How would you characterize referring to Hillary Clinton as "Hitlery"?

[The Doctor.]

It's been suggested that namecalling is indicative of 'hatred', so I'd just like to ask how many people agree.

Please do not respond to the poll without including some explanation, no matter how brief. I'd like this poll to be validated.


Thanks!

[mrreowwr_kittty]

1. Hateful and stupid. Is an explanation really necessary? nt

[NastyRiffraff]

8. Bingo

I voted Hateful, but it's also stupid. No explanation necessary. If you need one, you are not a liberal.

[Jackpine Radical]

10. I go for both as well, although I finally voted for Stupid.

"Feminazi," "Hitlery," the "Halfrican," I hate it that I even know those Limbaugh terms, and I would not use them in any context that suggests I endorse them.

[izzybeans]

15. That is true.

[hell-bent]

16. It's about as stupid and ignorant

as referring to Obama as "Osama".

[emilyg]

34. Yep.

[redqueen]

29. What you said.

I voted for "hateful" though.

[onenote]

59. Agreed.

[LisaM]

2. It's hateful. As far as I know, Limbaugh is the source.

It couples nicely with his other choice term, Feminazi. I believe that Limbaugh hates women, or at least hates strong women who care vigorously about women's rights.

[skater314159]

14. Yeah, it sounds like Limbaugh...

... his hatred for women + his projecting his own ideals (Fascism) onto others = stupid crap.

[JeffR]

3. It may or not be indicative of "hatred"

but it's stupid. I say this as someone who really can't wait until we've seen the last of candidate Clinton.

[Maddy McCall]

4. Other: Unimaginative, because it came straight from Free Republic.

Unimaginative---having to use others' slurs.

Telling---because it's from right-wing playbooks.

[The Doctor.]

21. Good answer for 'other'. Thanks!

[babylonsister]

5. Hateful and unnecessary-that goes for all name calling. nt

[Deep13]

6. Do you really need an explanation why equating a D. candidate...

...with the most notorious mass-murderer of history might be seen as hateful?

[The Doctor.]

41. Not all is as it seems.

The clue is in "No matter how brief".

:hi:

[JVS]

7. Slavishly obedient to Godwin's law

[skater314159]

9. It's dorky and sounds stupid.

It just makes me stop listening/reading whatever/whoever said it.

I'm for Obama, but I'm not in the third grade! Geeez. :eyes:

[H2O Man]

11. Other.

It is a combination of hatred and ignorance. And as Voltaire said, ignorance is the mother of all cruelty.

I think this is the same for the "Barack Osama" question.

[RichardRay]

12. Comparing ANYONE in US politics to Hitler is stupid

including McCain or Bush.

Stalin, maybe...

[The Doctor.]

26. What?!?!? You're an Obama supporter and you don't think she's Hitler!?

Just kidding.

This is part of my quest to prove that people aren't all as 'hateful' or 'irrational' as some are claiming.

Thanks for helping.

[enid602]

43. Mugabe

I think Bush can better be seen as an American version of Robert Mugabe. They both have that Midas touch.

[Alexander]

13. It's as stupid as saying Obama is the Anti-Christ.

[Tribetime]

17. ignorant, stupid

[TahitiNut]

18. Other: "I see Paris! I see France! I see someone's underpants!"

Some folks just never grow beyond that grade school playground. :shrug:

[The Doctor.]

32. I see I can't fool you.

[Mooney]

19. I voted "Some combination."

I'm no HRC fan, but freeper types who I've discussed her with are the ones who call her "Hitlery" and they compare her to Stalin and Mao and some of the other all-time mass murderers throughout history, which is beyond ludicrous. So I can't chalk it up to just ignorance, or just stupidity, or just sexism, but a combination of all three with a complete willfull ignorance of history and a kind of infantile psychosis.

[zulchzulu]

20. It is beyond appropriate to refer Hillary Clinton or 99.99% of people to Hitler

Hitler, Pol Pot and many others are in a hellish class of their own.

[democrattotheend]

22. Absolutely disgusting

I would have a fit if I ever saw anyone on this forum call her that. I have seen freepers use the term and it is sickening.

[Nitrogenica]

23. Hateful and more importantly childish.

I have had it with grown adults, especially those on the right, acting like 8 year old schoolyard bullies.

It is an insult to the collective intelligence of our nation when we debate "Kerry said he was for it before he said he was against it."

It repulses and disgusts me.

[Sparkly]

24. Hateful.

I just answered the same in the Obama "Osama" poll before seeing this one.

