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msallied Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-26-08 09:22 PM
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Who would be a better female candidate?
Since Hillary's run is looking to be historic in the "more negative by the day" sense, who do you think would be a worthy female Democratic candidate? One who doesn't carry the messy Clinton legacy? One who wouldn't be an automatic lightning rod? One who possesses the intelligence and tenacity to lead the nation without the whole megalomaniac thing?
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samdogmom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-26-08 09:24 PM
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1. Barbara Boxer--my first choice! n/t
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MadBadger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-26-08 09:24 PM
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2. Barbara Boxer n/t.
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BattyDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-26-08 09:24 PM
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3. First name that came to my mind? Barbara Boxer
:-)
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Quixote1818 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-26-08 09:25 PM
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4. Barbara Boxer has MUCH more integrity and smarts than Hillary!!! Love her! nt
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LWolf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-26-08 09:25 PM
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5. Boxer.
Edited on Wed Mar-26-08 09:28 PM by LWolf
Edited to add:

Richardson would have been a decent latino candidate.

I'd frankly rather have Sharpton or Mosley-Braun as the first African-American president. Even better: Barbara Lee.
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MadBadger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-26-08 09:26 PM
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6. God, I want an Obama/Boxer ticket sooooo bad.
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grmamo Donating Member (304 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-26-08 09:27 PM
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7. Barbara Boxer absolutely..........n/t
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BattyDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-26-08 09:27 PM
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8. 10:24pm ... three simultaneous replies .... all Boxer
Edited on Wed Mar-26-08 09:27 PM by BattyDem
That says a lot about the lady. :patriot:

On edit:

10:25 ... 26 ... 27 ... still Boxer. ;-)
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MadBadger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-26-08 09:27 PM
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9. Not just 10:24, its unanimous.
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BattyDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-26-08 09:28 PM
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10. Yeah, I just noticed that
More replies came in while I typed. Well ... at least DUers agree on something! :bounce:
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patrice Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-26-08 09:30 PM
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11. I'm very interested in Barbara Boxer. nt
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madrchsod Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-26-08 09:30 PM
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12. i know of no one at this time
Edited on Wed Mar-26-08 09:32 PM by madrchsod
i`m sure there are qualified women on the state level that could become a candidate for the president in the future


opps..i really have to read...i`ll agree, boxer would have been better.
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MadBadger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-26-08 09:32 PM
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14. You know of nobody? How bout the woman that every single person had suggested?
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TheWraith Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-26-08 09:32 PM
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13. That's hard to say.
Remember, Obama came out of nowhere: if you'd asked five years ago who was likely to be the first black president, you'd have had no idea. Born leaders are where you find them.

That said, there's a couple candidates. Kathleen Sebelius is pretty good--despite being the governor of Kansas, she's anti-gun, opposes an amendment to ban gay marriage, opposes the death penalty, is pro-education, etcetera.

Barbara Boxer is great, but has a long history in the Senate, which traditionally makes it hard for people to get elected. Too many votes that can be spun negatively, etcetera.

Christine Gregoire of Washington is also a solid exec with good Democratic policy gravitas.
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madrchsod Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-26-08 09:34 PM
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18. i have heard good things about gregoire
it would be nice to hear from her and sebelius at the convention
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msallied Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-26-08 09:35 PM
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19. I live in Washington...
Edited on Wed Mar-26-08 09:36 PM by msallied
Gregoire has been gaining in popularity it seems. I wasn't sure about her initially, but she seems to have done a good job of uniting both Democrats and Republicans. I just wish they would do something about Seattle's HORRID transportation issues.
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msallied Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-26-08 09:33 PM
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15. Well Boxer sure looks popular! lol
I admit to being only vaguely familiar with her, but I know she drilled the hell out of Condoleeza Rice on her Secretary of State confirmation and also didn't want to certify the electoral votes in 2004. She seems like one tough cookie. Has she ever hinted that she'd like to run for President?
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FlyingSquirrel Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-26-08 09:33 PM
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16. Ann Coulter.
Kidding, kidding!

