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Flabbergasted Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-27-08 06:56 PM
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Joe Wilson throws Richardson and Kerry under the Bus
Edited on Thu Mar-27-08 09:26 PM by proud patriot
( edited for copyright purposes-proud patriot Moderator Democratic Underground)



I like Wilson, and have tolerated his rants, but I think this one is way over the top. It is hillarious that at first he discusses Wright, and then goes on to claim Obama pushed a "compliant press corps, all too eager to do its bidding..." Which one is it Joe?


By: Joe Wilson

The past week marked the fifth anniversary of the Iraq War and the milestone of the 4,000th American soldier killed in that disastrous adventure. Commemorating and underscoring the urgent need for a new policy direction, Senator Clinton delivered a serious and detailed address clearly setting out her vision for and commitment to ending the conflict. Her approach includes a direct critique of the most glaring failures of the Bush administration: its unwillingness to use political pressure and intense international diplomacy to effect a resolution of the outstanding differences that have driven the region into a proxy war within Iraq with the United States manning and supporting combatants on all sides. For years American generals have been telling the administration, the Congress, and the public that Iraq is not a situation that lends itself to a military solution and will only be resolved politically. While the focus of American opprobrium has been on the Iraqi government for its failure to find those solutions, Senator Clinton, in her speech, is the first presidential candidate to spell out in a precise plan the elements required for an international effort, including co-opting and controlling the enablers of the ongoing violence in Iraq, to promote political reconciliation and reform.

My wife, former CIA agent, Valerie, and I accompanied Senator Clinton to Philadelphia the day after her speech. Valerie pointed out in her comments how, in the run up to the invasion, the administration lied to the Congress and the American people about the nature and the seriousness of the weapons of mass destruction threat posed by Saddam Hussein. The Bush administration's willful twisting of intelligence was crucial to manipulation of the press, the public and the Congress. Not until months later, after the invasion, did the facts of the administration's distortion of intelligence slowly begin to trickle out, partly as a result of my own efforts in a New York Times opinion piece in July 2003.

Understandably, Senator Obama's speech on race relations overshadowed Senator Clinton's policy pronouncements. While laudable in intent, Senator Obama would never have made the speech had his relationship with fiery pastor Jeremiah Wright not become a public relations nightmare for him. Among other things, Wright preaches that the United States government unleashed the HIV virus in Africa to kill blacks. (Having worked in Africa for much of my adult life, including with one of the early AIDS researchers, Dr. Jonathan Mann, I can safely say that there is absolutely no evidence to sustain Wright's reckless charge.) Obama had no choice but to address his 20-year close relationship with a man he still considers, as he made clear in his speech, a mentor.

In the immediate aftermath, the Obama campaign dispatched several foreign policy surrogates to blitz the airwaves, supposedly to offer alternatives to Clinton's recommendations. But that's not what happened. Instead, Hillary was subjected to yet another round of personal abuse, denigration and ridicule rather than a serious debate of the issues. The real subtext of the Obama campaign was to attack Hillary in order to distract from Obama's association with his anti-American preacher. National security went un-addressed. Rather than filling in his largely absent record, Obama had his surrogates engage in what can be termed the mendacity of hype.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/joe-wilson/smears-and-tears-how-oba_b_93525.html
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islandmkl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-27-08 06:58 PM
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1. in other words.....joe picked his horse in the race WAY too early....
you're an OK guy, joe....but your 15 minutes have expired....
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rockymountaindem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-27-08 06:59 PM
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2. With all the people who have supposedly been thrown under the bus, I'm surprised it still runs
Obama's grandmother, Kerry, Richardson, gays, blacks, women... I'm afraid to step outside these days in fear some group I'm a part of might be next!
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enki23 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-27-08 07:00 PM
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3. i don't think "throws under the bus" means...
"says something mildly critical of"

anyway, i disagree with him here. or... "enki throws joe wilson under the bus," i guess.
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MADem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-27-08 07:00 PM
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4. Well, they threw their constituents under the bus. NT
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karynnj Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-27-08 07:08 PM
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8. NO they didn't
They have as much right to pick a candidate as you or I do. There is no rule that they need to wait till their state votes and go with the winner. Here, Wilson took both completely out of context - and he knows better, just to serve HRC. He is a jerk for that and for the idiotic idea that Obama is responsible for the coverage of the Bosnia story.

What did Kerry do MA constituents or Richardson to NM constituents?
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MADem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-27-08 08:28 PM
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15. He disregarded them. John Lewis didn't.
There are plenty of people around here who are pissed off enough to "pick a candidate" other than the incumbents.
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Cali_Democrat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-27-08 07:01 PM
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5. Joe Wilson is irrelevant
Maybe he should be worried about his wifes alleged affair.
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MonkeyFunk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-27-08 07:03 PM
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6. You're still here?
spouting your right-wing nonsense?
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tammywammy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-27-08 07:04 PM
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7. You're an embarrassment
Really, stop posting.
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theredpen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-27-08 08:14 PM
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14. Just when I thought GDP couldn't get any more pathetic...
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MoonRiver Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-27-08 07:09 PM
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9. Good!
It's where they belong.

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DrFunkenstein Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-27-08 07:10 PM
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10. Joe Wilson Threw His Dignity Under The Bus A Long Time Ago
Sure, his wife is mad hot. But he's a loudmouth who can't bear to leave the spotlight.
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mmonk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-27-08 07:12 PM
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11. Joe's favor (debt) has been called in.
Edited on Thu Mar-27-08 07:12 PM by mmonk
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anamandujano Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-27-08 07:17 PM
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12. He simply stated that Obama's surrogates have access to the airwaves
Edited on Thu Mar-27-08 07:17 PM by anamandujano
and could discuss policy but all they do is smear Hillary.

That's what Obama does and that's what Kerry and Richardson do. Needless to say the inspirational leader has inspired his followers to do the same. This forum is filled with their disgusting bile.
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Medusa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-27-08 07:36 PM
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13. Someone needs to tell him his 15 minutes are up
:eyes:
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