Osama bin Laden and Adolph Hitler hate, hated, and are hated. I think it's hateful to liken any American to them...

(Well, except certain Republicans, but I know even that may be going too far, especially as concerns Hitler.)

[SeattleGirl]

25. Hateful.

'nuff said.

[realisticphish]

27. IMHO, any name alteration is stupid

yes, even the multitudes of nicknames for Bush. I just don't see the point, especially when it involves more syllables than the original. I.E., "Shrub," "*," etc. is fine to me. "Chimpy McCokespoon von Flightsuittortureovski" is too much.

[myrna minx]

28. Hateful, stupid, disgusting...I could go on.

Just as hateful as calling Obama "Osama" or the anti-christ.

[Tresalisa]

30. Other.

My explanation is that I think it is stupid to compare anyone, Hillary or even Bushie, to Hitler, and that those who use that comparison are similar to those who fill their posts on anonymous internet blogs and forums with unnecessary profanity - they don't have anything really meaningful to say.

And, if you don't like my reasoning, then go FUCK yourself you fucking motherfuckers... (oops)

:hi:

[The Doctor.]

35. Fuck you too.

Thanks!

:hi:

[tishaLA]

31. Hateful AND Repugnant.

And that's not strong enough.

[CBGLuthier]

33. Stupid

She isn;t my favorite human being but Hitler?

Now, if we called her Lucrezia, that would be a different matter but that doesn't make a neat little pun.

[musicblind]

36. I picked "some combination" because in my opinion

it is both hateful AND stupid.

[Barack_America]

37. Downright awful and inexcusable. n/t

[Breeze54]

38. Ridiculous attack and I didn't vote for her.

I don't agree with her policy stands on some issue's

but that shit irritates me to no end. It's hateful speech, imho.

[Levgreee]

39. mostly just stupid. for most, I THINK it is not meant as a serious analogy. It is in jest,because

1. Hitler, in our current pop culture, looked at as funny as often as he is looked as taboo. If we were on a message board that was predominantly German, this would obviously not be the case

2. The name is used largely just on the merit of how it sounds, how the name Hillary melds into it.

It's not meant to really say Hillary is evil.



I would likewise, not consider it hateful for people to call Obama O"stalin"a, or Bar"hitler"ack. Although, obviously, it doesn't really fit.


Evidence that Hitler can be funny

[Guava Jelly]

40. I think it is offensive to our German friends

Who had no part in the crimes of Adolph Hitler.
Besides it just sounds petty and hateful.
We need to stop emulating the right by creating our own Limbaughspeak.
Besides weather you like her or not she should get at least the respect of being called her actual name.

[Chisox08]

42. It's just plain stupid

Calling Hillary "Hitlery" is nothing more than more right wing knuckle dragging termonology. Even calling bush Hitler is wrong. Even though Bush is more like Musolini a complete fascist. Now Dick Cheney on the other hand have at it.

[stillcool]

44. stupid.

silly. childish. A play on her name but it carries no insidious meaning to me.

[Xithras]

45. I dislike Hillary, but it's stupid and offensive.

Hillary may be a neoliberal DLC shill, but comparing her to Hitler is so over the top stupid that it's not even funny.

[GarbagemanLB]

46. As much as I despise the woman, even that is too far.

[LostinVA]

47. Bannable Offense

[MoonRiver]

48. Hateful.

And I wouldn't think that needs an explanation. I also voted "hateful" for Obama being referred to as Osama in your other poll. Both are hateful. Nuff said.

[bridgit]

49. The childish aggregate of an effete mind void of mature, or 3-D properties

But I do favor Godzillary & Odbamatron :bounce:

[Melinda]

50. Combination of childish, unreasonable, irrational, hateful, and just plain stupid.

And again, as I explained on your other related poll, I also believe that said language is primarily the work of trolls and disruptors, and not the work of progressive liberals or other long-time DUers.

[backscatter712]

51. Stupid - the discussion is instantly Godwined.

Nice thing about a pre-Godwined discussion is that I don't have to worry about losing face because I was the one to godwin it.

[TygrBright]

52. Childish. n/t

[Lilith Velkor]

53. FAIL

[The Doctor.]

57. Not a poll choice, but it works for 'other'.

Love the username too.

:hi:

[MrSlayer]

54. Freeperish. A combo of both stupid and childish.

Hillary is no Hitler.

[stop the bleeding]

55. Other - it is Stupid Hateful

:beer:

[tammywammy]

56. Childish, immature, stupid, hateful

[XtraProudDem]

58. Hateful.

I don't have to explain.

