New Michigan Poll: Huh? WTF?????

[Thrill]

MICHIGAN (Gore by 5.2 percentage points)


The Detroit News poll by Mitchell Research, May 11-12, 413 LV, MoE +/-5


(Three-way)


George W. Bush, 44 percent
John Kerry 40 percent
Ralph Nader 2 percent

Undecided, 14 percent


http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&u=/ap/20040517/ap_on_el_pr/presidential_polls_glance&cid=694&ncid=1963&sid=96378798

[fearnobush]

1. This poll has a M of E of 5 pts.

That means it could easily be 5 ahead for Kerry.

[Terry_M]

2. Detroit is

I believe, the city where all the voting problems during their february caucus happened... Some may still be pissed at the state's democratic organization...

[Atman]

3. Oh, puhleeze!

First, its from May 11-12, eons ago in Bush political years. And a sampling of only 413 likely voters? And the MOE is enough that it might actually show Kerry in the lead.

Chill. Someone in Michigan is shilling for BushCo.

[lancdem]

4. Look at how high the undecideds are, and they'll break for Kerry

The key is Bush's share of the vote. If he's polling 44 percent, he ain't winning. That's less than he got last time, right?

BTW, if it makes you feel better, I just checked http://www.dcpoliticalreport.com and Bush's share of the vote is under 45 percent in the most recent Michigan polls, even ones where he's trailing. It's Kerry's numbers that fluctuate, and that's not a surprise.

[foo_bar]

5. Mitchell Research's clients:

We cannot list all of our clients as some prefer confidentially (sic), which we respect. However, we can offer a partial list.

Congressman Cass Ballenger (R-NC)
Congressman Joe Knollenberg (R-MI)
Congressman John Dingell (D-MI)
Congressman Nick Smith (R-MI)
Enron Corporation

http://www.mitchellresearch.net/news.html

[5thGenDemocrat]

6. Simple explanation

The Detroit News is and always has been a right-wing, fascist, Bush boot-licking rag. I don't care if this poll is putatively from Mitchell Research, Snitchell Research or Facedown-Dead-in-the-Ditchell Research. This is just the News surveying the Bloomfield Hills Country Club, the state Amway Distributors' meeting and the Kent Kounty Krackheads for Bush and twisting numbers to try and scare us America-hating LIEberals.
The News was Tony Snow's home before he goose-stepped his way over to Fox. Don't believe anything they tell you regarding politics (they DO have a very good sports section -- aside from that, the News is fish-wrap).
Michigan will go Dem, and go Dem by at least 55-45. I've lived here my whole life and tell you Kerry is doing A-OK here. Too bad that the News is so afraid of that fact that they are, in fact, LYING to you (but Media Weasels wouldn't do that, r-i-i-i-g-h-t?).
John
If the News tells you it's raining, it's best if you stick your head out the door and check for yourself.

[ZCFlint05]

7. pfffffft

Michigan doesn't have a snowball's chance in hell of going Republican, take a wider range of people across the state and you'll find a much wider base of support for Kerry.

[newyawker99]

11. Hi ZCFlint05!!

Welcome to DU!! :toast:

[Awsi Dooger]

8. Did you see the way Judy Woodruff presented that poll on Inside Politics??

Something like, "more evidence the recent troubles in Iraq are hurting President Bush in the polls. He now leads John Kerry by only 4 points in Michigan."

It reminded me of some of the braindead sportsbook supervisors here in Las Vegas, who could easily list the USC football team as a 45 point underdog to Yale if that's what their line service sent out.

That a veteran like Judy Woodruff could report that poll without questioning it, or any reference to recent elections, is absolutely pathetic. But not unbelievable.

[Nicholas_J]

9. Yes I have had a theory that whenever

Bushco sees polls hsowing Kerry with a massive lead in a state, they have a conservative group sponsor a polls, or a pollster who has conservative leanings to do a poll that gives them the results they want to see, in order to try to create a change in public opinion which would indicate a closer race, which is done largly to influence undecided voters, who frequently vote on the candidate who seems most likely to win accoording to public opinion. It is circular, but there is a percentage of the public who can be led by the nose by public opinion.

[snippy]

10. That definitely happens. Both parties do it. n/t

[Nicholas_J]

13. Same thing just happened with Wisconsin

A buhnch of polls come out which show Kerry ahead in Wisconsin, then the Badget Polls does a polls and shows Bush with a double didgit lead in that state where other polls, show Kerry ahead, and even the prior Rasmussen poll showed Kerry with double digit leads. Wisconsin conservatives must badly want Bush to win that state because ONLY the Badger polls has shown Bush in the lead, in opposition to every other poll.

[JNelson6563]

12. Michigander here

Bush won't win this state. Trust me.

Julie