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johan helge (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-26-08 07:26 PM Original message |
Krugman's support of Hillary painful for Obama's supporters |
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NewHampshireDem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-26-08 07:28 PM Response to Original message |
1. OMG, another Democrat has a different opinion than I do ... ARGH! OW! OW! |
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mrreowwr_kittty (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-26-08 07:29 PM Response to Original message |
2. Obama supporters' disdain for NAFTA loving hack Krugman upsets some DUers. |
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lumberjack_jeff (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-26-08 07:34 PM Response to Reply #2 |
7. No, your distain for Democrats upsets some DU'ers. n/t |
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papau (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-26-08 07:35 PM Response to Reply #2 |
8. Obama's distain for ending NAFTA (speaking to Can) dismays some DUers |
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AX10 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-26-08 07:30 PM Response to Original message |
3. Yes it is. I don't agree with HRC and Krugman 100% of the time. |
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Tellurian (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Mar-28-08 06:37 AM Response to Reply #3 |
72. Yes, and the content of the OP |
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SunsetDreams (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-26-08 07:32 PM Response to Original message |
4. as an Obama supporter, I don't |
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FrenchieCat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-26-08 07:33 PM Response to Original message |
5. Personally, I don't give a shit. |
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Adelante (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-26-08 07:57 PM Response to Reply #5 |
17. Me neither |
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lumberjack_jeff (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-26-08 07:34 PM Response to Original message |
6. This is the primary reason that I'm for Hillary. |
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enid602 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-26-08 07:38 PM Response to Reply #6 |
11. health care now |
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LisaM (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-26-08 07:38 PM Response to Reply #6 |
12. Well, and we'll pay for those who don't participate |
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mrreowwr_kittty (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-26-08 07:55 PM Response to Reply #12 |
15. Who will pay for those young, healthy people? |
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LisaM (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-26-08 07:57 PM Original message |
Of COURSE the solution is single payer. The voters know it, even if the candidates don't. |
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mrreowwr_kittty (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-26-08 08:10 PM Response to Original message |
25. No! It's not "universal participation". It's a (mostly) unfunded mandate. |
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LisaM (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-26-08 08:18 PM Response to Reply #25 |
28. Social Security is a mandate too. |
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mrreowwr_kittty (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-26-08 08:27 PM Response to Reply #28 |
32. SS is also an entitlement. As is Medicare. |
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CTLawGuy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Mar-28-08 06:39 AM Response to Reply #28 |
73. its not a private market system |
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shimmergal (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-27-08 01:57 AM Response to Reply #25 |
54. I think we'll have to get the |
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earthlover (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-26-08 08:10 PM Response to Reply #12 |
26. She voted FOR No Child Left Behind.... |
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LisaM (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-26-08 08:20 PM Response to Reply #26 |
30. Oh they all voted for that piece of crap. Don't get me started! |
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earthlover (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-27-08 05:53 AM Response to Reply #30 |
57. Sorta like Iraq and NAFTA....first for, then against |
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Kurovski (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-27-08 04:30 AM Response to Reply #26 |
56. No Child Left Behind was supposed to be very different from what it is. |
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mrreowwr_kittty (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-26-08 07:45 PM Response to Reply #6 |
14. The solution is single payer |
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johan helge (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-26-08 07:57 PM Response to Reply #14 |
16. But Obama is not for single payer, is he? |
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mrreowwr_kittty (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-26-08 08:21 PM Response to Reply #16 |
31. No he's not and I wish he were. |
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lumberjack_jeff (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-26-08 10:01 PM Response to Reply #14 |
34. A regressive tax on young single people to subsidize the care of their parents... |
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mrreowwr_kittty (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-26-08 11:27 PM Response to Reply #34 |
38. Hillary's plan will not lead to single payer. |
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joshcryer (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-26-08 11:38 PM Response to Reply #38 |
42. That is an outright lie, Hillary's plan forces people into the state (Senate) insurer. |
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mrreowwr_kittty (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-27-08 12:11 AM Response to Reply #42 |
50. What the hell is the "Senate Insurer"? |
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lumberjack_jeff (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-26-08 11:53 PM Response to Reply #38 |
48. You're using a definition of "unfunded" that I'm unfamiliar with. |
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mrreowwr_kittty (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-27-08 01:05 AM Response to Reply #48 |
53. Tax breaks will offset the premiums for *which* lower income people? |
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featherman (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-26-08 08:02 PM Response to Reply #6 |
19. That somebody as damaged and with as little political capital |
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johan helge (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-26-08 08:06 PM Response to Reply #19 |
21. Obama is not for single payer. |
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lumberjack_jeff (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-26-08 10:12 PM Response to Reply #19 |
37. It requires an energetic articulate and charismatic leader... |
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earthlover (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-26-08 08:07 PM Response to Reply #6 |
23. In my view, the mandatory part of Hillary's plan would never stand a chance of passing thru congress |
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johan helge (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-26-08 08:14 PM Response to Reply #23 |
27. Krugman about Congress |
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johan helge (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-26-08 08:19 PM Response to Reply #23 |