It just is.

[comrade snarky]

60. Lest see...

Ran a dirty campaign vs Attempted genocide

Nope I can still tell the difference. I don't like her or her win at any cost style but this has got to be one of the dumbest links ever made. The comparison cheapens the argument.
I suppose I have a different opinion of Nazi references since I heard an Auschwitz survivor speak and looked into her eyes while we talked later.

Not even Dick Cheney has made it that level of evil yet.

[crankychatter]

61. that's a republican thing

I can't even stand hearing her name, and I wouldn't do that

leave that kind of language to the freepers... that's where it originates

[Bluenorthwest]

62. I voted hateful

But what I wanted to vote is that it is actually that most vulgar of all forms of speech, a Republicanism, and as such is a rank mixture of contempt and stupidity in a class by itself. Like similar slams of Obama based on his name, it is the lexicon of the enemy.

[New Dawn]

63. Well, Hitler was responsible for the deaths of about 30 million people.

When you consider the Holocaust and the deaths from his illegal wars of aggression against Poland, USSR, etc.

Clinton, with her vote for the illegal Iraq War, is only responsible for about 1 million deaths. Her husband, Bill, is responsible for another 1 million deaths too (the Iraq sanctions killed about that many).

So it is true that she is not as evil as Hitler. But she is still evil. So are Bush, Cheney, McCain, Lieberman, etc.

[democrattotheend]

76. That's a disgusting comment

To compare anyone to Hitler is distasteful, and to compare Clinton to him just for voting for a war that would have passed without her support is outrageous. It trivializes how brutal and evil Hitler was. Are you saying all of the Senate Democrats who voted for the resolution should be equated with Hitler or deemed "evil"? Is Tom Harkin evil? Is John Kerry evil? Do they warrant comparisons to Hitler?

[New Dawn]

77. I never said that Hillary = Hitler.

That is why I explained that the Clintons, combined, are only responsible for about two million dead and not 30 million like Hitler.

However, she (and Bill) are definitely responsible for the deaths of around two million Iraqis. And yes, I think that qualifies them as being "evil." Just take a look at some of the pictures of the Iraqi civilians that been brutally murdered by the US occupation in torture camps. Or read about the little girls who have been raped and murdered in the most horrible ways by the occupation forces. Any millionaire politician like Hillary who voted to authorize that damned illegal war is evil in my book.

I think that if we do not reject those monsters, then we are no better than them.

[kid a]

64. hateful and irresponsible nt

[JerseygirlCT]

65. Stupid, hateful and childish. nt

[NC_Nurse]

66. I picked stupid. Nobody is won over by mean name calling. Plus, she may not

be my candidate, but she's not evil - Hitler was evil. Big difference. She's a good candidate that
has run a poor campaign, IMO. She doesn't deserve villification for that.

A few of the things she's said have pissed me off, but I'm not going to start calling her names. It's just
silly.

[Catherine Vincent]

67. Freepish.

Since that is whence it came from.

[usyankee]

68. Hitlary?

I WOULD call her HiLIARY tho

[Catherine Vincent]

74. Sure you would.

:eyes:

[JustABozoOnThisBus]

69. It's Rethug: Hitlery, Osama Hussein, Billary

But hell, I don't even like "McLame". The candidates deserve some respect, and it will be a battle to defeat McCain in November. No point in playing silly name games.

"Tweety" or "Little Boots", on the other hand, hell yes!!!
:rofl:

(edited to spell McCain - watching too much Die Hard, I guess)

[Lisa0825]

70. Hateful, stupid, irrational, and ignorant.

No need for further comment.

[CitizenLeft]

71. "Other" - Over the Top

...and I don't hate Hillary. But I am really, seriously, deeply disappointed in her and Bill Clinton. I have been intensely loyal to them all these years, and... you talk about betrayal? I feel they've betrayed their own vision, legacy, and reputation by taking the whatever-works-no-matter-how-ugly "Kitchen Sink" road that leads exactly to the place they are right now.

[Starbucks Anarchist]

72. Jaw-droppingly stupid.

[Mz Pip]

73. what's to explain?

It's Freeper talk.

[The Doctor.]

78. Like most experiments, most requests have an ulterior motive...

In this one I wanted to know who was answering to get a better demographic. That way there'd be a better chance of knowing if one group or another was trying to dishonestly swing the poll.

Even a "." response would have been fine.

[theredpen]

75. Hateful: I need to explain? 2nd choice: stupid