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RiverStone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-26-08 10:03 AM
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Who is the referee here?
Harry Reid, Howard Dean, the Super Delegates, Al Gore, the voters, the corporate M$M?

The rethugs are taking delight in the fact we Dems are taking this trench war into overtime, and every day we sink further into the morass.

Somebody or somebodies need to take the proverbial bull by the horns and show some leadership to end it!

Who is best suited or most capable to stop this fight? :shrug:




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LakeSamish706 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-26-08 10:11 AM
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1. It really should be Howard Dean as I see it... He is the head of the DNC...
He needs to convene the Super-delegates and come to a conclusion and very soon. This thing can not fester much longer IMO.
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Mooney Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-26-08 10:12 AM
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2. There isn't anybody.
We have to do it ourselves. The Democrats are clearly too fucking spineless to take care of this, so we have to pester the remaining superdelegates, volunteer in the states that still remain in the primaries, and work for our chosen candidate until a tipping point is reached.

This goes for supporters of both candidates. It's clear that the Democratic party leadership is AWOL on this, as they have been for the last few years now, so it's up to us to basically threaten to vote them out if they don't do their job, or to volunteer and work overtime for the campaign of one's choice so that you can help define a clear favorite.

We have to do this ourselves.
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RiverStone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-26-08 10:23 AM
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3. That is the same conclusion I'm coming to..
And the biggest concern I have is apathy - people are just gonna start to walk away.

The good news is Obama is poised to ride the wave - but we need to start focusing on the GE before battle fatigue sets in.
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Andy823 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-26-08 10:29 AM
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4. McCain is getting a free ride
Nothing seems to stick to him, not the thing with the female lobbyist, not the screw ups he made in Iraq during several interviews, not his total lack of knowledge about the economy, nothing!

We should be going after him now, not fighting between the two candidates. I hope that Obama can get the topic back on the real issues, like the economy, the war, rising gas prices, corruption in D.C., etc. These are things that need to be talked about, and discussed. McCain needs to be grilled on these issues, and it needs to start now. If things don't change there will be some serious problems after we do finally get a nominee at the convention, and we don't need more problems!
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cboy4 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-26-08 10:59 AM
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7. Oh my Lord, I agree with Mooney about something?
:wow:

Yea. I agree the Democrats are "clearly too fucking spineless..."

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Mooney Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-26-08 11:13 AM
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8. Our party has utterly failed to represent us.
This election has become a referendum on how we want to wrest control away from the useless. I believe that HRC supporters are in her corner in part because she projects a toughness that suggests that she's not going to concede whole agendas to the Republicans. Obama supporters are attracted to him because he represents a different way of doing things, too. The methods may be different, but in both cases it's the same frustration that's driving it.

We may not agree on our candidate, but I see in both camps an overwhelming desire to break away dramatically from the way things have been going for the last seven years.
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kentuck Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-26-08 10:39 AM
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5. We are the referee.
We just don't realize our responsibility. We think we are only anonymous posters on a political discussion board.
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crankychatter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-26-08 10:54 AM
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6. It's going to Carolina and Indiana - 6 more weeks
I need xanax
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BigDaddy44 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-26-08 11:16 AM
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9. Our ex-presidents
And distinguished Senior members of our party. Presidents Carter and Clinton (oh, whoops.....wait......... that doesn't work)
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