29. Contrary to Obama, Hillary has specified that health insurance should |
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lumberjack_jeff (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-26-08 10:09 PM Response to Reply #23 |
36. The compromise solution is medicare for those who don't buy private insurance |
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mrreowwr_kittty (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-26-08 11:32 PM Response to Reply #36 |
41. And you think the insurance industry is going to let this happen? |
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lumberjack_jeff (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-26-08 11:49 PM Response to Reply #41 |
46. So you think big insurance companies are going to allow single payer? I'm naive? |
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mrreowwr_kittty (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-27-08 12:00 AM Response to Reply #46 |
49. Not claiming there's a magic wand. |
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earthlover (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-27-08 05:55 AM Response to Reply #36 |
58. Would Hillary support this? |
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lumberjack_jeff (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-27-08 09:18 AM Response to Reply #58 |
60. There is little doubt in my mind that she'd sign a bill which had the following features |
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earthlover (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-27-08 07:40 PM Response to Reply #60 |
61. Yes, univeral private insurance is problematic....that is Hillary's program! |
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lumberjack_jeff (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-27-08 08:22 PM Response to Reply #61 |
62. If it's not universal, it does nothing. |
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earthlover (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-27-08 09:05 PM Response to Reply #62 |
63. Congress will never mandate that those who cannot afford health insurance will be sent to jail or |
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lumberjack_jeff (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-27-08 09:12 PM Response to Reply #63 |
66. So do you know anyone who's in jail for refusing to participate in Social Security? |
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earthlover (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-27-08 09:41 PM Response to Reply #66 |
68. Apples to oranges....or, maybe apples to gorillas.... |
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lumberjack_jeff (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-27-08 10:00 PM Response to Reply #68 |
69. Everyone who is 22 knows that they'll live forever and never need med ins. |
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earthlover (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Mar-28-08 06:12 AM Response to Reply #69 |
71. It's more than 22 year olds who don't have health insurance....many can't afford it |
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mrreowwr_kittty (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-26-08 11:29 PM Response to Reply #23 |
39. I think the mandatory part would pass Congress. |
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earthlover (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-27-08 09:08 PM Response to Reply #39 |
65. right....better invest in health insurance stock if hillary wins..... |
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dorktv (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-26-08 11:41 PM Response to Reply #6 |
44. After I reviewed the health care plans I really could not see Senator Obama's plan |
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tabasco (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-26-08 07:35 PM Response to Original message |
9. I love Paul Krugman! |
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mucifer (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-26-08 07:37 PM Response to Reply #9 |
10. Agreed. And guess what Krugman has stated that both are better than |
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myrna minx (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-26-08 07:39 PM Response to Reply #9 |
13. That's how I feel, as well. n/t |
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Cassandra (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-26-08 08:01 PM Response to Original message |
18. Actually, Krugman was an Edwards supporter. |
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johan helge (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-26-08 08:03 PM Response to Reply #18 |
20. Hillary's health care plan is very similar to Edwards' plan |
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Cassandra (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-26-08 08:07 PM Response to Reply #20 |
22. Both of them leave the insurance companies in... |
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johan helge (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-26-08 08:09 PM Response to Reply #22 |
24. Hillary's plan is the only possible way of getting them out |
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mrreowwr_kittty (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-26-08 11:49 PM Response to Reply #24 |
47. No it doesn't! |
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maximusveritas (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-26-08 11:29 PM Response to Reply #18 |
40. Agreed, he's never really liked Hillary |
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Catherina (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-26-08 08:28 PM Response to Original message |
33. There's nothing painful about it. |
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economico (3 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-26-08 10:05 PM Response to Original message |
35. You will not see super-biased Dowd and Rich ever agree with Clinton in anything |
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Crunchy Frog (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-26-08 11:40 PM Response to Original message |
43. Not for this Obama supporter. |
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MadBadger (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-26-08 11:43 PM Response to Original message |
45. Not as painful as KO's Criticisms of Hillary is for her supporters. |
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McCamy Taylor (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-27-08 12:26 AM Response to Reply #45 |
51. Nobody here believes this, but KO could be setting himself up for a fall. |
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MadBadger (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-27-08 12:29 AM Response to Reply #51 |
52. Personally I think you are Wrong |
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eridani (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-27-08 02:54 AM Response to Original message |
55. Being forced to subsidize insurance companies? |
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bread_and_roses (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-27-08 07:13 AM Response to Original message |
59. I admire Krugman. I think he's wrong on this. And Obama's plan is lousy too... |
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OzarkDem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-27-08 09:07 PM Response to Original message |
64. Very true |
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neverforget (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-27-08 09:22 PM Response to Original message |
67. I'm an Obama supporter AND a Krugman reader! Are the 2 mutually |
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hulka38 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-27-08 10:06 PM Response to Original message |
70. Your avatar supports Obama for Pete's sake. |
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JoFerret (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Mar-28-08 09:41 PM Response to Original message |
74. Once again - Clinton takes the bold courageous |
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