that forced Hillary to disclose her records first |
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MADem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Mar-28-08 10:45 PM Response to Reply #24 |
71. AND pushed for the ABRAMOFF White House records!! We hate them--except when we LOVE them. |
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dbonds (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Mar-28-08 04:25 PM Response to Original message |
10. When they say his personal notes... |
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leftofcool (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Mar-28-08 04:30 PM Response to Reply #10 |
16. minutes to meetings, conferences, memos, phone calls |
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dbonds (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Mar-28-08 04:32 PM Response to Reply #16 |
23. All those are in the state records. They are looking for other notes. |
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anonymous171 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Mar-28-08 04:43 PM Response to Reply #23 |
30. This whole thing is a Hillary projection. |
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dbonds (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Mar-28-08 04:52 PM Response to Reply #30 |
36. I agree that it is a projection. |
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MADem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Mar-28-08 05:56 PM Response to Reply #23 |
50. Nope. They aren't. There are no state records, apparently, except what each agency holds. |
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Melinda (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Mar-28-08 07:52 PM Response to Reply #50 |
62. Read again; the ISA has Obama's Public Records.. its his personal and constituent records JW wants. |
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MADem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Mar-28-08 10:24 PM Response to Reply #62 |
67. Uh, "constituent records" are letters written to, and on behalf of CONSTITUENTS. And they are |
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SwampG8r (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Mar-30-08 09:48 AM Response to Reply #16 |
80. since |
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Debi (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Mar-28-08 04:25 PM Response to Original message |
11. Tom Fitton, Tom Fitton where have I seen that name before???? |
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leftofcool (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Mar-28-08 04:30 PM Response to Reply #11 |
18. But JW was your friend when they were calling for HIllary's records |
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Debi (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Mar-28-08 04:41 PM Response to Reply #18 |
28. Not mine - I've never linked to JW |
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Mags (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Mar-28-08 04:29 PM Response to Original message |
14. wonder what he is hiding? |
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Debi (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Mar-28-08 04:43 PM Response to Reply #14 |
29. Maybe his grocery list? Or last year's Christmas cards? n/t |
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Mags (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Mar-28-08 04:57 PM Response to Reply #29 |
38. Ohhhhhhhhhh, I kinda of doubt that. |
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anonymous171 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Mar-28-08 04:59 PM Response to Reply #38 |
39. See post #37 |
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Debi (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Mar-28-08 05:05 PM Response to Reply #38 |
41. Well, it can't be the Rose Law Firm billing records |
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SwampG8r (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Mar-30-08 09:50 AM Response to Reply #14 |
81. maybe |
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ElsewheresDaughter (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Mar-28-08 04:30 PM Response to Original message |
17. He's hiding REZKO |
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Hawkeye-X (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Mar-28-08 04:45 PM Response to Reply #17 |
32. Still ignoring the facts, I see.. |
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MADem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Mar-28-08 10:36 PM Response to Reply #32 |
69. There's no THERE there. He's in the same boat as ..... OBAMA. |
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MADem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Mar-28-08 10:25 PM Response to Reply #17 |
68. Yep. NT |
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Warren Stupidity (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Mar-28-08 04:32 PM Response to Original message |
22. I preferred it when you folks were on strike. |
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GarbagemanLB (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Mar-28-08 04:36 PM Response to Original message |
25. When Hillary releases the last 6 years of tax returns, then she'll be able to demand transparency |
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pathansen (696 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Mar-28-08 07:29 PM Response to Reply #25 |
60. Over 20 years of Hillary Clinton’s tax returns have been previously released |
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pathansen (696 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-29-08 11:48 AM Response to Reply #25 |
77. She has already released 20 years of tax returns and 11,000 pages of records |
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cali (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Mar-28-08 04:37 PM Response to Original message |
26. my goodness, look at all the desperate little hillcritters |
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Hawkeye-X (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Mar-28-08 04:46 PM Response to Reply #26 |
33. Grasping at straws, throwing Rezko when they don't realize it's not Obama's problem. |
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Debi (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Mar-28-08 04:47 PM Response to Reply #26 |
34. They're all back from Vaca! n/t |
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tabasco (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Mar-28-08 04:54 PM Response to Reply #26 |
37. Fact Check: Obama's State Senate Records Are Publicly Available |
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northzax (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Mar-28-08 05:11 PM Response to Reply #37 |
42. you might want to fact check that factcheck site |
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Hawkeye-X (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Mar-28-08 08:48 PM Response to Reply #42 |
65. Fine, but what about 2000-2006 |
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northzax (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-29-08 08:32 AM Response to Reply #65 |
72. yes, the question of why the campaign |
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JoFerret (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Mar-28-08 05:26 PM Response to Reply #26 |
44. Obama - the rough beast? |
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appleannie1 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Mar-28-08 04:51 PM Response to Original message |
35. Judicial Watch? Good grief. They are completely rightwing out |
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bowens43 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Mar-28-08 05:13 PM Response to Original message |
43. Is bullshit , mud slinging and swiftboating all you have? |
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OzarkDem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Mar-28-08 05:36 PM Response to Original message |
47. My guess |
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pathansen (696 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Mar-30-08 09:34 AM Response to Reply #47 |
78. But his records all disappeared whereas all of Hillary's records have been released |
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SwampG8r (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Mar-30-08 09:54 AM Response to Reply #78 |
82. your dictionary must be different than mine |
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madrchsod (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Mar-28-08 05:42 PM Response to Original message |
48. well, well .well hillary supporters and juicy watch readers |
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bajamary (427 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Mar-28-08 06:01 PM Response to Reply #48 |
51. do you really have to say f**k? |
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bajamary (427 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Mar-28-08 05:46 PM Response to Original message |
49. Obama was actually missing or "present" for most votes |
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UALRBSofL (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Mar-28-08 06:09 PM Response to Reply #49 |
53. bajamary, I see that |
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bigtree (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Mar-28-08 07:06 PM Response to Original message |
56. aww, is the right-wing group bugging? The Obama camp leveraged their criticisms against Clinton |
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Hoof Hearted (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Mar-28-08 08:56 PM Response to Original message |
66. My oh my. I thought he was transparent! |
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scheming daemons (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-29-08 09:01 AM Response to Original message |
74. Until the Clintons release their tax returns and their library donors list, I can't hear you... |
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ericgtr (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-29-08 09:07 AM Response to Original message |
76. Get back to us when Hillary's released her tax returns and get off the hypocracy |
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