:evilgrin:
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msallied Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-26-08 09:36 PM
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20. I said FEMALE candidate. LOL
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zonmoy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-26-08 09:42 PM
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23. if she hadn't died with her lover.
and considering the current political nature of our country. eva braun.
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msallied Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-26-08 09:44 PM
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27. ooh. Ouch!
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babylonsister Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-26-08 09:33 PM
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17. In 8 years?
:D I just want to get over the primary!
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madrchsod Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-26-08 09:42 PM
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22. come on now.... do`t bum us out.......
:hippie:
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msallied Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-26-08 09:43 PM
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26. Wouldn't it be a kick to Hillary's nuts if
Obama chose a female running mate that wasn't her? lol
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madrchsod Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-26-08 10:03 PM
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31. by the looks of things there are more than a few....
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iamjoy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-26-08 09:36 PM
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21. Kathleen Sebelius
even though she isn't a very inspiring speaker.
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loveangelc Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-26-08 09:43 PM
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24. I think she's high on the VP list for Obama.
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babylonsister Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-26-08 09:46 PM
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28. How about Janet Napolitano, AZ guv? I like her a lot from the
little I've seen. And the big dawg liked her!

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Janet_Napolitano
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madrchsod Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-26-08 10:00 PM
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29. well she looks like a winner for vice president...
a new york born italian methodist who lives in arizona plus all the other credentials...dam she`s impressive
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babylonsister Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-26-08 10:02 PM
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30. She's got it all goin' on!
:D
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Johnny__Motown Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-26-08 10:08 PM
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35. I like her too, and ...
she may not be a very inspiring speaker but she is attractive enough that many of us are not really listening anyways (yes, sexist.. sorry)
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iamjoy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-27-08 06:49 AM
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48. Sexist But True
Maybe I'm not a true feminist if I can acknowledge it, but I did notice Sebelius' looks and think they were perfect for a woman in politics. She's handsome. This is important because if she were cute like Governor Granholm (or overly sexy) she'd could encounter challenges being taken seriously. If she were ugly, men (and some women) would dismiss her and attribute negative mental characteristics based on the physical.

It isn't fair to women that we are judged this way - we have to be as smart and good as a man, but good looking as well if we want success. However, that is the way things are, and it is not going to change anytime soon. So, I don't get mad at men having this view, it's just sad. I at least give credit to men (and women) who acknowledger the bias.
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CK_John Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-26-08 09:43 PM
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25. Melinda Gates. n/t
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cliffordu Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-27-08 03:11 AM
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43. The woman who gave us Microsoft Bob, you mean??
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JI7 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-26-08 10:03 PM
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32. Boxer, Pelosi,
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PADemD Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-26-08 10:05 PM
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33. Barbara Boxer
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meow mix Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-26-08 10:07 PM
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34. Diane Feinstein
i mean Boxer.

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TheWraith Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-27-08 12:41 AM
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36. Oh thank God.
My first question was going to be, WHY? :)
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EFerrari Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-27-08 12:46 AM
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37.  . . .
:spank:
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Warren DeMontague Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-27-08 12:48 AM
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40. That's funny.
You win the "WHAT THE!?!?!!?-- oh, okay" award for this week.
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Warren DeMontague Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-27-08 12:47 AM
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38. Boxer. nt
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EmilyAnne Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-27-08 12:47 AM
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39. Barbara Boxer!
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canadian_is_cold Donating Member (207 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-27-08 01:03 AM
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41. Oprah
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Awsi Dooger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-27-08 03:02 AM
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42. There's no female candidate who even approaches Hillary's stature
Give me a break. Put the other names mentioned in this thread in a national primary and they'd be scrambling to reach 3-5%.

And that's for the foreseeable, if Hillary fails, which appears all but certain.

I'm convinced any female candidate would be butchered by the media, if running for the presidency. I posted that on many sites in 2006. Hillary as unlikable is severely overblown. Put any woman in that threatening position and the white male establishment will recoil in strike-mode horror. It reminds me of David Brock's book, "Blinded By The Right," where he describes how his hit pieces on females were the biggest sellers and biggest hits of American Spectator, with the publisher begging him to find more females he could attack in print.
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Quixote1818 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-27-08 03:29 AM
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45. Don't confuse "stature" with name recognition
There are many more women with 100 times the stature, experience, accomplishments, personality, likability etc. than Hillary.
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joshcryer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-27-08 03:46 AM
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46. Uh, yeah. Stature.
Edited on Thu Mar-27-08 03:47 AM by joshcryer
Do you not know what stature means? In this society name happens to be one thing going for you. Not one name in this thread would invoke any sort of interest.

Obama was an "unknown" in the mass media but the reality is that he has ridden the "Horse Race" that the media has created from the start. They wanted to pit two "historical candidates" up against one another. And they did.
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quakerboy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-27-08 03:27 AM
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44. Not sure, but
I do remember someone saying they liked someone named... oh, what was that, Yoxer, Moxer, er, Its on the tip of my tongue, but I just cant quite remember what that was.
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JoFerret Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-27-08 05:50 AM
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47. He would make a good candidate for female
and he can afford the operation
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